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The US was absolutely the aggressor in the Indian Wars, the Mexican American War, and the Spanish American War.
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PookBear posted:https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2007/December/07_crm_967.html My uncle (RIP) was an undocumented seasonal worker in CA his entire life. I live in Las Vegas and know at least two undocumented workers. I genuinely can't raise my eyebrows too hard on visa crimes, without casting aspersions at my own family. The dramatic reduction in sentence leads me to believe there's something more to the story we won't know. I genuinely think his videos and opinions are good, and send a positive message, there's not an easy way to frame what he says as problematic or untruthful. I can acknowledge that opinion likely contributes to my perception, but I can't think of something he's said that set off my dogs or marginalizes anyone. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Mar 23, 2022 17:23
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Cimber posted:Yeah, pretty much. Colonial conquests? Spanish Civil War? Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia? Six Day War? (Israel attacked first and came away with conquered territory) Also there's a lot of cases of initial success where the aggressor was only later defeated. E.g. WWII German invasions of Poland and France, or Iraq rolling into Kuwait.
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I've been following that YouTube channel for a couple of years now, and that video in the PDF is exactly what got my attention (I am not and have never been interested in a militia, though) because it spoke exactly to my frustrations with the US legal system. There plenty he's had to say about a number of issues that I reject almost out of hand, but... Well I guess I gotta unsub and unfollow now. At first I was pretty sceptical about that pdf, because anyone can just make any old bullshit up. It looks like it might be real, though. I just wish I was better at investigating people to figure out what I needed to know.
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Mar 23, 2022 17:30
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All sorts of historical colonial violent takeovers come to mind, folks. Very aggressive, often successful! Others while I drink a coffee: Mexican-American War. Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait was highly successful. The next war 5 months later, well… US intervention into Grenada. US war in Panama. Spanish-American War. Various US wars vs Indian nations E: beaten on several
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Mar 23, 2022 17:31
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Claims of successful Ukraine advances https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/1506660525106778120?s=20&t=Ihh9BIY3atFRwz35rBPPzw
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Wasabi the J posted:My uncle (RIP) was an undocumented seasonal worker in CA his entire life. I live in Las Vegas and know at least two undocumented workers. He took advantage of people and sold them fraudulent work visas
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Mar 23, 2022 17:31
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How legal do you think the visas my uncle rode on were?
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Mar 23, 2022 17:33
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Wasabi the J posted:My uncle (RIP) was an undocumented seasonal worker in CA his entire life. I live in Las Vegas and know at least two undocumented workers. Most (reasonable) people don't place much blame on the workers who are trying to make some money without a visa. People exploiting those workers and profiting off their undocumented status need to get hosed though.
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Mar 23, 2022 17:34
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NightGyr posted:Colonial conquests? Spanish Civil War? Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia? Six Day War? (Israel attacked first and came away with conquered territory) Well, wars where the aggressor is so much more powerful than the defender don't really count. The United States attacking the Sioux in a war of conquest isn't exactly sporting. quote:Also there's a lot of cases of initial success where the aggressor was only later defeated. E.g. WWII German invasions of Poland and France, or Iraq rolling into Kuwait. Pretty much. Wars of territorial conquest are basically unwinnable these days. ww1, ww2, Korea? Hell, even the 6 day wars was lost by Israel 5 years layer with part two.
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Wasabi the J posted:How legal do you think the visas my uncle rode on were? Your Uncle was the one being exploited, though.
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Mar 23, 2022 17:37
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He was a coyote from the sounds of it.
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Mar 23, 2022 17:40
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Cimber posted:Well, wars where the aggressor is so much more powerful than the defender don't really count. This kind of rhetorical rule makes the whole question pointless, no?
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Most (reasonable) people don't place much blame on the workers who are trying to make some money without a visa. People exploiting those workers and profiting off their undocumented status need to get hosed though. Yes, I mean it’s entirely possible to sympathize with the victims and still wanting those who facilitate and profit from it to get their poo poo pushed in.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yes, I mean it’s entirely possible to sympathize with the victims and still wanting those who facilitate and profit from it to get their poo poo pushed in. or at the very least, not have them be a "leftist influencer"
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quote:King joined the conspiracy in 2005, and created and mailed fraudulent visa applications seeking more than 1,500 additional aliens. quote:The investigation of the case began in late 2005. quote:According to the evidence, when the government became aware of the illegal conduct and stopped issuing visas petitioned by the labor contracting entity King and his co-conspirators were using, Eurohouse Holding Corporation, they created a new labor contracting corporation called Woland and continued their fraudulent activity. Weird name. I know the DOJ and feds love their codenames, wonder what Woland means... Woland posted:Woland (Russian: Воланд) is a fictional character in the 1937 novel The Master and Margarita by the Russian (Soviet) author Mikhail Bulgakov. Woland is the mysterious foreigner and professor whose visit to Moscow sets the plot rolling and turns the world upside-down. 
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PookBear posted:or at the very least, not have them be a "leftist influencer"  
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In just the past few months, he has rolled out a few gems like "never been tried" and tried to insinuate that the red banner and the homesteader are natural political allies. I mostly ignored that because I've been on board with his Trump, Jan 6, and foreign policy messaging.
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A.o.D. posted:In just the past few months, he has rolled out a few gems like "never been tried" and tried to insinuate that the red banner and the homesteader are natural political allies. I mostly ignored that because I've been on board with his Trump, Jan 6, and foreign policy messaging. “Never been tried, but plead guilty, served time, and now can’t own guns…but I was never tried.”
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Marshal Prolapse posted:“Never been tried, but plead guilty, served time, and now can’t own guns…but I was never tried.” I meant the leftist chestnut about communism, but that's funny, too.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Most (reasonable) people don't place much blame on the workers who are trying to make some money without a visa. People exploiting those workers and profiting off their undocumented status need to get hosed though. Ok so, just to tip my hand, again my uncle did this kinda poo poo. You gotta buy get some kind of visa to stay here; so you find a phony boss to sign you up or they sign you up for a visa where you're not actually going to work -- but the job doesn't matter because what you're after is this paper. The visa keeps INS and CBP from bouncing you the second you get pulled over by a rando cop; you got a visa, it checks out in the lookup, cop hands you back the docs and away you go. In this case it seems they were stuffing the queue for visas at one place to get more people over than the employers actually requested. It doesn't sound particularly heinous, especially when I can easily imagine an "appropriate" context; for instance, if some one was trying to sneak their non-legally recognized spouse in on the same work visa application so the don't have to stay behind or find another coyote. Marshal Prolapse posted:“Never been tried, but plead guilty, served time, and now can’t own guns…but I was never tried.” He literally said the opposite quote:First, I took the case to trial. A plea deal requires you to plead guilty. Second, the sentence itself. In the federal system, everything is governed by the United States Sentencing Commission. The most serious charge is the controlling sentence and everything else is ran concurrently by default. There's literally a chart and guidelines. For my case (see page 258 of first link), the base offense level is 12, plus 9 for having smuggled more than 100 people. The gives you an offense level of 21. Then you go to the chart (second link). Without prior criminal history, you're in category I. 21 levels equals a sentence range of 37 to 46 months. To go outside this range, the judge is supposed to have a very good reason. I was sentenced to 41. Then you're supposed to get 15% off for good behavior and an additional 6 months of taken off as time in a halfway house. I didn't even get all of the standard time off. lol.
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Unclear if this is related to the fancy e-warfare box in the pictures yesterday, but it would be super funny if the Ukrainians got the box and the guy who knows how to run the box. https://twitter.com/gordoncorera/status/1506677579838799877?s=20&t=yLIaWrLfu0UN3S4DhyyIxA
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Wasabi the J posted:
I have trouble trusting a guy who handwaves his prison sentence and ends it with a lol. Dude you’re a white make human trafficker, you don’t get to complain about the sentencing guidelines like you’re a victim.
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I think people may be overreacting to the word "human trafficking" because it autoparses to "sex trafficking" If it's just forging visas then it's just a mundane gently caress-the-police crime that is ubiquitous in the US. Doing so is very in line with his public leftist policy promotion
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Mar 23, 2022 18:19
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Cimber posted:Yeah, pretty much. Point of order: In the Franco-Prussian war, the aggressor was very clearly France. Yes, Bismarck manipulated the French to attack, but the French were still very clearly the attacking side. Had they not declared war on Prussia, there would not have been a war.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I have trouble trusting a guy who handwaves his prison sentence and ends it with a lol. Dude you’re a white make human trafficker, you don’t get to complain about the sentencing guidelines like you’re a victim. According to the conviction, he is not a human trafficker.
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mlmp08 posted:All sorts of historical colonial violent takeovers come to mind, folks. Very aggressive, often successful! An old Doonesbury strip comes to mind (they’re hell to search for) where Uncle Duke is telling a Latin American ambassador “when has America ever interfered with Latin America?”, then gets a year by year account of every invasion. The punchline, to Honey (as the list keeps growing): “Bad news, looks like the Ambassador is something of a history buff”
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Mar 23, 2022 18:25
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A.o.D. posted:The US was absolutely the aggressor in the Indian Wars, the Mexican American War, and the Spanish American War. Ahem, remember the Maine? I wouldnt hold someone helping traffic people into the United States against them, unless they did so in furtherance of some kind of illegal and abusive operation here in the USA. We should go back to open borders. P. S. gently caress the DoJ P. P. S. However for the crime of being a youtube celebrity - 50 lashes Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Mar 23, 2022 18:34
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M_Gargantua posted:I think people may be overreacting to the word "human trafficking" because it autoparses to "sex trafficking" Yeah if you read the actual DOJ testimony, he only every filled out paperwork and met with people to keep their visas in the shuffle.   He literally got someone a different gig cus the AC made them sick. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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In actual Ukraine war news, Israel has banned Russia from purchasing their super cell phone spy software: https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/news/2022/03/23/7136484/
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Mar 23, 2022 18:44
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I'm not saying he was the worst person that ever lived, but maybe don't link his videos to support your argument.
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Wasabi the J posted:Yeah if you read the actual DOJ testimony, he only every filled out paperwork and met with people to keep their visas in the shuffle. I have to chew on this for a bit. Nothing here is specifically objectionable to me. I need a clearer picture. PookBear posted:I'm not saying he was the worst person that ever lived, but maybe don't link his videos to support your argument. if that transcript is an accurate characterization of his actions, it does nothing to cast a shadow on his character.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:57
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Wasabi the J posted:Weird name. I know the DOJ and feds love their codenames, wonder what Woland means... Yeah man because your uncle was the victim of poo poo immigration process this Florida Man has to be an FBI mole. That's why he spent three years in jail, so he could work his way into another cell and break it up, right?
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Mar 23, 2022 18:58
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ASAPI posted:In actual Ukraine war news, Israel has banned Russia from purchasing their super cell phone spy software: Uhh, the translation I'm reading says Israel banned Ukraine from purchasing their super cell phone spy software.
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McGavin posted:Uhh, the translation I'm reading says Israel banned Ukraine from purchasing their super cell phone spy software. That's the message I'm getting as well
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Ahahahahaha Russia’s going to cause Germany to stop getting gas from them. https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1506677652798820358?s=20&t=M8n1zYP_jnFo5HjEwnG57g
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Soul Dentist posted:That's the message I'm getting as well McGavin posted:Uhh, the translation I'm reading says Israel banned Ukraine from purchasing their super cell phone spy software. Oops, reading is hard.
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On the subject of fragging, I’m surprised that during the Trump of execution bonanza that this guy didn’t come up. I figured he would be a poster boy for it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Hasan_K._Akbar
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Mar 23, 2022 19:20
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ASAPI posted:In actual Ukraine war news, Israel has banned Russia from purchasing their super cell phone spy software: The podcast Darknet Diaries episode 100 has a fantastic explanation of how that spyware works and how it has been abused to target activists and aid oligarchs.
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This page has been an amazing example of whyleftwingplansfail.txt The youtuber who articulates points 98% in line with my views? Well he did something in the past which may not be ideal. Or possibly not. But there's a chance so gently caress HIM FOREVER I WILL HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT SHITHEEL. It's the same tired old crap that there's nothing a leftist hates more than the wrong kind of leftist. See also: Robert Evans.
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