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mystes posted:oh-my-zsh is the worst name and that's saying a lot 
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Mar 25, 2022 01:26
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why yes, let me make my prompt absofuckinglutely unreadable by anyone and filling it with things i don't need when i'm working, so that i can be constantly distracted and not get any work done
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Mar 25, 2022 01:32
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mystes posted:oh-my-zsh is the worst name and that's saying a lot in an ideological software ecosystem that has software with names like gimp and mongo and whatever that one was that had to be renamed because it was a sex joke or whatever, yeah, oh-my-zsh is pretty loving egregious (not ironic)
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Mar 25, 2022 01:33
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oh-my-zsh is really annoying
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Mar 25, 2022 02:55
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code:
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Mar 25, 2022 03:04
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Last Chance posted:
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Mar 25, 2022 03:17
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Last Chance posted:
sooooo annoying
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Mar 25, 2022 03:45
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every time I've tried to switch to zsh I've run into the problem that I don't know how bash's start up scripts work and I also don't know how zsh's startup scripts work and also I don't give any fucks about which shell I'm using
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Mar 25, 2022 03:46
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give me vim and bash and I'm content to do most of my work some version control would also be nice
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Mar 25, 2022 04:57
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yeah, i never understood the "shell wars" either
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Mar 25, 2022 05:13
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I just use the grml zsh config with some light tweaks and it works pretty well and doesn't constantly bug me to update. Also the grml website makes me feel like I'm in the 90s again, which is nice.
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Mar 25, 2022 06:20
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okay my imposter syndrome is kicking in hard. without oh my zsh what is the actual difference between bash and zsh? do their scripts have different syntax ive never noticed? is it just autocomplete is better? help me out here
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Mar 25, 2022 06:24
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Why doesn’t anybody just turn off the auto-nag for OMZSH’s update prompt? 
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Mar 25, 2022 06:25
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Lady Radia posted:okay my imposter syndrome is kicking in hard. without oh my zsh what is the actual difference between bash and zsh? do their scripts have different syntax ive never noticed? is it just autocomplete is better? help me out here zsh does not have a viral license
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Mar 25, 2022 06:32
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quote:What is Oh My Zsh? I still don't know what this is but I'm certain it is made by and for assholes.
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Mar 25, 2022 08:11
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Lady Radia posted:okay my imposter syndrome is kicking in hard. without oh my zsh what is the actual difference between bash and zsh? do their scripts have different syntax ive never noticed? is it just autocomplete is better? help me out here lol, nice trap, hard to imagine anything more shameful than actually knowing the relative feature sets of zsh and bash
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Mar 25, 2022 09:02
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mystes posted:oh-my-zsh is the worst name and that's saying a lot haven't you ever heard the common turn of phrase "oh my zeesh?"
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Mar 25, 2022 09:52
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i tried installing oh-my-zsh once. "oh, neat colors. neat tab completion, i guess". then i cd'd to a folder that happened to be a git repo, and the shell froze for like 30 seconds doing god knows what. i confirmed that it happened every time and uninstalled it.
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Mar 25, 2022 10:07
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I've been collating and scanning documents to do taxes and I have to admit that gnome's document scanner works really well. It remember having to dump it annually for xsane because it wouldn't handle my dumbass canon all-in-one (which can't print anymore because something is dumping ink on the side of the page) but now it really handles everything like a dream. Normally, I would be scanning stuff into postscript pages and using command line tools to compose them into pdfs. Now, I just hit a few gui buttons and things just work and the resultant pdf is a svelte 200 kb instead of the 20 MB monstrosity it normally generates.
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Mar 25, 2022 10:17
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yummycheese posted:Debian still does that thing where if a hardware driver includes any copyrighted code in it. It wont be included in the distro/kernel that ships. So unless you know this ahead of time and what it takes to dig yourself out of this hole. You end up with newbies who install it and then wonder why sound/wifi/graphics dont work Every time I install Debian, I have to google this link: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ because I swear there is no way to get to it from the Debian homepage.
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Mar 25, 2022 10:43
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most of the oh-my-zsh themes are awful, but if you use a simple one you can still get the vi key bindings and all the nice autocomplete plugins and not have a bunch of irrelevant garbage on your screen
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Mar 25, 2022 13:19
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Fzf keybinds are a far bigger shell upgrade than whatever theme you choose
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Mar 25, 2022 13:35
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the other thing that makes me lol about Debian’s choice to ship firmware like that. its asking users to know what chipset their pc/laptop network cards are. which as a professional computer toucher i maybe know this off the top of my head for like one or two models of severs i work with regularly make me choose on a laptop and lol i have no idea. why would i need to know that
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Mar 25, 2022 13:43
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SmallWorriedNoise posted:Every time I install Debian, I have to google this link: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ you mean besides that fat yellow warning telling you to download the firmware tarball or iso from the link if the normal one doesn't work right, on all the download pages?
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Mar 25, 2022 13:48
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Amethyst posted:Fzf free zoftware foundation?
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Mar 25, 2022 13:52
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Lysidas posted:free zoftware foundation? No, this thing. It’s good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a5NiMhqAR0
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Mar 25, 2022 13:57
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'unno at that point you might just as well use a terminal file manager
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Mar 25, 2022 14:02
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matti posted:'unno at that point you might just as well use a terminal file manager Command history too. I do use ranger but fzf is faster and I use it more frequently.
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Mar 25, 2022 14:05
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i dont see how a youtube video is relevant to shell key bindings, but you do you i installed oh-my-zsh on a new mbp just to get stuff like showing the git branch and status (dirty working copy, ahead/behind remote tracking branch) without having to do that myself, and it was not trivial to pick a theme that i like, 'lukerandall' is close but i want the full path not just the last two components, havent tried to mess with that yet though because 
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Mar 25, 2022 14:08
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Lysidas posted:i dont see how a youtube video is relevant to shell key bindings, but you do you You incredibly stupid dumb arse
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Mar 25, 2022 14:11
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btw off-hand does anyone know which shell first implemented the vi and emacs editing modes (which include history search (not fuzzy))? i want to say ksh
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Mar 25, 2022 14:41
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i could leaf through some old manuals but i am lazy
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Mar 25, 2022 14:42
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NihilCredo posted:i tried installing oh-my-zsh once. "oh, neat colors. neat tab completion, i guess". then i cd'd to a folder that happened to be a git repo, and the shell froze for like 30 seconds doing god knows what. i confirmed that it happened every time and uninstalled it. All that stuff is already built into zsh, you just need to enable the capabilities in your shell config. The only thing you're really getting with oh-my-zsh are the stupid looking themes.
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Mar 25, 2022 15:26
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quote:In 1982, the UNIX System V shell was converted to K&R C, echo and https://www.oilshell.org/archive/ksh-usenix.pdf if someone else cares (doubtful)
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Mar 25, 2022 15:54
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matti posted:https://www.oilshell.org/archive/ksh-usenix.pdf if someone else cares (doubtful) I was introduced to that idea from ash as it existed in 4.4BSD Alpha. Nowadays, even the FreeBSD and NetBSD forks of Almquist shell support commandline completion of commands, not just paths. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Mar 25, 2022 16:22
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think the idea at&t had was STREAMS and well that did not work out
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Mar 25, 2022 16:28
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AnimeIsTrash posted:All that stuff is already built into zsh, you just need to enable the capabilities in your shell config. The only thing you're really getting with oh-my-zsh are the stupid looking themes. ya
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Mar 25, 2022 16:35
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Amethyst posted:No, this thing. It’s good That looks very good and thank you for sharing. Neat! I love how the foss community just has a hundred thousand folks just making things to solve a personal need, and just gifting it to the world at large. You end up with nine hundred separate tools that each solve one issue the specific user was having, but in different ways and offering a neat little set of features others might enjoy over someone else's work. There are a dozen shells. There are a dozen different GUIs. A dozen web music streamers you can self-host, and a half dozen of them share the same api set for comparability between the dozen Android clients (so you can be sure they all work), but this one is written in Go and this one is written in C while this one is written in Java. This one let's you use postgres and this one just has its little MySQL lite onboard. This self hosted cloud storage includes plugins and this one just works™. This GUI was built with Qt and don't you miss Qt? This init is 0.0034 seconds faster and it has a dancing frog graphic, try it out! It's so cool. Also a headache. If you like exploring and got the curiosity for it, it just makes for an ocean of cool to show a totally disinterested spouse. Some people collect cars.
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Mar 25, 2022 17:26
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A Bad King posted:
Pats *zsh* this bad boy can fit so much Plugins in it
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If Linux didn't exist, we might have finally seen a stable Hurd by '99. & Maybe Intel would have used it over minix for their CPU bootstrap. Makes you think.
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