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Gazprom offices targeted in EU antitrust raids - sourcequote:Russian gas company Gazprom's (GAZP.MM) offices were raided by EU antitrust regulators, a person familiar with the matter said on Wednesday, as the EU watchdog ramped up its investigation into the company's gas supplies to Europe.
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I didn't realize that nuclear payloads for Su-24 were even a thing.
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alex314 posted:Also regarding violent sex crimes - to this day my wife's grandma claims Germans* were better than Russians* during WW2. She was probably around 10 in 1944, but you can easily guess why someone living in the right bank of Vistula could have a lifelong burning hatred for Russians* after having Red Army front stay there for about 6 months. My great grandmother was never comfortable talking about that period, but she made clear what she thought of the soviet "liberation" forces. The other side of my mother's family was sent to Siberia.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:. Just some random Google search. Now I see one result for 56k RUB and other for 110k RUB.
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Cicero posted:In terms of Russian capabilities it's not really any different is it? They were never gonna conventionally invade Finland or Sweden, all they could do was threaten nukes, which is the same thing they can do now. But yeah it would've been even less likely to straight up invade Finald of course. Still, their ability to do anything, even if it's just posturing, is significantly weakened, they're in the poo poo diplomatically and economically. If it will "ruin the relationship" as I've heard, now it can't ruin in much further. Plus it will help Ukraine by making russia spend energy on getting mad over it, which would be nice, or even perhaps moving some forces north.
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Willo567 posted:Finland and Sweden are NATO countries Finland is not in NATO Edit: Neither is Sweden.
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Willo567 posted:Finland and Sweden are NATO countries They're NOTO
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Willo567 posted:Finland and Sweden are NATO countries No.
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Willo567 posted:Finland and Sweden are NATO countries They're NATO-affiliated, have some agreements, and attend a lot of the meetings but they are not officially in NATO. That would be why Denmark and Norway are saying that they'd support them joining, and the Finnish government has been floating the plan to join since a couple weeks after the war began.
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My bad, I thought they were
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Willo567 posted:My bad, I thought they were It's definitely an 'pretty much everything but article 5 protection' situation but that protection becomes a lot more appealing when Russia starts a shooting war. Also Zelenskyy spoke with Biden this morning - official read out below: https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1509210223688527876?s=20&t=-mm5MsGd_SGAzi6FzN_chg
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Deteriorata posted:Companies found breaching EU antitrust rules face fines up to 10% of their global turnover. Gazprom dodged a fine in 2018 after agreeing to reform its pricing arrangements and pave the way for rivals in eastern Europe following an investigation. hah, jokes on you EU, 10% of their turnover in rubles is about 50 bux.
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Videos that make you go  https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1509212495029977089?t=aRDsbfd44qVCsd6BzAcr9A&s=19
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:You're projecting something there that you do to some people in this thread, not just me. So, the opening prompt was: Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:Only that not everybody is a beep boop computer and would probably understand a rule that would exclude certain areas for X amount of years or similar. with a rebel yell she QQd posted:I think they are referring to the time when in 2004 when Hungary and others joined the EU, a lot of the older EU countries restricted the newer members citizens from applying for jobs. I for example was not allowed to work in France but was allowed to work in the UK etc. I was pretty pissed at the time, being treated as a "second class EU citizen". Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:Yes, that’s what I meant. Emphasis mine. I misunderstood what exactly was your EU argument, and pointed out that it's not an exception to the rules that Latvian non-citizens do not enjoy full privileges of EU citizens. That is something I hear quite frequently when people argue that the EU goes out of its way to mistreat its Eastern European members. You then clarified what was your EU argument, and for that clarified example my opinion is identical, that EU is not full of exceptions where they mistreat Eastern European member states. To that end, I pointed out that a transition period is a transition period by design. Hence, what is normal and what is an exception in a transition period should be measured against other transition periods, and not the final state the transition leads towards. Your points about NATO, Ukraine? I wasn't talking about them at all, I just chimed in about EU treatment of Eastern European member states.
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Have the Swedes weighed in recently? Last I heard was the Swedish PM saying this https://twitter.com/HKaaman/status/1501218920035926021?s=20&t=aWerlVipVI3RVAMgaZ3Y3w
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alex314 posted:Just some random Google search. Now I see one result for 56k RUB and other for 110k RUB. I can tell you from Rosstat data that for April 2021 the gross monthly income for Russia was 40k median, 56k average. 110k could be average for St. Petersburg or Moscow.
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KitConstantine posted:Videos that make you go
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SpiritOfLenin posted:it should be noted that this guy is notorious for talking poo poo on twitter, and a member of the finnish far right (i'm not fully certain why he is the head of the foreign affairs committee, but he is in the opposition, not in the government. its an advisory body as far as I've understood it). however, it certainly seems like finland is on the cusp of sending an application to join NATO based on the general mood among the people and the political parties - earlier today the president stated in an interview, that he thinks the general opinion among finns is provably that we would want to go to NATO right now based on multiple recent gallups, so a referendum wouldn't be necessary, and that he thinks two thirds of our parliament would vote for joining NATO right now. Well, the fact that a True Finn representative is pro NATO is rather notable, since they, like most Euro far right parties, including our Swedish one, has been NATO sceptics. We start to see the same switch for the Swedish Democrats here, as they try and clean their pro Putin image off.
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Man these new Russian takes are just wonderful : Jews funded the Nazis. Good stuff all around glad to see the TRUTH is finally being revealed
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Crow Buddy posted:It is incredibly scary that we are this level of cultural/political missing context between some of our nuclear capable societies. (And if Russia has pegged us THIS wrong, have we similarly pegged them wrong too?) Yeah, the impression I'm getting right now is that there really isn't much coherent organization on the Russian side at all. It's just a bunch of different competing interests all trying to throw their weight around and impress Putin, but Putin seems super isolated and it's not clear he understands what's going on in any realistic way. If I were gonna bet on a successor I'd bet kadyrov.
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Nessus posted:So why does Putin love this stout maniac so much? Was this entire war his idea? He keeps internal politics of Chechnya under control - that’s the full utility of Kadyrov, except for I guess some token assassinations where FSB getting caught could constitute bad decorum. Hieronymous Alloy posted:If I were gonna bet on a successor I'd bet kadyrov. Kadyrov won’t survive the night after Putin dies in mysterious circumstances, he’s loathed by the rest of elite.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:He keeps internal politics of Chechnya under control - that’s the full utility of Kadyrov, except for I guess some token assassinations where FSB getting caught could constitute bad decorum.
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PerilPastry posted:Have the Swedes weighed in recently? Last I heard was the Swedish PM saying this It's shifting. There is a pro NATO public majority among the population now, which is a big shift. However the Social Democrats are still not ready to commit, probably in large part due to internal strife since they have a non insignificant NATO sceptic left wing in the party. The far right Swedish Demorats are also not completely ready to leave their NATO scepticism, although their voter base is overwhelmingly pro NATO. I expect a Finnish application would shift us to an application finally.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Could Russia do it, even if they wanted to? Was there any confirmation of this, apart from Nexta and whatever "Aviation Herald" is? I've tries googling it and I'm not finding much else, and neither of those seem to be particularly reliable sources.
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Nessus posted:So why does Putin love this stout maniac so much? Was this entire war his idea? Kadyrov is what the monkeys paw spit out after Putin wished for someone to keep Chechnya under control for him
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Man these new Russian takes are just wonderful : Jews funded the Nazis. Well it is half-true, it just wasn't voluntarily funded by the Jews.
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The Washington Post came out with a report on Russian logistics problems today: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/30/russia-military-logistics-supply-chain/ It included this graphic, which may be useful for anyone wondering what a Russian BTG might look like: 
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Was there any confirmation of this, apart from Nexta and whatever "Aviation Herald" is? I've tries googling it and I'm not finding much else, and neither of those seem to be particularly reliable sources. There was a more official one, I posted it yesterday. https://twitter.com/buddyyakov/status/1508844013826154497 Nessus posted:Wasn't Chechnya another war of choice for Putin? The second one was, the first one isn’t as clear cut.
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steinrokkan posted:Denazifying? Woops this hammer and sickle logo shouldn't be on there either.
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Play posted:It might be 'normal' and perfectly fine to do so, but thinking that most people would rather poo poo out in the cold into a pit if they had another option seems silly and a little paternalistic. They should have the option, they don't because most of the money in Russia is sucked up by oligarchs and criminals and much of the rest is lost to corruption. Not to mention that that's only one effect of lack of running water, plumbing is something that a country as 'powerful' as Russia should be able to provide to all their people.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:The Washington Post came out with a report on Russian logistics problems today: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/30/russia-military-logistics-supply-chain/ I think I see the problem: "One tow truck for lighter vehicles and one for towing tanks and cannons."
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Nessus posted:So why does Putin love this stout maniac so much? Was this entire war his idea? because he is the only one Putin trusts because he is a fully mad putin creature.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:The Washington Post came out with a report on Russian logistics problems today: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/30/russia-military-logistics-supply-chain/ This war really puts into perspective how advanced and well oiled the U.S. war machine is that they can deploy a standing army in Iraq/Afghanistan within a month or two halfway across the world and sustain it. Russia is having huge problems even after months of build up invading a next door neighbor. Just a reminder when comparing armies by size and equipment that's only one factor, force projection is far more complicated.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:There was a more official one, I posted it yesterday. Thanks! Yeah, definitely sounds like confirmation. The favt.ru website does seem to mostly still be down, too, although some Russian websites are geoblocked so I'm not entirely sure.
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KitConstantine posted:Videos that make you go That entire backdrop is giving me some real "a poor person's idea of a rich person" vibes.
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Roadie posted:That entire backdrop is giving me some real "a poor person's idea of a rich person" vibes. chuds are gonna chud, even rich dictator failsons. trumps the same way basicaly.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
Also, racism.
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Popete posted:This war really puts into perspective how advanced and well oiled the U.S. war machine is that they can deploy a standing army in Iraq/Afghanistan within a month or two halfway across the world and sustain it. Russia is having huge problems even after months of build up invading a next door neighbor. Yeah I used to find myself wondering why there's so many people in the US army who all seem to randomly live in suburbs and go on deployments only to come back later like its a business trip. I kept thinking holy poo poo all these people are risking their lives on a regular basis... Then I realized many of them are not actually on the front lines, they're basic combat trained admin staff who are responsible for the intricate supply chain, accounting and transport dispatch related stuff that goes into planning a massive amount of supply and demand for front line combat units. It's such a non-sexy part of the war effort and yet I'd argue it's probably one of the most important jobs you can do... Wondering if actual combat personnel like 11Bs are actually a minority of the army.
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