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Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

They updated it where if you manage your pledge and just pick the same reward you did, you can fiddle with the add-ons. Instructions are under Update 8, I think, and it does the math for you

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Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




Robviously posted:

They updated it where if you manage your pledge and just pick the same reward you did, you can fiddle with the add-ons. Instructions are under Update 8, I think, and it does the math for you

Ah most excellent, thank you! I didn't read any of the updates, so... yup :nexus:

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Top 16 decklists for Marchesa:


Pod 1.
1. @Koibito - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8S1pM1DF5Eao_yXJKqnvHQ

2. @Paulzors - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/bDCEvFog5UaXRrfGK9Vkfg

3. @Glesty - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/SEfe9g2AUEOh0aN9CTJDfA

4. @Megadude - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/4iKDJeIdFE-9eMspWU3P5Q


Pod 2.
1. @LegendKyel - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1DtlXbIQMkOENpM-0ExPtA

2. @Altun7 - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AOJJWw_EuUW9pXQSfHoakA

3. @Madmatt222 - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/tqMvOVksB0-1aYvFezWeWA

4. @Sickrobot - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/6jKCl_WvaE6qrIgb1cxg0g


Pod 3.
1. @Mono-White Guy - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/CMNMqOyx3kCltyA8SsxbQg

2. @ComedIan - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/KBeRNC1PZ0m0Vj6Yq1-Nag

3. @Just Cal - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/3cMUBwbkFU2CVL9UG0skCQ

4. @Puddah - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/foFIr02y-0yVZYWTdnZfkQ


Pod 4.
1. @riley, Player of decks - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/guhHhIDi8EmCPfEebltXFA

2. @PhyrexianTutor - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/12bSHZbcG0W8eEI0TuiOyg

3. @KhaoticSpark - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/6jUjKPFPL0u6zJlGed7HNA

4. @Rebell - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/NvprIXmEnUmJFuMzALnqKw

What's the lore behind going Kraum Armix over Kraum Tymna? Just to eat Stax pieces?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Charles making top 16 with bad Heliod makes me so mad, I can’t stand that guy and that Heliod SUCKS. Magda in top seed is so wild, and seeing more Thrasios than Tymna is unexpected

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Bust Rodd posted:

Charles making top 16 with bad Heliod makes me so mad, I can’t stand that guy and that Heliod SUCKS. Magda in top seed is so wild, and seeing more Thrasios than Tymna is unexpected

I haven’t played much against/with Magda but it seems like a good meta call right? Reasonably fast and can play under a RoL?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I think it’s a good call because Marchesa was always going to be a small handful of Turbo Naus players wading into a swamp of HELLSTAX and Magda not only plays through Stax but she’s also like Edric, she’s just a straight up cEDH Aggro deck. People have never sleeved up fewer Deluges/Rifts/Covenants, literally every single cEDH content creator agrees we should all be running more spot removal and artifact hate… but that would entail cutting our powerful creatures and mana rocks, and those are the FUN cards!

I imagine a lot of games are gonna end with Stax players protecting their pieces and countering removal while a bunch of otherwise unplayable dwarves swing in for 16, make 5 treasures and just hold up deflecting swat or REB while they beat everyone to death. And honestly, that sounds like a really awesome format to me, lol!

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

It helps that I have a good group, but CEDH has been the most fun I’ve had with magic in a long rear end time. Excuse me while I add all these Magda pieces to a TCGPlayer cart

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Bust Rodd posted:

I think it’s a good call because Marchesa was always going to be a small handful of Turbo Naus players wading into a swamp of HELLSTAX and Magda not only plays through Stax but she’s also like Edric, she’s just a straight up cEDH Aggro deck. People have never sleeved up fewer Deluges/Rifts/Covenants, literally every single cEDH content creator agrees we should all be running more spot removal and artifact hate… but that would entail cutting our powerful creatures and mana rocks, and those are the FUN cards!

I imagine a lot of games are gonna end with Stax players protecting their pieces and countering removal while a bunch of otherwise unplayable dwarves swing in for 16, make 5 treasures and just hold up deflecting swat or REB while they beat everyone to death. And honestly, that sounds like a really awesome format to me, lol!

Lmao, this legitimately made me laugh.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
If I hadn’t bruteforced multiple cEDH playgroups into existence then I would have quit magic TBH. cEDH also reinvigorated my love of deckbuilding, which is the only thing keeping me playing casual commander anymore, just seeing if my brews hold up.
It’s like getting to play with legacy cards except I get to hang out with 3 of my friends at once instead of just 1. cEDH fuckin slaps.

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Why do you guys think this Magda deck is on this Dragon line instead of the Pyrite Spellbomb line?

That was a cool game. Winning on your end step on top of a Curse of Silence lol. It's also good to know that people accidentally kingmaking by blowing up relevant stax pieces at bad times happens at the absolute highest tier of play.

fadam fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 27, 2022

TheLawinator
Apr 13, 2012

Competence on the battlefield is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that.

This proves that Sheldon was right, you don't need og duals to play.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
https://twitter.com/monarchmediatw/status/1508182549192871937?s=21&t=DJbLBkhk87DamzbGIMTyMw

Uh Maggie my dear are u ok? Who hurt you?

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

TheLawinator posted:

This proves that Sheldon was right, you don't need og duals to play.

Thread just keeps delivering the lols.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
drat dawg I’m gonna fly out for Marchesa next year that poo poo looks dope as hell

Balon
May 23, 2010

...my greatest work yet.
Next weeks Mind Sculptors episode is going to be intense after what we just saw haha

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Heliodishly:

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
Are there any vods of these games? want to see koibito's deck in motion.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

I still throw up every time I remember that Inalla game someone linked.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

fadam posted:

Top 16 decklists for Marchesa:
1. @Koibito - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8S1pM1DF5Eao_yXJKqnvHQ

This deck here made me pee my pants laughing. Why? Because of this card:



Is this a bomb? No. Is this a good card? No. It's terrible. It's one of the worst cards ever. Dwarven Trader is worse than Mons Goblin Raiders, which is worse than another card in the very same set, Goblin Balloon Brigade.

And yet this card was played in a famous deck: Jay Schneider's Sligh Deck. Now, over 25 years later, Dwarven Trader gets pulled out of the bulk common box and finds a place in another winning deck.

Magic is kinda weird sometimes.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Beating $10k decks to death with a vanilla 1/1 for R is the most powerful thing you can do in Magic the Gathering.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
I think people underestimate exactly how powerful simply being 1 CMC is. Especially if your commander can easily apply a lot more advantages to it, like that dwarf.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Koibito did more for mono-color cEDH in one day than half a dozen completely busted commanders have done in the last 5 years. Some of the biggest creators in the game were laughing and doubting this was even a viable deck.

Basically get wrekt snobs!

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


The Shortest Path posted:

Beating $10k decks to death with a vanilla 1/1 for R is the most powerful thing you can do in Magic the Gathering.

Yep, the best thing in Magic is anytime someone busts out something that is completely out of left field, wrecks shop, and demonstrates ways to shake up the meta. I love this kind of stuff. I'm going to go look lovingly at my own lovely copy of Dwarven Trader now.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

TotalHell posted:

Yep, the best thing in Magic is anytime someone busts out something that is completely out of left field, wrecks shop, and demonstrates ways to shake up the meta. I love this kind of stuff. I'm going to go look lovingly at my own lovely copy of Dwarven Trader now.

Soldier of Fortune 4 lyfe. Get hosed with all your tutoring and reshuffling your deck and cycling and scrying. :unsmigghh:

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

MaRo's teaser post about the next set. Maybe there will be something that sounds spicy: https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/679986109173956608/maros-streets-of-new-capenna-teaser

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
“Multiple white cards capable of drawing a card each turn”



hmmmmmmm

Party Miser
Apr 1, 2011
I've drawn a lot of aggro with my magda deck, but it's pretty obvious you don't want to let me start accruing treasures as fast as i do. i still need to slot mean stuff like blood moon and sulfuric buttered in to go with my innocent seven seven dwarves.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I mistakenly thought the Magda player was Brazilian, but Koibito is apparently from Oregon and his Magda list is just the traditional Brazilian Magda list with some minor spice (the hellkites)

Here is their social media, it’s very small.

https://twitter.com/rgt_clubhouse?s=21&t=mMJwLkfiu8xb3kDzribQDA

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

That new esper charm looking real spicy for commander. 3 mana might be a bit steep but it's such a versatile spell.

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L

Dizz posted:

I think next week i will buy a pack of Katana sleeves and then compare them to Dragon Shields and Ultra Pro Eclipse.

it seems like Katanas are nearly identical to Eclipse sleeves in terms of size, unsure on quality or transparency though.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Dizz posted:

it seems like Katanas are nearly identical to Eclipse sleeves in terms of size, unsure on quality or transparency though.

Gotta shuffle 100 times and see if they knick/dent easily.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
42 Tweet thread about why 3rd place in Top 16 of Marchessa doesn’t run Sol Ring

https://twitter.com/ilvaldi/status/1508603750537220099?s=21&t=57yG43zLt7Upv4ZpfndLTw

There’s a tweetlonger that condenses it into merely a term paper about planning your turns out.

Full disclosure I think Charles sleeps with a CPAP machine hooked up to a tank of his own farts and he is INSUFFERABLE to listen to talk about how good he is at magic, but everyone in the scene is convinced that he is a genius and here is some insight into his deckbuilding process.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Bust Rodd posted:

42 Tweet thread about why 3rd place in Top 16 of Marchessa doesn’t run Sol Ring

https://twitter.com/ilvaldi/status/1508603750537220099?s=21&t=57yG43zLt7Upv4ZpfndLTw

There’s a tweetlonger that condenses it into merely a term paper about planning your turns out.

Full disclosure I think Charles sleeps with a CPAP machine hooked up to a tank of his own farts and he is INSUFFERABLE to listen to talk about how good he is at magic, but everyone in the scene is convinced that he is a genius and here is some insight into his deckbuilding process.

Is this the dude whose Heliod deck you were mad about?

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Yes, this is Charles AKA The Mono-White Guy, and he plays bad Heliod. I can stomach all sorts of stuff in my Content, but the specific way Charles blows smoke up his own butthole about how he is subversive genius who sees things before anyone else and is always 10 steps ahead of the meta and blah blah blah. I guess he wrote for CFB or SCG or whatever but any episode of Mindsculptors with him is an instant skip.

The real shame is that he has a podcast with Michael Levine, who is one of my favorite players and the originator of GOOD Heliod, my favorite deck. I would’ve killed for a podcast with Michael, but his cohost is basically the one person besides Saffron Olive who could kill it dead for me.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Bust Rodd posted:

Yes, this is Charles AKA The Mono-White Guy, and he plays bad Heliod. I can stomach all sorts of stuff in my Content, but the specific way Charles blows smoke up his own butthole about how he is subversive genius who sees things before anyone else and is always 10 steps ahead of the meta and blah blah blah. I guess he wrote for CFB or SCG or whatever but any episode of Mindsculptors with him is an instant skip.

The real shame is that he has a podcast with Michael Levine, who is one of my favorite players and the originator of GOOD Heliod, my favorite deck. I would’ve killed for a podcast with Michael, but his cohost is basically the one person besides Saffron Olive who could kill it dead for me.

What are the card choice differences between BAD and GOOD Heliod?

Aranan
May 21, 2007

Release the Kraken
Well the main one is the version of Heliod.

The more common deck uses Heliod, Sun Crowned because it's a one-card combo with Walking Ballista. Charles runs Heliod, God of the Sun instead.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Not gonna lie, even though I'm not well verse in cEDH I can still tell some of these card choices are trash, lmao

E:

Okay, this seems so loving extra, lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9YpJK8_egM

Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Mar 30, 2022

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L
so how did the bad heliod deck make it so far?

berenzen
Jan 23, 2012

Heliod plays really well into hellstax that's trying to fight turbonaus and thrasios piles.

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pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Dizz posted:

so how did the bad heliod deck make it so far?

It’s a multiplayer game so people playing obviously sub optimal cards are less threatening and people have really poor threat assessment especially vs decks they don’t understand.

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