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3090 Ti reviews are apparently dropping today. The MSRP of the Founders Edition will be $2000, and apparently some stock is expected at Best Buy? Not sure if that stock will show up today or later this week. Don't buy it lmao AIB cards will be $2500+ most likely. This is Nvidia taking the bad press for a $2000+ GPU now so that people are more accepting of the much-better-performing 4090 when it launches at the same price later this year. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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MS says direct storage will also free up the CPU. I think they mean throughout, not just during load times.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_2kXeChCw from last week
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Mar 29, 2022 11:54
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Peachfart posted:I just want a 3060ti at msrp, because my poor old 970 is falling behind/getting really old. it was the white whale at launch but that's for sure shifted to the 3080 now. keep looking, some are our there
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Mar 29, 2022 13:38
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Does $999 count as three-digit? https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080vision-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932460?Item=N82E16814932460&quicklink=true That is really tempting. Puts my total build at well under $2,500 after tax & shipping.
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apparently the brand new 600w power connector is already not enough for the ultra high end meme cards https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1508785551473848328
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3090 Ti just dropped at Scan, £1,879 
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Mar 29, 2022 14:01
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aaand it's already sold out edit: oh they have FEs in stock still if you go via nvidia https://www.scan.co.uk/nvidia/products/3090ti/ythgn89iikthd bargain
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE8ssnSqgZg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDcA0c-Ahq0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWS9G2WT42Q Plus four different AIB reviews from TPU I won't link individually: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
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i see steve is taking up weightlifting
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repiv posted:aaand it's already sold out My understanding is that nvidia is making this one in very small quantities. The binning was more difficult than anticipated and ultimately it's just meant to be a chart topper in rasterization benchmarks in an attempt to stave off the 6950. edit: there are some in stock at newegg: https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce...&quicklink=true https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce...&quicklink=true
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i was looking at AIB models, scan haven't sold out of FEs yet if someone desperately wants to spend that much on a graphical card
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:edit: there are some in stock at newegg: "Includes eLeash" The eLeash:  lmao that support brackets are now a part of gpu marketing.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:My understanding is that nvidia is making this one in very small quantities. The binning was more difficult than anticipated and ultimately it's just meant to be a chart topper in rasterization benchmarks in an attempt to stave off the 6950. so is it actually a proto-4000 series card, or did that turn out wrong?
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Rinkles posted:so is it actually a proto-4000 series card, or did that turn out wrong? The theory is that the board design is a prototype for top-end 40-series cards. The GPU itself is still just GA102, the same GPU that the 3090, 3080 Ti, and 3080 (10gb and 12gb) use. The theory about the board design won't be proven true or untrue until the 40-series actually comes out. edit: Some people think that this may be a test-bed for 4090 coolers too, but idk, there's a very big difference between 450W and 600W, if that second figure turns out to be true.
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it's a very plausible theory, it's hard to see why every AIB would go to the trouble of designing brand new boards for this ultra-niche product this late in the generation but if it's true that AD102 is pin-compatible with GA102 then these exact board designs will get used again for the 4080/4090
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repiv posted:it's a very plausible theory, it's hard to see why every AIB would go to the trouble of designing brand new boards for this ultra-niche product this late in the generation True, and this also goes for the coolers since everyone seems to be using new, bigger heatsinks, even though I said I doubt it's for the 4090. But maybe the 4090 will be "just" 500W (the leaks all do give a range).
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According HU's Steve, Nvidia is still pushing that ridiculous 8K gaming marketing line
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seems more sensible than the front+back design of earlier cards of course, that's a heck of a lot of densely packed heat to move https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1508792019459715074
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didn't they have to put VRAM on the back originally because 2GB G6X modules weren't a thing yet
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Rinkles posted:According HU's Steve, Nvidia is still pushing that ridiculous 8K gaming marketing line “Gaming in resolutions that you can’t buy a monitor for yet” -Nvidia marketing dept
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:“Gaming in resolutions that you can’t buy a monitor for yet” turn on DSR and set your 4k monitor to run an 8k downscaled image to eliminate jaggies OBVIOUSLY
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You would need a 50" monitor and sit 3-4 feet away to actually benefit, how many pc setups are like that?
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you know it never until this moment struck me what an incentive GPU companies have to push eternally impractical resolutions, lol
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Collateral posted:You would need a 50" monitor and sit 3-4 feet away to actually benefit, how many pc setups are like that? Hey, that is how far I sit from my 55" TV I game on all the time!
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The $2k GPU hit is so the electrician doesn’t look expensive.
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https://twitter.com/ComputerBase/status/1508810661056364556?t=d1ts2UMiUcot14EefrLLNw&s=19 Fractal are about to sell a lot of Torrents
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repiv posted:https://twitter.com/ComputerBase/status/1508810661056364556?t=d1ts2UMiUcot14EefrLLNw&s=19 this site does meticulous cooler reviews, btw
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Pushing 8k makes absolutely no sense. We're at least a decade away from being able to consistently do 4k 240hz, and until we can push that I DEFINITELY have no interest in higher resolution. Nvidia's sunk all this effort into pushing high refresh and low latency, they should keep sticking to it.
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it's not like nvidia is actually wasting any effort on making 8k happen, they already had DLSS and all they did is add an extra preset for 1440p->8K scaling their marketing people just really want to promote it for some reason
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The end goal is not practicality, it's to thrust the consumer video card market into the same realm as the audio market, wherein consumers overpay for diminishing returns that are not perceptible to human biology They have assessed, imo correctly, that their hobbyist userbase has the means and desire to overpay for more pixels
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Where do those diminishing returns start showing up? I have a 1060 i'd like to replace but I'm not sure what to get. My instinct was to finally buy a card that was better than the normal mid-range I go for, but is something like a 3080 TI a waste of money? Obviously I'm not getting a 3090 TI
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Not a Children posted:The end goal is not practicality, it's to thrust the consumer video card market into the same realm as the audio market, wherein consumers overpay for diminishing returns that are not perceptible to human biology The end goal is just more performance, and I don't think nvidia cares what you're using it for. If they think they can hook the few rich people with 8K TVs by marketing 8K for the 3090, then they will, but marketing is all it is. What console manufacturers push has a far greater impact on the gaming industry. Sony and MS's decision to push the 4K angle on the PS4 Pro and XBox One X was horribly idiotic and disruptive. PoopShipDestroyer posted:Where do those diminishing returns start showing up? I have a 1060 i'd like to replace but I'm not sure what to get. My instinct was to finally buy a card that was better than the normal mid-range I go for, but is something like a 3080 TI a waste of money? Obviously I'm not getting a 3090 TI The difference between the 3080 Ti and the 3080 10GB is about 12 - 15% more performance for 45% higher price when going by the current newegg prices. So that's where the diminishing returns really kicks in.
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EoRaptor posted:I'm less confident. Nvidia has learned people will pay high prices for a GPU, and that will be reflected in what they offer to OEM's. I re-read back to the 22nd to make sure I hadn't glossed over this lovely slide from last week's investor thing:  Jeff Fisher, Senior Vice Present NVIDIA (as quoted by PC Mag) posted:Looking into the millions of desktop GeForce gamers who we know have upgraded their GPU to a 30-series, they are buying up... The GPU is offering more value than ever. Based on our data, they are spending $300 more than they paid for the graphics card they replaced... $300? I guess that's true if you only count people who had already overpriced 2xxx/Turing cards, but considering they specifically reference how many people still use GTX cards, I'm going to assume that isn't the case. It's true for people who went from like 1060 to 3060 and basically no one else. It was about $350 more for me to upgrade from a $400 GTX 980 ti to a $750 RTX 3080, which is a price that very few people were able to take advantage of. If someone bought a non-Founders Edition 3080 any time in the past 15 months, it's more like $500-600 more than their previous card cost, in all likelihood. Prices done hosed forever.
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PoopShipDestroyer posted:Where do those diminishing returns start showing up? I have a 1060 i'd like to replace but I'm not sure what to get. My instinct was to finally buy a card that was better than the normal mid-range I go for, but is something like a 3080 TI a waste of money? Obviously I'm not getting a 3090 TI it sort of depends on what you're playing, and what your monitor is / how far you want to push it, but at least for this generation the "sweet spot" of price-to-performance is the 3060Ti (assuming at or close to MSRP)
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People are loving morons and just shouting 8K at the top of your lungs over and over will move units. My dad was getting a new tv and kept asking, 8k? 8k? Walk away from whoever is talking to you about 8k, dad. I think enthusiasts know the 8k is bad, it's the underinformed that are the target with that marketing.
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gradenko_2000 posted:it sort of depends on what you're playing, and what your monitor is / how far you want to push it, but at least for this generation the "sweet spot" of price-to-performance is the 3060Ti (assuming at or close to MSRP) I do have a 4k monitor but I don't think its one of those 120 mhz ones. Does the 3060 TI do okay with 4k?
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DebonaireD posted:it's the underinformed that are the target with that marketing. That’s the target of all marketing, really. The people that are informed will make their purchase decisions based on that information, not marketing.
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I guess because it's easier to push 8k to people on 60hz screens than it is to push 240hz to people on 60hz screens. People are indeed loving stupid.
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PoopShipDestroyer posted:I do have a 4k monitor but I don't think its one of those 120 mhz ones. Does the 3060 TI do okay with 4k? 3080 would be what i recommend. 4k60 is a little much for a 3070ti unless you make settings compromises.
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Cygni posted:That’s the target of all marketing, really. The people that are informed will make their purchase decisions based on that information, not marketing. No, I'm pretty sure marketing works on informed people, too. I bought a 3d tv, man.
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