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HappyHippo posted:There's no way to know if it's a hack or not. It's certainly the cover story they would use if they accidentally published the real numbers. I would also expect a real hacker would do something with more... flair than this. The numbers weren't there in the original version of the article and were added some time later in the day. What is most likely is that there was an employee with access to their CMS who added the numbers, and nobody noticed until today.
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SourKraut posted:While I'd love for that first photo to be true, I'm a little skeptical that it's a photo during the current crisis. One of the signs says "мрія не горить" - "the dream does not burn", a clear reference to the destroyed giant plane Mria/Dream Kyiv is a giant city with Russian forces fighting in its northern suburbs only and the missile strikes are not as frequent as in the first days. It is entirely possible for parts of it to work as usual.
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On the BBC World Service, there was talk of people getting a haircut in Kiev and supermarkets receiving fresh supply.
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Charliegrs posted:I mean this is probably true, but there's kind of no way to tell when and where these pictures were taken. I dont rate Nolan Peterson particularly highly on the credibility scale but he is actually there and theres no particular reason to doubt this. Theres a large enough media presence in Kyiv that if it was suffering general food shortages we'd have head about it.
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Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 21quote:March 21, 5:30pm ET So Russia continues to burn resources doing nothing.
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Deteriorata posted:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 21 I don't think they have a choice at this point. Pulling back troops would cause an immediate crisis.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I don't think they have a choice at this point. Pulling back troops would cause an immediate crisis. We just need to clog their guns with our wreckage and bodies. Zapp Brannigan is always right!
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Kaal posted:If Putin isn't able to get Belarus to attack Ukraine and shut down the supply routes, then those Wagner guys are in for a tough time. Er, even if they attack, Belarus is absolutely not capable of shutting down the supply routes. To do that, they'd have to advance 400km, of which the first 100km is through the Pripet marsh, on a front where there are only 3 usable north-south roads. Against an enemy that has at least 5 times the force of the entire Belarusian army in the area.
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William Bear posted:Russia has its worst demographics of all time for absorbing mass death of young men. Sources I see online seem to show the average median age of a Russian was 34 in 1990. It's over 40 now. Russia has 15.9 million men aged 18-35. Their war losses would need to hit 500,000 deaths before it started making a demographic dent. Demographics are the least of Russia's war concerns.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I don't think they have a choice at this point. Pulling back troops would cause an immediate crisis. Pulling back now as much as I would love to see it would be enormously embarrassing but if they did... How does Russia even get back into the world economy?
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How Ukraine won the war: https://twitter.com/IMatviyishyn/status/1505896506691399682?s=20&t=sCvxGH37t41N6neZi3_d2w
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I don't think they have a choice at this point. Pulling back troops would cause an immediate crisis. They may not have a choice, but I think it’s within possibility that they’re unable to pull their troops back out. Their fuel shortages are so bad, logistics so hosed/harassed, etc that they literally cannot move anyone out that’s already there.
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Pulling back now as much as I would love to see it would be enormously embarrassing but if they did... How does Russia even get back into the world economy? I think sanctions would be lifted pretty soon after a full withdrawal and a peace treaty went into force with neutral peacekeeping forces on the ground in Ukraine. Tuna-Fish posted:Er, even if they attack, Belarus is absolutely not capable of shutting down the supply routes. To do that, they'd have to advance 400km, of which the first 100km is through the Pripet marsh, on a front where there are only 3 usable north-south roads. Against an enemy that has at least 5 times the force of the entire Belarusian army in the area. I think the Belarus stuff is just threats to keep Ukraine from moving forces from those areas to the fighting in the south and east. It’s probably a good opportunity for Ukraine to teach new recruits how to prepare field defences though because I can’t imagine they haven’t been preparing for a possible invasion by Belarus and I suspect possible invasion routes have been strongly fortified.
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Icon Of Sin posted:They may not have a choice, but I think it’s within possibility that they’re unable to pull their troops back out. Their fuel shortages are so bad, logistics so hosed/harassed, etc that they literally cannot move anyone out that’s already there. The problem I see as well is that these soldiers were already robbing Belarus before The Invasion even happened. So they're going to do it way worse when they're actually truly starving to death. So once again the average Belarusian gets screwed
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Shes Not Impressed posted:How Ukraine won the war: Can someone who speaks the language give some context on the notes, and maybe explain on why there's a swastika in the middle of that red star?
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Blut posted:Russia has 15.9 million men aged 18-35. Their war losses would need to hit 500,000 deaths before it started making a demographic dent. Demographics are the least of Russia's war concerns. Total demographic numbers of military age men inform the upper limits of a country's capacity to acquire soldiers. They have way less than 15 million men who are in any reasonable capacity to serve and even less who are compelled to and already trained to do so.
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PharmerBoy posted:Can someone who speaks the language give some context on the notes, and maybe explain on why there's a swastika in the middle of that red star? It says: Nazis = Russhists
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PharmerBoy posted:Can someone who speaks the language give some context on the notes, and maybe explain on why there's a swastika in the middle of that red star? Click the tweet, the OP immediately replies to clarify the paper is calling the Russians nazis.
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They aren't pulling back because they don't want to pull back. No need to make their situation seem outright catastrophic, like the Russian army is in a state of post apocalyptic chaos. They are moving plenty of material, artillery can't operate on thin air, and daily briefings talk about regular strategic movements from the rear to the frontlines.
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Pulling back now as much as I would love to see it would be enormously embarrassing but if they did... How does Russia even get back into the world economy? I think that with any country that has been shunned from the world economy the only way they get back in is simply time. Time for the collective memories of people to forget about whatever atrocities were committed. And time enough for corporations to be able to do business with whatever horrible regime without the PR hit. Because capital doesn't give a flying gently caress about human suffering. All the companies that pulled out of Russia didn't do it to show any kind of solidarity with the Ukrainian people, they did it to prevent horrible PR that could hurt their sales in stable countries. They'll be back in Russia the second they can get away with it.
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PharmerBoy posted:Can someone who speaks the language give some context on the notes, and maybe explain on why there's a swastika in the middle of that red star? It is saying that Nazis=Ruscists, the rest of the text is "Soldier! The Moskal has come to take your land, enslave your family and kill you! Kill the Moskal!" The little signs are softer, like "we are with you" and "may the cigs keep you warm"
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fatherboxx posted:One of the signs says "мрія не горить" - "the dream does not burn", a clear reference to the destroyed giant plane Mria/Dream a giant plane being a Ukrainian national hero is definitely one of the weirder aspects of a conflict filled with weird aspects.
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PharmerBoy posted:Can someone who speaks the language give some context on the notes, and maybe explain on why there's a swastika in the middle of that red star? lovely machine translation but "Nazi is Russian" GOD!! The Muscovite game KILL YOU SEIZE YOURS LAND TO DO slaves to your family KILL the muscovite!" which sounds like "The russians are coming to kill you, seize your land, and make slaves of your family. Kill them."
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Staluigi posted:Total demographic numbers of military age men inform the upper limits of a country's capacity to acquire soldiers. They have way less than 15 million men who are in any reasonable capacity to serve and even less who are compelled to and already trained to do so. Yes, running out of able/trained soldiers is likely going to be a very real issue for Russia if current casualty rates continue for 3-6 months. But that wasn't the point the post that I quoted made. A demographic crisis based on war deaths, like the post I quoted suggested was going to be an issue, just is statistically not going to be an issue. The current weekly losses would have to increase by about 1000% for it to become likely.
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For some context, I was taught by friends in Zakarpattya that Mosckali are not Russians but people like Putin. I tended to use it to describe the Russian tourists that came to the sanatoriis and acted like poo poo bags on the train also. You know, insult lingual drift.
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Zephro posted:A couple of stories in the Times and Telegraph have said that Starlink is indeed how. And that's when Elon launches the nuclear satellite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQij3RZpzNc&t=38s
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gay picnic defence posted:I think sanctions would be lifted pretty soon after a full withdrawal and a peace treaty went into force with neutral peacekeeping forces on the ground in Ukraine. Charliegrs posted:I think that with any country that has been shunned from the world economy the only way they get back in is simply time. Time for the collective memories of people to forget about whatever atrocities were committed. And time enough for corporations to be able to do business with whatever horrible regime without the PR hit. Because capital doesn't give a flying gently caress about human suffering. All the companies that pulled out of Russia didn't do it to show any kind of solidarity with the Ukrainian people, they did it to prevent horrible PR that could hurt their sales in stable countries. They'll be back in Russia the second they can get away with it. I can't imagine the world simply letting Russia back in after they've destroyed part of the global economy, displaced millions and killed tens of thousands but I do agree that they won't remained isolated forever.
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Random Integer posted:I dont rate Nolan Peterson particularly highly on the credibility scale but he is actually there and theres no particular reason to doubt this. Theres a large enough media presence in Kyiv that if it was suffering general food shortages we'd have head about it. There's a bunch of TikTok footage from markets (Edith of well stocked shelves) and such in Kyiv as well. Of course it could all be a psyop but there's enough of it, I tend to think not. ummel fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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Deteriorata posted:Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 21 So Russia's huge achievement will be to Grozny/ Stalingrad at Mariupol and possibly lose Kherson in a counter-offensive, while they become a FAAAAAARRRRTTTT of a presence everywhere else in Ukraine? And all that for the low price of the isolation and destruction of their economy and the utter humilation of their shambling Wish.com military My, what an amazing 4d chessmaster 
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Blut posted:Russia has 15.9 million men aged 18-35. Their war losses would need to hit 500,000 deaths before it started making a demographic dent. Demographics are the least of Russia's war concerns. Vova reads this post and says "hold my vodka, grazhdanin."
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TulliusCicero posted:So Russia's huge achievement will be to Grozny/ Stalingrad at Mariupol and possibly lose Kherson in a counter-offensive, while they become a FAAAAAARRRRTTTT of a presence everywhere else in Ukraine? Well actually you see Putin's master plan is to bring back barracks communism.
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PharmerBoy posted:Can someone who speaks the language give some context on the notes, and maybe explain on why there's a swastika in the middle of that red star? Nazi = Russcist (portmanteau of Russian and fascist) WARRIOR! The Muscovite came to KILL you, to occupy your land, to turn your relatives into slaves. KILL the Muscovite! 'Drench with evil blood of foemen Freedom that it thrive' - Taras Shevchenko, 'My Testament' Paladinus fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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ummel posted:There's a bunch of TikTok footage from markets and such in Kyiv as well. Of course it could all be a psyop but there's enough of it, I tend to think not. There seem to be a lot of pictures from three weeks ago of empty shelves due to panic buying when there was actual fear of a siege. I think that has settled down now.
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Random Integer posted:https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1504861555703353357?s=20&t=QCOKj0mbLKPdk_wb7H_J5g
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Finally I get it. Putin's whole goal was a burn the ships style invasion. Too bad he didn't Factor in Ukrainian tractors
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Fragrag posted:I don't think Google Maps detected the traffic jams due to soldier's phones, but rather civilians who were being affected by military movements due to intersections being closed off or routes being shut down Fair enough, that could’ve also been the case. Shes Not Impressed posted:Not going to hold my breath, but Biden is heading over this week to Europe . Poland meeting is on Friday, I think.
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Paladinus posted:'Drench with evil blood of foemen For those unfamiliar with Schevchenko and Zapovid, you can read a bunch of translations here: https://tarnawsky.artsci.utoronto.ca/courses/468/Zapovit-comparison.pdf
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Charliegrs posted:I think that with any country that has been shunned from the world economy the only way they get back in is simply time. Time for the collective memories of people to forget about whatever atrocities were committed. And time enough for corporations to be able to do business with whatever horrible regime without the PR hit. Because capital doesn't give a flying gently caress about human suffering. All the companies that pulled out of Russia didn't do it to show any kind of solidarity with the Ukrainian people, they did it to prevent horrible PR that could hurt their sales in stable countries. They'll be back in Russia the second they can get away with it. Capital may not care about human suffering but it protects itself absolutely. Russia is not on the side of capital. It produces no return on investment. A kleptocratic mafia state seizing a massive growth area of productive investments so they can be distributed back to the court of declining feudal strongman does not align with number. The sanctions have been so far beyond what anyone thought likely or possible because this war has challenged the liberal capitalist world order - it's a war against capital as much as it's against the homonazis. Russia has challenged the very forces of nature, and it must atone.
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Well that's a pretty amazing thing. Especially if you craine can start creeping their air cover closer to dnipr
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Blut posted:Russia has 15.9 million men aged 18-35. Their war losses would need to hit 500,000 deaths before it started making a demographic dent. Demographics are the least of Russia's war concerns. By the end of this, it would not surprise me if the combined total of casualties and people fleeing the country was over 500k.
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