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Vitruvian Manic posted:I don't think the show has ever lied to the audience and your take would make the show a liar Are you referring to grandmother being a million years old? If you assume that she changed her appearance after resurrection it kinda works. Sol/ancient aliens took hominids from earth ~1 million years ago and settled them on Kepler, where they evolved to look like the cave guys. The show explicitly mentions them being descendents of Neanderthals which only works with an ancient aliens angle since they have been extinct for so long now. At some point the Keplerians/Neanderthals did make it back to earth (presumably after the apocalypse on Kepler) using two androids and some embryos. Maybe that's where Mithraism comes in? The ancient aliens never visited earth again or gone extinct hundreds of thousands of years ago and homininds is all there is now(except for Sol?)
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Sue was the real wolf all along. Also, something I just realized: Sue went by the name Mary before changing her identity.
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Vintersorg posted:"What the gently caress?" The tree video and the SuperSnake taking potshots at the water as it slowly approaches for the boss fight with Campion were both extremely DS.
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It's Always Sunny On Kepler-22b (because the day-for-night colour grading is dogshit)
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Mister Speaker posted:(because the day-for-night colour grading is dogshit)
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The only thing I started noticing after someone brought it up is that light sources are too dim even though they try to touch those up.
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No Pants posted:The only thing I started noticing after someone brought it up is that light sources are too dim even though they try to touch those up.
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 Fireworks are blue at night on Kepler 22b due to science reasons. Number of moons, air pressure and whatnot
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those are dark photons you silly billy.
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Kepler 22-b's sun emits light at a particular wavelength that, when reflected from its various moons, makes everything look like you hosed up your HDR settings on your TV.
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I was thinking about the day for night all the time, and how many night scenes there are... Is it supposed to be something symbolic about the absence of Sol? There are a LOT of scenes at "night" that could have been set during the day, so why go through all the trouble? Like Marcus/Caleb gets shot with the sun behind him a lot, is that when Sol is influencing him compared to when he is at night?
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When the show talks about symbolism in the after show I'm like "I dont get what a snake eating a tree is supposed to mean to begin with, much less what the symbolism is supposed to be."
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Vintersorg posted:Speaking of - the tree video was brutal - reminded me of poo poo outta like Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Elden Ring. Just crazy good body horror. Yeah, the card warnings are really well made. There is no use of language, symbols or faces in them. Whoever made them had no idea who or what will find them and what language they will speak but still tried to get the warnings across as well as possible. It's like those "nothing of value is buried here" warnings we designed for hypothetical nuclear end storage facilities.
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Vintersorg posted:"What the gently caress?" There's a status condition in Elden Ring that sort of reminds me of tree video and it's absolutely horrifying.
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Professor Beetus posted:There's a status condition in Elden Ring that sort of reminds me of tree video and it's absolutely horrifying. "death" huh, i guess you just fall over and d-oh god
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GABA ghoul posted:Yeah, the card warnings are really well made. There is no use of language, symbols or faces in them. Whoever made them had no idea who or what will find them and what language they will speak but still tried to get the warnings across as well as possible. It's like those "nothing of value is buried here" warnings we designed for hypothetical nuclear end storage facilities. Were they warnings? they looked like instructions "ok you get a volunteer, see, they're wearing a special glove with a hole in it, to accept the seed and turn into a tree".
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redreader posted:Were they warnings? they looked like instructions "ok you get a volunteer, see, they're wearing a special glove with a hole in it, to accept the seed and turn into a tree". I dunno but If I had seen what's on these cards in real life I would have stayed the gently caress away from anything dodecahedron shaped for life. The kids watching the tree warning one seemed to agree. If you are on the believer side you probably don't need instructions because Sol will tell you exactly what to do as it did for the kid/Marcus/Sue.
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ex post facho posted:again, 3 moons, dunno why the super bright night scenes are an issue It looks like poo poo no matter how hard they justify it in lore. Just have fewer night scenes
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maybe getting turned into a tree and eaten by the snake is the highest honour you can achieve poor sue. and marcus. loving sol
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Decima too. She got hardcore Abraham'd by Sol.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Decima too. She got hardcore Abraham'd by Sol. You're not making going to feel sorry for someone that broke her daughter's neck.
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Despera posted:When the show talks about symbolism in the after show I'm like "I dont get what a snake eating a tree is supposed to mean to begin with, much less what the symbolism is supposed to be." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%AD%C3%B0h%C3%B6ggr Read u some Norse myth 
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steinrokkan posted:It looks like poo poo no matter how hard they justify it in lore. What is lovely about it?
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This is the modern internet, viewers have a hard time understanding that depiction does not equal endorsement so you can't expect them to think light might look different on an alien planet
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why do people even give a poo poo about that, who cares
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steinrokkan posted:It looks like poo poo no matter how hard You can make up your own in-universe reasons for why it looks bad, but it just sounds to me like someone who mixes an album poorly and says "well that's just my creative vision, it's supposed to sound like that." But I understand why people want everything to make sense in defense of their pet TV show - on this dead gay comedy forum, people will write thousand-word screeds about their anime fan theories given the slightest provocation. I do find the show compelling as hell, even if it is loving wack, but I'm not in love with the thing beyond calling out shoddy production design when I see it. hey i love your music
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quote:shoddy production design I mean, if anything, your gripe is against the color grading, production design has nothing to do with it.
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Blue for night looks cheap because it is a cheap and easy way to make things look vaguely like night. I feel like it's kind of a joke in this show that the alien night happens to look like a cheap filmmaking technique. I personally think it works. It looks off and alien, and that's in aid of the atmosphere they're going for. But it is a cheap filmmaking technique. There's no way to incorporate other light sources without making it look really bad. Someone posted the inexplicably blue fireworks as an example. I don't think there's any reason to defend it as a real artistic decision- it's just a well integrated cheap technique.
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I wouldn't have noticed the cinematography of the night scenes if y'all hadn't mentioned it earlier in the thread. It lends an alien nature to the planet, which is a foreign hell for humanity rightly punished by an uncaring and alien mind, while also aiding in its viewability on tiny screens like half the world now consumes this content. I love this show and it's totally bonkers writing and ask mildly as a street urchin starving for the sustenance of robot milk, please HBO may I have some more. It doesn't look *too* expensive, HBO. Your CGI is mid-2000's grade and you're spending most of the production value on the writer's room bath salts, please. Please, may we have 10 episodes in Season 3.
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I pretty much automatically signed it off as being another planet. Knowing that it's a lovely older filming technique never mattered to me. Snakes and poo poo flyin' around who cares.
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Tree Sue is the greatest twist in show business since the turn of the decade and then you have the sheer rage of Mother being unceremoniously "boxed" by a millions-year old robot who thinks a stupefied charge is better than toddlers with agency. "Why is she repairing the stasis pods, that's strange." It was such obvious prestaging that the brain just dismissed it as a, guess we'll figure that out later, huh and carried forward.
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Gazaar posted:Snakes and poo poo flyin' around who cares. This is the one thing I cannot write off with this show. It just feels far too unrealistic. You have a bunch of Joe Smiths from Nebraska, okay. Maybe John Smith wouldn't care about the greatest discovery in anthropology since the Rosetta Stone, but why is the Trust so flippant. Why are those androids so casual about the discoveries on Kepler. "HUMANITY CAME FROM HERE AND THERE IS AN ANGRY GOD INSULTED BY ITS PRESENCE;" does the Trust just go, "yeah but I gotta get them some food?" You have far too many more of these discoveries to list in a singular post. Why does Mother understand Mithraic but doesn't care much ado about this archaic stupid mask used to punish people by the Trust that also came from this planet? If I was just Some Guy who happened to win the lottery ticket of Get Off Planet During Armageddon, I think and hope I would still have the intellectual curiousity to be utterly floored at the discovery that humans are not from earth and this is a story older than all of us and hey -- there is an actual God/Entity. If I were the Trust, I would have been keeping all eyes on these artifacts. As a quantum computer I'm sure I would have cracked each mystery in moments, alerted the colony of the dangers in as simplistic 5th grade terms, and come up with a better plan than "kill the walking weapon's child."
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A Bad King posted:This is the one thing I cannot write off with this show. It just feels far too unrealistic. I don't know OP, as a stupid meatbag on a hostile planet I'd be more concerned with not dying. Also someone, maybe Cleaver, made a remark that the athiests who survived the war are not the best and the brightest so to speak.
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Gorman Thomas posted:I don't know OP, as a stupid meatbag on a hostile planet I'd be more concerned with not dying. Also someone, maybe Cleaver, made a remark that the athiests who survived the war are not the best and the brightest so to speak. Basically. My immediate curiosity would amount to what to do to avoid being turned into a snake or tree or puddle of human goop after touching the acid. "Oh you found another artifact? Great. Does it help put food on the table? Does it help me finish my chores faster? Then idgaf. Give it to the artifact studying android or something."
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It's almost like there's an ongoing theme in the show that adhering to dogma (programming via literal coding in the case of the androids/ai and via religious indoctrination and upbringing) in the face of chaos, the unknown, and newly acquired information is a net negative.
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Doctor Jeep posted:why do people even give a poo poo about that, who cares
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