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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I'm pretty sure horny is still prohibited around these parts

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Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

projecthalaxy posted:

The fun part of all these "how this 18 year old bought their own home(!!)" stories is when they casually slip in the small meaningless one time gift of $300,000.00 from the parents that didn't really affect anything it was all hard work!

full disclosure we did loan them 5k to meet closing costs but they did have the down payment. and hey, what's two orders of magnitude between friends. 300k would outright buy two nice houses out here, it's not exactly silicon valley.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

And to bring it back to the subject at hand, the only reason we had even that was the child tax credit payments, which we are now really feeling the absence of

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...
Yeah, to be fair, I've managed, by age 42, to save up enough money to buy a house if I want to. All it took was:

- completely abandoning the career I really wanted
- cold bloodedly calculating and then fully pursuing a career I don't give a poo poo about in computer touching, starting at age 27
- abandoning my entire family and friend group so I that I could move once every year or two for awhile in order to more rapidly advance my career
- consciously not making long term commitments anywhere to stay mobile
- despite making advanced computer-toucher money, deciding to continue to budget expenses like a starving art student
- investing 50 to 70 percent of my pay, instead of spending it all on cars, furniture and uh...artisanal avocado toast? (or you know, girlfriends/wives/children and memorable vacations for them all, like all my poor foolish advanced computer-toucher coworkers)
- the stock market doubling TWICE in the last 10 years (I invest exclusively in total market index funds and claim NO investment savvy for picking stocks whatsoever)
- definitely never having children
- not having disabilities and never getting sick
- maybe try picking yourself up by your bootstraps and being born white and unambiguously male like me
- try maybe choosing somewhere cheap like Oklahoma to spend your age 18-25 years figuring out that being a musician in America is a bad and irrational idea that surely no rational actor would consciously choose.

and that's without even getting into other advantages like having a non-broken home life with my parents while I was getting started and my first couple of cars being bought for me.

So yeah, if you can do all this stuff that is obviously perfectly normal and not-lizard-person human behavior and also absolutely all accessible to every person, then you too could have sufficient money by age 42 to buy a house in Oklahoma and not much else.

But lmao at the idea of actually wanting the ridiculous anchor of owning property in this stupid and worsening world that climate change is absolutely going to turn into a human hostile hellscape in most places, and ESPECIALLY wanting to stay anchored to America. lol. lmao. That's why I'm going to make enough money to rent and live humbly off the interest, so that hopefully I can just keep moving around to whereever happens to be a reasonable place (WITH healthcare, thx) so I can just loving play video games in peace. My plan of saving money to grow old as a weird hermit living in a cheap rental in Copenhagen while the world decays and slowly explodes is very enviable and totally the best I or anyone can do for themself THANKS DEMOCRATS YOU ROCK.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


but dont you dare speak out against capitalism because then you're a dirty hypocrite

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...

Ruzihm posted:

but dont you dare speak out against capitalism because then you're a dirty hypocrite

yeah funny how that works. I’m a hypocrite if I speak out about capitalism now, and back when I was poor musician I was “bitter and jealous”. weird!

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




my wifes dad bought our place it rules i just have to be nice to a crazy mean old dude

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

I want to see when Biden’s support goes below 30 consistently. I want to dance on the grave of the demon rats.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
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Crowsbeak posted:

I want to see when Biden’s support goes below 30 consistently. I want to dance on the grave of the demon rats.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
https://twitter.com/StatusCoup/stat...ingawful.com%2F

Disillusion Trek: The Next Generation

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
i can understand disillusion for people who voted for obama the first time thinking he was genuinely progressive, before he immediately filled up his administration with all kinds of ghouls and scum, but i'm not sure what illusions there would be to shatter for anyone who's voted democrat since then. was someone really, truly taken aback when joe and the dems went "sorry can't do any of that stuff"?

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

i can understand disillusion for people who voted for obama the first time thinking he was genuinely progressive, before he immediately filled up his administration with all kinds of ghouls and scum, but i'm not sure what illusions there would be to shatter for anyone who's voted democrat since then. was someone really, truly taken aback when joe and the dems went "sorry can't do any of that stuff"?

It’s more like you know he’s not going to do poo poo, and is lying profusely about it and was only voted in as a desperation tactic in the most cruel way possible, turning people you know against you in their gaslit heads saying that this bloodthirsty rapist charlatan who has never done proper civil service in the guise of his poisoned racist mind, is an Obama blessed decent person. It doesn’t make it better when you already know the lie, but they carry out the act anyways. It’s the act that’s egregious when it inevitably arrives, it’s not like it blunts the violence any less if you are expectant compared to rubes being absolutely devastated they got caught to be hung out to dry instead.

Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 01:56 on Mar 24, 2022

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
I was able to afford the down payment on my house cus my dad died and left me about $20k lol

I'd rather have my dad then the house

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

spacemang_spliff posted:

I was able to afford the down payment on my house cus my dad died and left me about $20k lol

I'd rather have my dad then the house

In a way, you did

AbysmalPeptoBismol
Feb 5, 2016

Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea!

spacemang_spliff posted:

I was able to afford the down payment on my house cus my dad died and left me about $20k lol

I'd rather have my dad then the house

I wish you could have both :smith:

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

ex post facho posted:

if this were a home mortgage loan I believe you could file a quiet title claim and if they can't prove the correct custodial chain of your loans and transference you cannot be held responsible for it


nope

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

I'm a Devos Democrat

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
the kids are smarter than the adults

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Winifred Madgers posted:

full disclosure we did loan them 5k to meet closing costs but they did have the down payment. and hey, what's two orders of magnitude between friends. 300k would outright buy two nice houses out here, it's not exactly silicon valley.

Look you're right but you have to remember that all the places where it's still possible (and it's actually possible in a LOT of places) are the same places that the democrats have long written off. The dems believe that America is the east coast and a few urban centers and that's it. All of those people buying homes in places that aren't these locations have an actual stake in the system and how it's run and have only political party to look toward. This is exactly the reason the democrats are dying and it's not a difficult problem to see for anyone who leaves the city.

The suburbs and the hinterlands are reactionary because they have no choice but to be if they're to participate in politics at all. The democrats are nothing but a brand for those they appeal to in the cities because they solely represent the wealthy elite of those cities. The republicans however actually are a political party in the definitional sense in that they have a project and incorporate and motivate actual constituents to build and participate in that project. The people they enlist are those very people have a stake in the system (and it's hard to argue that owning a house is not having a stake) and allowing them entry to the political sphere at least by virtue of being in that class.

So what you're observing is not only anecdotally correct but actually an observation on how only appealing to urbanist progressives as an aesthetic shunts more people away from the dems in a search for a viable political outlet to protect what they see as an investment into their future stability.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Palladium posted:

the kids are smarter than the adults

LOL the kids don't have donations riding on believing the opposite

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

i can understand disillusion for people who voted for obama the first time thinking he was genuinely progressive, before he immediately filled up his administration with all kinds of ghouls and scum, but i'm not sure what illusions there would be to shatter for anyone who's voted democrat since then. was someone really, truly taken aback when joe and the dems went "sorry can't do any of that stuff"?

If you grow up with Republican parents, you hear all about how the Democrats want to do all these things that will destroy traditional America (but actually sound good to you).

If you grow up with Democratic parents, you hear that the Democrats would be fixing all the problems if Republicans weren't sabotaging them every step of the way.

Those can be pretty strong illusions before you're grown up enough to look at it on your own and realize, the Dems don't actually want to do anything.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Real hurthling! posted:

my wifes dad bought our place it rules i just have to be nice to a crazy mean old dude

so you're a WH press reporter?

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
i also was only able to buy a house because my wife's dad died when she was 13 and left her some money.

i think she'd rather have a dad honestly.

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!

Polo-Rican posted:

At the very least they're keeping her away from cameras, which makes sense since she can't talk. Her diction is beyond terrible and she can't emote naturally. i've said this before but kamala might honestly be the worst speaker in washington

I was seeing someone in 2020 that thought Kamala was going to be the Brown Girlboss who inoculated America into decrazying and accepting the female future.

She didn't like when I laughed at her and now I am single


Anyway dems are going to be destroyed so hard that a Dem will become a standard unit of how much energy it takes to reduce something to rubble

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i think my sister is still a kamala fan. i try very hard to never speak to her about politics.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
Thinking about how the dems are pushing everyone to start commuting back to the office to prop up commercial real estate in a time of extremely high prices for cars, gas, childcare, and housing and smiling serenely

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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heated game moment posted:

Thinking about how the dems are pushing everyone to start commuting back to the office to prop up commercial real estate in a time of extremely high prices for cars, gas, childcare, and housing and smiling serenely

let them have dog chemotherapy

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

heated game moment posted:

Thinking about how the dems are pushing everyone to start commuting back to the office to prop up commercial real estate in a time of extremely high prices for cars, gas, childcare, and housing and smiling serenely

they're forcing us back for twice a week despite several internal polls they released saying that no one wants this and we're more effective remotely working, and they're explicitly stating that it's based on the president's forcing all the federal workers back and the CDC saying everything's ok so no masks too

lol dems are demonstrably worse than republicans on this

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
I'm a fed manager (not the cop kind) and we were notified yesterday that we have to start going in at least 50% of the time next month.

I only have 2 employees at my office and they both work from home

Poco
Jul 17, 2005

....I am a Tariff Man
Just want to say I'm extremely excited by the 2022 dem platform of:

- shrugging
- doing nothing
- or instead of doing nothing, boneheaded malicious incompetent decisions that make life worse for everyone

Blue wave 2022!!!

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
Drake no: UBI for people
Drake yes: UBI... for cars

https://twitter.com/mathowie/status...ingawful.com%2F

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

is newsom facetuned in that video? lmao

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




they are paying you money to own as many cars as possible. how much does it cost to register a title?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



heated game moment posted:

Thinking about how the dems are pushing everyone to start commuting back to the office to prop up commercial real estate in a time of extremely high prices for cars, gas, childcare, and housing and smiling serenely

in a show of bipartisanship, president biden is beginning his own program of putting stickers of himself saying "i did that!" on basic needs that are getting increasingly expensive

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



do you think lots of high-profile democrats proudly saying they'll be happy to make gas and food and whatever else more expensive to help ukraine will be good at winning over swing voters

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




We bought a nice house in a mid-sized town close to family in Georgia (not near Atlanta, natch). Wife invested in the right company at the right time and we were able to afford a down payment pretty easily after selling high.

I take a look at Zillow prices at *literally* anywhere west of the Rockies when I want a good laugh. loving tiny-rear end houses in Idaho Falls and exurban Phoenix are now north of 350k? No wonder people are so blackpilled.

I can’t even tell people to get off their coastie high horses and come on down to Dixie with me because it started getting stupid in the last year here, too.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Am I missing something or would it not be more effective to simply subsidize the cost of gasoline directly? Granted I wouldn't say that's a good idea, but if you specifically wanted to reduce the final cost of fuel why not just force retail outlets to price the good at x and then pay the difference they're losing buying wholesale?

Obviously I understand that the reason is SOCIALISM but if you're going to do it there are easier ways.

Any functional government would've set up such a system years ago simply to curb financial shocks from fuel price volatility and insulate politicians from such but then ExxonMobil wouldn't be the third most valuable company on the planet and we can't have that.

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Sep 6, 2006

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Shear Modulus posted:

do you think lots of high-profile democrats proudly saying they'll be happy to make gas and food and whatever else more expensive to help ukraine will be good at winning over swing voters

their options seem to be "being blamed for making poo poo more expensive" or "being blamed for making poo poo more expensive but at least have an excuse" so this is already significantly more savvy than average for them

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





LastInLine posted:

Am I missing something or would it not be more effective to simply subsidize the cost of gasoline directly? Granted I wouldn't say that's a good idea, but if you specifically wanted to reduce the final cost of fuel why not just force retail outlets to price the good at x and then pay the difference they're losing buying wholesale?

Obviously I understand that the reason is SOCIALISM but if you're going to do it there are easier ways.

Any functional government would've set up such a system years ago simply to curb financial shocks from fuel price volatility and insulate politicians from such but then ExxonMobil wouldn't be the third most valuable company on the planet and we can't have that.
it makes more sense if you start with the assumption that the oil companies are the ones directing policy.

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


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Palladium posted:

the kids are smarter than the adults

Kids these days aren’t rolling in lead puddles, eating paint chips and making playdoh snakes out of mercury

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