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Gio
Jun 20, 2005


Thoguh posted:

In the last thread I'd posted a few times about some friends of ours that are very Open Biden post getting boosted last year. They had a vacation booked to the Dominican last December and when they found out they were pregnant they decided to go anyway because of course they did. Then in January she got COVID because they joined a bowling league because of course they did. She felt like poo poo for a week but it was a fairly "mild" case even though she couldn't really take any stuff to reduce the symptoms. Anyway, their next ultrasound showed the baby being smaller than it should be so last week they had a follow up with a specialist. The baby itself is like a week behind how big it's supposed to be but it's head is two weeks behind.

That's right mother fuckers. Zika. She's gotta get tested to see if she caught Zika in the Dominican.

And I can't yell at anyone about how these supposedly very smart people did all sorts of stupid poo poo while my wife and I sat our rear end at home for two years and don't let our baby see anyone outside of daycare besides the grandparents (though now that the weather is improving and cases are lower we plan on seeing some more people outside) because you can't say "I told you so" out loud in this situation so instead I"m posting about it.

lol jfc

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Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
to be clear I’m just asking to be pragmatic, bringing a zika kid into the world seems like needless pain and suffering

beyond the usual amount of course

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

NeonPunk posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/maxplanckpress/status/1507308961292247046

All those posters who wear goggles or protective eyewear are not overreacting. Fun thing is that this could also explain the hallucinations in some covid patients!

l o l

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


Koirhor posted:

to be clear I’m just asking to be pragmatic, bringing a zika kid into the world seems like needless pain and suffering

beyond the usual amount of course

lets not go there

E Depois do Adeus
Jun 3, 2012


Nobody has better respect for intelligence than Donald Trump.

Chamale posted:

I wrote about this in the last thread, this was my answer:

I would say the pandemic is over when covid kills and disables no more people than a typical flu season, and isn't at risk of coming back. Here are some ways that could happen:

1) Covid cases are brought to zero everywhere
2) A 100% effective vaccine that doesn't wear off is introduced
3) A highly effective cure is discovered that can be cheaply mass-produced
4) A cross-reactive variant with a very low fatality rate outcompetes all other variants (Omicron's fatality rate is ten times too high to be the "vaccine variant")
5) A major drought-induced famine happens and covid becomes the least of our problems

Thank you for including number 5 because if you try to place covid onto any sort of historical context (impossible I know without the benefit of hindsight) it's increasingly clear that this is the beginning of a new phase of global crisis. Western governments' crisis response capabilities are decreasing, not growing, even as the crises get bigger. The crises in question are, like covid, going to be a matter of numbers and physics that don't add up to any good outcome, and the ~material~ implications of these numbers are going to shape daily lives for the decades to come.

There will be more crises and people are sick of covid. However to really "end" the pandemic the replacing crisis must be either affecting daily life more than covid (coffee shortage anyone?) or have more spectacle (e.g. war). Otherwise it won't be enough to replace covid in the narrative space.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Coldrice posted:

it's probably one of our best Covid Thread OPs, all except the one thing you missed ;_;

And the next one will be even better :toot:

Learning to live with Covid thread ops

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

Louisgod posted:

this is why it needs a badass name, Rho is open to so many excellent puns.

Need to name them like really hot peppers. Stealth Omicron? No, Ghost variant. Save Reaper variant for the next one that really fucks you up

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Zugzwang posted:

It’s related to the virus’ ability to gently caress with your body’s antivirus response. :shepface:

but i have microsoft defender

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Dog Case posted:

Need to name them like really hot peppers. Stealth Omicron? No, Ghost variant. Save Reaper variant for the next one that really fucks you up

We'll just call that one reaper.2

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
I worry that those of us who still care are like the countries in Pacific Rim that were going to rely on their huge walls to keep the Kaiju out. Except of course that more and more Kaiju keep showing up, and they keep getting bigger and bigger. And we are constantly being told that Kaiju are normal and endemic, so it’s best to learn to love, laugh, and live with them.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 34 minutes!
Here's a paragraph straight out of hell:

"InstaMed, a J. P. Morgan company, released the Trends in Healthcare Payments Twelfth Annual Report - highlighting trends from the major industry stakeholders, consumers, providers, and payers. The report delves into the financial toll that the covid-19 pandemic has had on the healthcare ecosystem. Those realities have shed light on the need for providers and payers to prioritize and accelerate improvements to their payment processes."

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

Zugzwang posted:

I worry that those of us who still care are like the countries in Pacific Rim that were going to rely on their huge walls to keep the Kaiju out. Except of course that more and more Kaiju keep showing up, and they keep getting bigger and bigger. And we are constantly being told that Kaiju are normal and endemic, so it’s best to learn to love, laugh, and live with them.

i cant take any disaster movies seriously anymore

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Thoguh posted:

Yeah, everything is stupid and I'm really hoping it's just a minor pregnancy complication thing where the kid is a little small and maybe has to spend a few days in the NICU or something as a worst case scenario. It's just crazy how much people that are normally very reasonable have internalized the "it can't happen to me" mindset.

Same with her grandma - she's vaxxed and boosted and the CDC told her that means she doesn't need to wear a mask and that COVID is over so she did that and now she's sitting in the ER waiting to find out if she'd got COVID or if she just needs to take a course of antibiotics to clear out some pneumonia.

you’ve got to be pretty fuckin unlucky to be potentially the second person in the US go have a Zika baby

https://abc7ny.com/zika-baby-update-darah/11653836/

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

NeonPunk posted:

Oh Jesus great. Even more ORF3a mutations happening.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Unusual_Times/status/1507349734591242250

It is a pretty loving bad sign if the virus is starting to really explore ORF3a space for further evolution.

more like ORFa deez nuts

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Thoguh posted:

In the last thread I'd posted a few times about some friends of ours that are very Open Biden post getting boosted last year. They had a vacation booked to the Dominican last December and when they found out they were pregnant they decided to go anyway because of course they did. Then in January she got COVID because they joined a bowling league because of course they did. She felt like poo poo for a week but it was a fairly "mild" case even though she couldn't really take any stuff to reduce the symptoms. Anyway, their next ultrasound showed the baby being smaller than it should be so last week they had a follow up with a specialist. The baby itself is like a week behind how big it's supposed to be but it's head is two weeks behind.

That's right mother fuckers. Zika. She's gotta get tested to see if she caught Zika in the Dominican.

And I can't yell at anyone about how these supposedly very smart people did all sorts of stupid poo poo while my wife and I sat our rear end at home for two years and don't let our baby see anyone outside of daycare besides the grandparents (though now that the weather is improving and cases are lower we plan on seeing some more people outside) because you can't say "I told you so" out loud in this situation so instead I"m posting about it.

jesus loving christ how horrible

god drat

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Here's a paragraph straight out of hell:

"InstaMed, a J. P. Morgan company, released the Trends in Healthcare Payments Twelfth Annual Report - highlighting trends from the major industry stakeholders, consumers, providers, and payers. The report delves into the financial toll that the covid-19 pandemic has had on the healthcare ecosystem. Those realities have shed light on the need for providers and payers to prioritize and accelerate improvements to their payment processes."

fuuuuuuuck oh my God this made me so very mad

time to pet a cat and perhaps read something else for a bit until I'm less likely to spontaneously combust

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Palladium posted:

i cant take any disaster movies seriously anymore
Disaster movies where people want to solve the issue are looking like crime-related shows where the cops are not only the good guys, but competent

call_of_qthulhu
Nov 21, 2003


Fun Shoe

Thoguh posted:

That's right mother fuckers. Zika. She's gotta get tested to see if she caught Zika in the Dominican.

we still have zika educational signs up in galveston county because we have mosquitos year round and people that catch zika on on vacation can spread it here easier than other parts of the country with a short mosquito season.

she might have killed her baby. jfc

Zugzwang posted:

Zika is definitely still around; it just isn’t reported on as much.

That's because zika is endemic to poorer nations currently. It’s not a US problem. Basically what the cdc et al are trying to do to covid

anyway if the person in the op actually has zika they might have to quarantine if yall are in a mosquito prone region

edit: i take no pleasure in talking about zika or its effects on fetuses. i saw zika roll over my community and probably caught it myself. i wasn't directly affected because i am not/was not pregnant at the time. it was not fun knowing that if i forgot my mosquito spray i could effectively sentance someone else's fetus to death and i still find stashed bug spray

very similar to what's going on now, see the 2026 surgical mask tiktok but sub bug spray

call_of_qthulhu has issued a correction as of 17:33 on Mar 25, 2022

tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 363 days!

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Here's a paragraph straight out of hell:

"InstaMed, a J. P. Morgan company, released the Trends in Healthcare Payments Twelfth Annual Report - highlighting trends from the major industry stakeholders, consumers, providers, and payers. The report delves into the financial toll that the covid-19 pandemic has had on the healthcare ecosystem. Those realities have shed light on the need for providers and payers to prioritize and accelerate improvements to their payment processes."

like how does one not become a stochastic terrorist in minecraft after reading this stuff

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Here's a paragraph straight out of hell:

"InstaMed, a J. P. Morgan company, released the Trends in Healthcare Payments Twelfth Annual Report - highlighting trends from the major industry stakeholders, consumers, providers, and payers. The report delves into the financial toll that the covid-19 pandemic has had on the healthcare ecosystem. Those realities have shed light on the need for providers and payers to prioritize and accelerate improvements to their payment processes."
:staredog:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 34 minutes!

tenderjerk posted:

like how does one not become a stochastic terrorist in minecraft after reading this stuff

buddy, imagine the horrible poo poo I don't post here because it can be traced back to me

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Here's a paragraph straight out of hell:

"InstaMed, a J. P. Morgan company, released the Trends in Healthcare Payments Twelfth Annual Report - highlighting trends from the major industry stakeholders, consumers, providers, and payers. The report delves into the financial toll that the covid-19 pandemic has had on the healthcare ecosystem. Those realities have shed light on the need for providers and payers to prioritize and accelerate improvements to their payment processes."

if there's one thing we've learned from all this, it's that we have to figure out how to make sure we get more money from these dying people

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002


wanna see a pic of those paxlovids in the medicine cabinet so I can manifest my own

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

empty whippet box posted:

if there's one thing we've learned from all this, it's that we have to figure out how to make sure we get more money from these dying people

“but what if we monetize the rot?”

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

empty whippet box posted:

if there's one thing we've learned from all this, it's that we have to figure out how to make sure we get more money from these dying people
Claim denied due to the pre-existing condition of having ACE2 receptors

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde
that uk news is a big yikes

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Zugzwang posted:

I was definitely wondering how life insurance companies were going to absorb the 40% increase in claims from young people…

by cutting coverage and payouts by 80% and doubling premiums, op

Runaway Trashbot
Mar 13, 2022

by Games Forum
COVID just keeps getting worse

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 34 minutes!
The CDC is pushing that joke comorbidity chart as a way to say dying of covid is actually your fault and I wouldn't be surprised if the life insurance industry found a way to wrangle it into a way to deny covid claims.

"He was 55 years old, a former smoker, drank two beers a day, and was over 180 lbs. He committed suicide, sorry."

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Iron Crowned posted:

Just wait until your hair starts thinning up front :smith:

already has, but I have enough to kinda sorta cover it up atm. enjoying it while I can

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

mawarannahr posted:

you’ve got to be pretty fuckin unlucky to be potentially the second person in the US go have a Zika baby

https://abc7ny.com/zika-baby-update-darah/11653836/

She doesn't know yet, she has to find out because the baby has a small head, I have no idea how long the turnaround on something like that is or what the odds are that it's that vs some other birth defect that's unrelated vs a scary but ultimately not a big deal thing. It's just the fact that it's now even something that has entered the conversation that's loving wild but also a direct result of decisions they had control over.

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة
every unmasked face is a gun pointing at me and every smiling jackass is saying "don't worry it's not loaded"

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Strep Vote posted:

every unmasked face is a gun pointing at me and every smiling jackass is saying "don't worry it's not loaded"

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

Strep Vote posted:

every unmasked face is a gun pointing at me and every smiling jackass is saying "don't worry it's not loaded"

Look those guns have "less lethal" rounds in them what more do you want

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
don't worry, it's not zika. it's probably just some so-far unknown horrific effect of covid, which means it's absolutely nothing to worry about at all. imagine the relief that mother will feel when she's told that her baby had comorbidities, so their disfigurement and or death was far milder than it could have been if it weren't covid

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Strep Vote posted:

every unmasked face is a gun pointing at me and every smiling jackass is saying "don't worry it's not loaded"

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

wanna see a pic of those paxlovids in the medicine cabinet so I can manifest my own

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.
Lots of people on work Slack saying they are sick with "allergies" and reporting negative antigen tests.

It's been said a million times, but the strategy of relying on those tests was genius political theater. Millions of false negatives and most of the pozzes won't even show up in the official stats.

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

olives black posted:

already has, but I have enough to kinda sorta cover it up atm. enjoying it while I can

With the right outfit i think a skullet could be wasteland as gently caress

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Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

The CDC is pushing that joke comorbidity chart as a way to say dying of covid is actually your fault and I wouldn't be surprised if the life insurance industry found a way to wrangle it into a way to deny covid claims.

"He was 55 years old, a former smoker, drank two beers a day, and was over 180 lbs. He committed suicide, sorry."
This thread’s pessimistic projections about the CDC have a depressingly strong track record, so,

We need a Poe’s Law equivalent for stuff the CDC says/does.

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