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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

At least that German cursive looks like something

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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
What's fun with sloppy russian cursive as a non-native is that if you know the word, your brain can parse it, but with new words it's like, UUUUuumumUummuuUmuumu is that л, т, ц, ш, щ, п, и, т?? Who did this?????

Cyrillic printed is really easy to learn, but cursive is double plus confusing because there's poo poo like writing the т as m and the м as a fancier m. д (d) becomes g in cursive. It's too much!

Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 18, 2022

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

What's fun with sloppy russian cursive as a non-native is that if you know the word, your brain can parse it, but with new words it's like, UUUUuumumUummuuUmuumu is that л, т, ц, ш, щ, п, и, т?? Who did this?????

Cyrillic printed is really easy to learn, but cursive is double plus confusing because there's poo poo like writing the т as m and the м as a fancier m. д (d) becomes g in cursive. It's too much!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqaCEPwWGtc&t=5s

CrypticFox
Dec 19, 2019

"You are one of the most incompetent of tablet writers"

euphronius posted:

I don’t think anyone would have figured out hieroglyphs without the stone

Signs being a phonogram , logogram, or ideogram is some hosed up poo poo

I'm not sure that is necessarily true. Having a bilingual inscription helped, but it didn't solve the problem on its own. There was a lag period of about 20 years between the Rosetta Stone being brought back to England and major progress being made in decipherment. They figured out how to match up the names between the two Egyptian inscriptions and the Greek pretty fast, but after that, it took a long time for more progress to be made. A lot of the work ultimately had to be done with the hieroglyphs themselves. Several of the major breakthroughs that ultimately enabled decipherment also didn't come from the Rosetta Stone. One of the big ones was figuring out that Coptic was a descendent of the Ancient Egyptian language, and that could have been done without the Rosetta Stone existing.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-WO73Dh7rY

This autoplayed after and 1648 is well within the history of the Roman Empire so I'm dropping it

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006



Gallic Wars

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005


I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Deteriorata posted:

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.

Man that line sucked when it was everywhere, remember the nod to it in the opening of bioshock infinite

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Tulip posted:

Out of total curiosity, is there any resource for learning cuneiform other than either 1) going to grad school or 2) the hard way of reading tons of translated texts from the cuneiform database?

I guess this is for Sumerian specifically, but has resources useful for other languages using cuneiform too.

https://isaw.nyu.edu/library/blog/getting-started-with-sumerian

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016


Oooh that's gotta hoit!

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Welp, this sunday I will have phantom knee pain

I Love Loosies
Jan 4, 2013


Don't think that is the knee. Tibia maybe?

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Lead out in cuffs posted:

I guess this is for Sumerian specifically, but has resources useful for other languages using cuneiform too.

https://isaw.nyu.edu/library/blog/getting-started-with-sumerian

quote:

The traditional route to learning Sumerian is to learn Akkadian first.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Lead out in cuffs posted:

I guess this is for Sumerian specifically, but has resources useful for other languages using cuneiform too.

https://isaw.nyu.edu/library/blog/getting-started-with-sumerian

thank you!


lol

CrypticFox
Dec 19, 2019

"You are one of the most incompetent of tablet writers"
For Akkadian, you can find a good textbook available online for free here: https://www.academia.edu/234695/2011_A_Grammar_of_Akkadian_3rd_edition_. Here is the corresponding answer key for that book as well: https://www.academia.edu/234697/2013_Key_to_A_Grammar_of_Akkadian_3rd_edition_. This is probably a good place to start, since this book has a lot of exercises you can do as you go. Alternatively, if you want to jump into Sumerian, you could try using this book: https://www.amazon.com/Learn-Read-Ancient-Sumerian-Introduction/dp/1734358602, which has the advantage of being designed for self-study outside an academic environment.

spoon daddy
Aug 11, 2004
Who's your daddy?
College Slice
Speaking of Sumerian. Thought this was a good thread: https://twitter.com/LinManuelRwanda/status/1505646738627088389

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
Sumerian men wore skirts instead of pants and drank their beer from a long tube. I dont think that joke is that hard to figure out...

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Not sure if it's beyond the scope of this thread, but whoa. Neanderthal wooden tools.

https://twitter.com/johnhawks/status/1505985358034612225

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Yadoppsi posted:

Sumerian men wore skirts instead of pants and drank their beer from a long tube. I dont think that joke is that hard to figure out...

north americans had a weapon called the BAR, i don't think "a man walks into a bar. he says "ouch"!" is that hard to figure out...

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
^^Why so aggro? That joke works in English because of the homonyms bar and bar. If you know enough Sumerian to explain how its not a dick-sucking joke please explain. I'd love to know.

E)I see, its a pun on not seeing because it's dark/the dog should just open his eyes.

Yadoppsi fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Mar 23, 2022

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Yadoppsi posted:

^^Why so aggro? That joke works in English because of the homonyms bar and bar. If you know enough Sumerian to explain how its not a dick-sucking joke please explain. I'd love to know.

i am challenging an assumption you are making with a demonstration - you can combine perfectly accurate facts about a culture you missing context around (how they dressed/a name of a weapon) and make an educated guess based on actual facts that even could have an argument around (people like sex jokes/weapons hurt) and wind up completely wrong. if you read the full longform tweet that's exactly what this person is suggesting - another thing people really like and have always really liked are puns and wordplay, and they are as or more common than dick jokes. it would not take a removal of many pieces of context to make "a man walks into a bar" equally nonsensical to a non-english speaker.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Is Kopis at all related to Khopesh or is it just coincidence?

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Azza Bamboo posted:

Is Kopis at all related to Khopesh or is it just coincidence?

might be

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

spoon daddy posted:

Speaking of Sumerian. Thought this was a good thread: https://twitter.com/LinManuelRwanda/status/1505646738627088389

Yadoppsi posted:

Sumerian men wore skirts instead of pants and drank their beer from a long tube. I dont think that joke is that hard to figure out...

So one of the guests is about to get sucked off by a dog who has the guy's skirt over it's eyes and thinks he's on the beer tube.

Not bad.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

someone translated it as “ I can’t see a thing, I should Crack one open” and that’s chuckleworthy

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I do love ancient humour, especially the trash and the incomprehensible in-jokes. People are and have been the same all this time and everywhere in the world.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
...so Namluh gets sucked off by the dog, and starts to yell hysterically. He lifts his skirt, but lets out a sigh of relief.

"By Enki, for a second I thought it's your mother again. She's been going around the bars on all fours again lately."

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



There's a book of ancient Greek jokes out there, many of which still hold up because they're either making fun of Shelbyville and its stupid inhabitants or they're boomer jokes about their horrible wives.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

πάρε τη γυναίκα μου. σας παρακαλούμε

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Iirc there's some preserved graffiti in Pompeii that is essentially "I hosed your mum".

Timeless.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
etched into a railing at the hagia sophia is a thousand year old graffito in Norse runes saying the equivalent of "Halfdan was here"

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I think there's at least two separate runic inscriptions in the Hagia Sofia both are just "X wrote this" or "Y wuz here"

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.
The Temple of Dendur is displayed at the Metropolitan Museum in NYC, and one of the features of the otherwise stunning Roman-era Egyptian temple is that it has graffiti from a wide variety of time periods etched into it. There's Egyptian demotic graffiti from laborers just after the temple was founded in 10 BCE, there's Greek coptic graffiti from when it was briefly converted to a Christian church, and there's British english graffiti when it was discovered by European adventurers in the 19th century.

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/547802

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
I wonder if there's a PhD out there whose speciality is comparative historical cock-and-balls.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
PhD in PHDs

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Elissimpark posted:

I wonder if there's a PhD out there whose speciality is comparative historical cock-and-balls.

I’m sure of it.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Egypt had (has?) otters?

Bronze Otter Statue, Late Period or Ptolemaic Period Egypt (664–30 B.C.)

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Egypt had (has?) otters?

Bronze Otter Statue, Late Period or Ptolemaic Period Egypt (664–30 B.C.)


Aww :3:

This is the current range of the Eurasian otter.



There are other otters too, but this one would presumably overlap Ptolemaics back then.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
can someone remind me where this quote i remember comes from, i think it was a roman historian aristocrat bragging about the power of the empire. it's something like (might be prefaced with "back in the good old days"?) "a roman citizen could carry a pot of gold on their heads and walk from one end of the empire to the next without being hassled". i don't think it was literal but it was a way of them saying security was/used to be much better and roman prestige would keep all the other imperial subjects subjugated and cowed. i probably heard it on History of Rome.

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Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




These guys range as far north as Sudan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_clawless_otter

Given that they're still found in the Nile (just not as far north as the delta), I'd wonder if they might be a better candidate.

It seems to be a bit of a mystery, though, since Egypt does not have otters today.

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