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Twelve by Pies posted:With all the usual insane claims such as there being pictures of multiple politicians doing depraved sex acts with kids. it always wraps around to this in the end because all conservatives can do is project
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If I were a member of a group, and one of that group's major beliefs was "We hate you and can't wait for you to be tortured eternally," I would simply choose to not be a member of that group. Likewise, if I were a member of a group, and one of that group's major beliefs was "We hate your friend and can't wait for your friend to be tortured eternally," I would also choose not to be a member of that group, either.
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I've tried using simple logic and common sense with many people. It confuses and scares them.
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Twelve by Pies posted:If I were a member of a group, and one of that group's major beliefs was "We hate you and can't wait for you to be tortured eternally," I would simply choose to not be a member of that group. That's where the money is.
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Mar 21, 2022 01:09
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"It's the left's tolerant position of my behavior that makes the right want to kill and torture me." Therefore if the left were intolerant of him the right would love him? So the right is, in his opinion, defined by it's rhetoric of opposition and not any basic moral beliefs? Sounds about like what we understood already.
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Mar 21, 2022 16:39
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Wait I thought the left was intolerant and that's why he left the left? Did he actually leave because the left is so tolerant it's intolerable to the right?
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Mar 21, 2022 16:43
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The actual answer is that Dave Rubin is personally liberal and he's playing a part. He's a failed comedian who accepted a stream from the funnel of money that gets pointed your way if you have some media training and are willing to use it for evil, spreading right-wing propaganda. His role is the token gay who gives official gay permission to conservatives to be homophobic because they're fighting a war to save civilization from the left which in the end is good for everyone even the gays. For conservatives who need a rationalization, of course. Or even for the ones who don't to use as a glib rhetorical device ("see you libs are the real homophobes because you want to destroy Western civilization which is good for gay people")
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Mar 21, 2022 16:50
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I mean yeah the real answer is he is willing to eat a bucket of poo poo on a daily basis for the money. I wish I could be that emotionally hollow and cynical but then if people like Rubin were dime a dozen it wouldn't be a lucrative market.
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Mar 21, 2022 16:57
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In fairness he was a really, really bad comedian
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Well in that regard he IS dime a dozen.
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Murgos posted:"It's the left's tolerant position of my behavior that makes the right want to kill and torture me." This is the language of the abused. My mom always blamed herself for my dad hitting her. "He's mad at what I said. He is just angry because I let him down" etc. "You hate me because my old friends are too nice" is not the defense Dave thinks it is.
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Tesseraction posted:Wait I thought the left was intolerant and that's why he left the left? Did he actually leave because the left is so tolerant it's intolerable to the right? The left is whatever these types want it to be. No, you see, they're the real racists/fascists. They're the ones who won't tolerate my intolerance. In fact, I believe you'll find that the German Nazis were socialist and since Obama and Biden are socialist (cause we said so) they are therefore nazis. No, you're the election fraud! And how come it's OK for black people to say the n-word? Here, have a picture of a photoshopped cracker with a random white guy. Totally the same. Removing statues is erasing history. Oh, here's a bill outlawing teachers from teaching about that history since it's too political and all these lefty teachers have an agenda to make America look bad. Why do all liberals hate America so much? Here's a thing the NYT reported that I actually said and am recorded saying but it's biased fake news, you see, so only trust me. Coming up: "Will Christmas Remain LEGAL?" Here's a news graphic showing how poor people have microwave ovens that proves poverty is made up. Democrats hate capitalism and want us all on the government dole to control us. You're not poor unless you eat bugs off the sidewalk and Americans are lazy....HEY! Look at this liberal who wants to form a union that insulted hard working Americans over here!
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Remember the Tides Foundation, a charitable foundation and Glenn Beck boogeyman, whomhe inspired a shooting against in 20-loving-10? Today I overheard a coworker’s blaring Facebook videos talking about them in relation to BLM and the radical left. It rules that Republicans can keep getting mad at that stuff more than a decade later while liberals in big cities memory-holed police shooting pepper balls at them specifically less than two years ago.
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Dr Christmas posted:Remember the Tides Foundation, a charitable foundation and Glenn Beck boogeyman, whomhe inspired a shooting against in 20-loving-10? Today I overheard a coworker’s blaring Facebook videos talking about them in relation to BLM and the radical left. This is probably because Glenn Beck recently did a giant chalkboard episode about BLM and proof of how they're a Soros funded commu-Nazi group that's trying to force The Great Reset.
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There's the Soros name drop but no mention of ACORN, Hillary or Planned Parentood? Where's Q during all this, still laying low? Man, our secret underground cabal is coming apart at the seams. My Soros Bux haven't been getting deposited since forever ago and my marching orders are practically non existent. I haven't been told which riots to pretend to participate in since BLM and George Floyd. I joke but it freaks me the gently caress out how many gainfully employed parents of young children actually believe this kind of poo poo is the truth. I promise you if you are a participating member of society that you meet at least 5 or 10 of them everyday even if you don't realize it. And I 100% blame the heaviest hitters of talk radio and RWM for it, full stop. I'll throw a few megachurches and televangelists in there as well.
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Mar 21, 2022 19:35
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Twelve by Pies posted:This is probably because Glenn Beck recently did a giant chalkboard episode about BLM and proof of how they're a Soros funded commu-Nazi group that's trying to force The Great Reset. Was Whitewater on the  chalkboard too?
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The Great Reset is neo-Nazi propaganda, so good job there Glenn
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Angry_Ed posted:Was Whitewater on the Beats me, his chalkboard episodes are on The Blaze TV, which I'm sure as hell not going to give him money to watch. I just hear him shill them on his radio show. He even talked this one up saying "You may be wondering why I'm doing an episode on BLM in the middle of all this inflation and the war with Ukraine, especially since BLM hasn't been prominent in a while, but trust me they're still working to destroy America and when you watch the episode you'll go 'oh my god it all makes sense now.'" Beck has really gone back to full on crazytown lately by the way, he's convinced we're headed for complete Mad Max apocalypse, and he even talked the other day about how "It's so weird, for years I was predicting all these things and now they're coming true, I'm no longer trying to find the puzzle pieces of how the downfall of the US will happen, now they're all there and I'm just watching them come together."
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It’s great he wants to debase himself and continue to ask for more as the right punches him in the face but those kids are going to end up so hosed up because of it. Imagine your parents in public going “Yeah we totally shouldn’t have adopted it’s awful we were allowed to, we shouldn’t be allowed to have our kids”
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It's such a moving target. Since they were surrogate pregnancies the right gets to concern troll how gay people like Rubin are stealing babies from women while pretending they'd have no problem had they been adopted. And I guarantee you they will appropriate leftist concerns about surrogacy (criticism of capitalism, consent, etc) and pretend like there's people on the left that agree gay people shouldn't get surrogate babies.
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I love how RWM and the GOP are bragging about not stooping to a certain level with the Jackson confirmation hearings, unlike what the evil dems did with Justice Beer. You don't get to claim some sort of moral high ground for not bringing up non existent rape accusations. This won't be all slimy and contentious like that last go round since, you know, there's nothing slimy or contentious about this nominee.
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They've decided they're going to frame her as soft on pedophiles and hope they can flip any Republicans by making them worried they'll look pro-pedo if they vote to confirm her.
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Twelve by Pies posted:They've decided they're going to frame her as soft on pedophiles and hope they can flip any Republicans by making them worried they'll look pro-pedo if they vote to confirm her. The GOP and conservatives are really obsessed with pedophiles I keep noticing.
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BiggerBoat posted:The GOP and conservatives are really obsessed with pedophiles I keep noticing. 
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See also: voter fraud, fake news
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BiggerBoat posted:Where's Q during all this, still laying low? Running for office. Last week's QAA podcast brought up the point that all these nutters that have been stewing in right wing propaganda and being radicalized are taking action and getting involved in local politics. IIRC we've discussed Maus getting banned in schools in this thread and Q folks gaining footholds in institutions is a contributing factor to our replay of last century's worst atrocities. The podcast emphasized something along the lines of "at this point making fun of them or pointing out the error of their ways with facts only strengthens their resolve", which plays into the double down mentality of our favorite right wing personalities.
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BiggerBoat posted:The GOP and conservatives are really obsessed with pedophiles I keep noticing. Besides the projection angle I think it checks off a number of boxes for conservatives: -Pedophilia is considered a universally bad thing so it is an extremely "safe" problem to crusade against. They also do this thing (needs to be a word for it) where if you're not 100% in agreement with them then you must be 100% in support of what they are against. -They desperately try to conflate outgroups with pedophilia, be it LGBTQ groups, Muslims, leftists, etc. Since pedophilia should be thought of as a universally harmful thing they will try to associate outgroups with that property. This sidesteps the live and let live principles most people would associate with those outgroups otherwise. Muslims aren't bad because of their race or worship, but because they believe in sexually abusing minors. And yes, they will sometimes go after Catholics for this but it usually comes from some protestant fundamentalism. -Conservatives treat their children as property and treat their kids' abuse with the same disdain as someone ruining their lawn. Their validation of allegations has a lot to do with their attitude towards the perpetrator. The more brown, queer, or leftist they are, the more likely a conservative will believe the abuse happened. Children never get any agency in these situations; only the conservative parent is allowed to speak about it. Acknowledgement of the abuse is only allowed to serve the conservatives agenda. -Along those lines, speaking out about pedophilia is a safe method of Performative Parenting which makes it look like the conservative is vigilant and protective. You see this a ton with Transphobia; the conservative will immediately veer the conversation about what they would do if it was their daughter in that swim team /bathroom /changing room /dance club/etc. The concept of sexual abuse is kind of just a fig leaf to legitimize the violence they already want to commit anyway. -Finally, it is just one of many fascist boogeymen in that pedophiles are dangerous because they are a threat to children, yet they are craven and weak and so must be confronted directly. Note that no conservative worries about being overpowered or victimized by a pedophile in the same manner as their children might be. Panfilo fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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Panfilo posted:They also do this thing (needs to be a word for it) where if you're not 100% in agreement with them then you must be 100% in support of what they are against.
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Panfilo posted:They also do this thing (needs to be a word for it) where if you're not 100% in agreement with them then you must be 100% in support of what they are against. It's like they're trying to use signals... for virtues?
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I don't think it's more complex than "moral absolutist considers any disagreement to be evil"
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Who really cares but: I think Dave Rubin was basically inchoate politically other than swimming in liberal waters and taking that as a default, doing kind of celebrity gossip stuff and trying to be funny, and seeing things through his narrow life experience (i.e. 'pro-gay' mostly because he was). And he wasn't getting much of anywhere career-wise / probably started getting frustrated and some negative feedback, which can uh cause a reaction, and the pro-gay thing took a back seat to pro-Israel/Islamaphobia. If you're dumb honestly the easiest talking head gig in the game is "ex liberal who is now conservative" (especially if you are a minority and/or LGBTQ), and since those weak convictions were DISTANT seconds to general ambition it was probably inevitable.
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Panfilo posted:-Finally, it is just one of many fascist boogeymen in that pedophiles are dangerous because they are a threat to children, yet they are craven and weak and so must be confronted directly. Note that no conservative worries about being overpowered or victimized by a pedophile in the same manner as their children might be. This logic is also demonstrated by right-wingers talking about defending themselves/their property. Wherein they are the only ones with the moral fortitude and mental acuity to buy a gun and shoot at paper targets on the weekends
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BiggerBoat posted:I love how RWM and the GOP are bragging about not stooping to a certain level with the Jackson confirmation hearings, unlike what the evil dems did with Justice Beer. You don't get to claim some sort of moral high ground for not bringing up non existent rape accusations. The official GOP Twitter tweeted her picture yesterday with her initials. Then, the initials got crossed out and replaced with "CRT" What they're doing is so much worse.
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Today's gotcha was "Define what a woman is. Oh you're such a social justice warrior radical leftist pinko-commie that you won't say everyone is a man or a woman and the rest are lying to try to rape you children. I see how terrible you are you pedophile defender."
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I liked yesterday's questioning where one senator was like "According to the ninth amendment, there are unenumerated rights guaranteed to the people, describe to me what unenumerated rights exist." I mean it was very obviously an attempt to get her to say she supports trans rights and such, but just on its face it's a ridiculous question. It's like if I said "There are hundreds of undiscovered fish species in the ocean, describe to me what these undiscovered fish look like."
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Twelve by Pies posted:I liked yesterday's questioning where one senator was like "According to the ninth amendment, there are unenumerated rights guaranteed to the people, describe to me what unenumerated rights exist." I mean it was very obviously an attempt to get her to say she supports trans rights and such, but just on its face it's a ridiculous question. It's like if I said "There are hundreds of undiscovered fish species in the ocean, describe to me what these undiscovered fish look like." "Well, to start, the constitution does not explicitly state whether the federal or state governments can control if someone can put a 'Born on a mountain, raised in a cave, truckin' and fuckin' is all that I crave' bumper sticker on the back of their Chevy Bronco. Second..."
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FlamingLiberal posted:In fairness he was a really, really bad comedian He's also really, really dumb. Twelve by Pies posted:I liked yesterday's questioning where one senator was like "According to the ninth amendment, there are unenumerated rights guaranteed to the people, describe to me what unenumerated rights exist." I mean it was very obviously an attempt to get her to say she supports trans rights and such, but just on its face it's a ridiculous question. It's like if I said "There are hundreds of undiscovered fish species in the ocean, describe to me what these undiscovered fish look like." I wonder if this was an attempt to like reverse-Bork her. One of the things that really torpedoed him was his saying that the 9th was basically meaningless.
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If I were being interviewed by Ted Cruz and asked about child abuse I would make sure to mention that he was good buddies with Josh Duggar, who was found with tons of ‘horrific’ child porn according to investigators. Also his sisters have accused him of molestation
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