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euphronius posted:I’m not trying to be profound (lol). Numenoreans were taller, lived longer, had claims on kingdoms, could use magic, and so on . (Not even getting into the elves) Ok if you want to say that isn’t necessarily objectively good I understand that point.
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Shibawanko posted:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8HWk4BpT_AP4tTGjF4O4GA i watch this guy's just because of the way he starts his videos Oh god, one of those Now this particular guy you like might not be a smug awful edgelord. I'll accept that, but that was sure the way to bet based on all previous experience. It's like bright colours in nature signalling poison, it's generally life's way of telling you don't listen to this horrible rear end in a top hat. *Redundant. It's always a guy. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Mar 30, 2022 00:08
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Deptfordx posted:Oh god, one of those it's just a chill guy who starts his videos with an insanely nerdy greeting that i think is funny
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Mar 30, 2022 00:42
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I started reading The Silmarillion a few weeks ago, and I usually make it thru a chapter each time I open it. It's not as obtuse as many would have led me to believe but god drat are there a lot of names and locations thrown at you at once so it's hard to follow. Might have to go back and re-read it after I finish so I can actually see who was doing what and when during the first third of the book.
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Mar 30, 2022 15:22
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WarMECH posted:I started reading The Silmarillion a few weeks ago, and I usually make it thru a chapter each time I open it. It's not as obtuse as many would have led me to believe but god drat are there a lot of names and locations thrown at you at once so it's hard to follow. Might have to go back and re-read it after I finish so I can actually see who was doing what and when during the first third of the book. IMO they should just have a little reference of the most important names printed on the very last page so you can quickly remind you who's Turin vs Hurin, Huor vs Tuor, Fingolfin vs Fingon, Maglor vs Maeglin vs Maedhros It's a fun book when you're in the right mood, though.
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Mar 30, 2022 16:02
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At least some editions of the Silmarillion have some family trees for the Noldor and Edain princes at the back, check and see if it’s there
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Mar 30, 2022 16:12
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Pham Nuwen posted:IMO they should just have a little reference of the most important names printed on the very last page so you can quickly remind you who's Turin vs Hurin, Huor vs Tuor, Fingolfin vs Fingon, Maglor vs Maeglin vs Maedhros Usually, people with very similar names are closely related, so its easy enough to get the gist of what the book is talking about. Like, Turin is Hurin's son, Tuor is Huor's son, Hurin and Huor are brothers. All of them are nobles in the house of Hador, one of the 3 houses of Men that allied with the elves in Beleriand. Fingon is the son of Fingolfin. They're Noldor exiles who didn't follow Feanor or his sons. Maglor and Maedhros are brothers, both sons of Feanor. Maeglin is kind of an exception though A Moose fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Mar 30, 2022 |
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Mar 30, 2022 16:12
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The character and place names thing makes it totally impenetrable to me, unfortunately. I'm so bad with names, I couldn't even tell you the first names of half of my favorite characters from most of my favorite movies and shows where they're normal real-world names that I have reference points for. Throwing hundreds of made up names that all sound kinda similar at me is just not going to work. I hope there's an animated version in my lifetime so I can properly absorb it and recognize the characters and locations visually instead. I vote for someone doing it in the style of Son of the White Mare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQpIt3WgDHg
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Mar 30, 2022 16:19
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I hope they do it in Dreamworks style and all of the characters make the smirk face
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Mar 30, 2022 17:05
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Just read the silmarillion while listening to blind guardians nightfall in middle earth.
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Mar 30, 2022 17:57
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A Moose posted:Maglor and Maedhros are brothers, both sons of Feanor. Maeglin is kind of an exception though Maeglin is a massive douchebag so its appropriate that his name is similar to a member of the king poo poo family of massive douchebags.
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Mar 30, 2022 19:37
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feanor and his sons are cool
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Mar 30, 2022 19:39
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That's a funny thing to say about a guy whose name means Spirit of Fire.
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Mar 30, 2022 20:01
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Beren and Luthien are the most important people / couple in the whole thing and are the “key” I guess to almost all the relationships
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Arc Hammer posted:Maeglin is a massive douchebag so its appropriate that his name is similar to a member of the king poo poo family of massive douchebags. he could have replaced Maedhros, who was maybe one of the less douch-y ones, as evidenced by the fact that he's the only one who was known to have one (1) friend who was not also his brother. But then again, I think he also led the 2nd and 3rd kinslayings and attacked the valar to steal a silmaril. Pobody's nerfect right??
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Mar 30, 2022 20:18
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Aegnor also had a friend who wasn’t his brother. A zone friend if you will
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skasion posted:Aegnor also had a friend who wasn’t his brother. A zone friend if you will oh yeah, I thought we were just talking about the sons of feanor (who all sucked)
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Mar 30, 2022 20:26
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valar stole them first
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A Moose posted:oh yeah, I thought we were just talking about the sons of feanor (who all sucked) Wait, wasn’t he one? Or am I confusing him with one of the OTHER pair of Noldorin princes with an A name
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Mar 30, 2022 20:50
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skasion posted:Wait, wasn’t he one? Or am I confusing him with one of the OTHER pair of Noldorin princes with an A name Aegnor was the one who was in love with a human, but died before he could do anything about it, but he was one of Finarfin's sons.
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Mar 30, 2022 21:13
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A Moose posted:Aegnor was the one who was in love with a human, but died before he could do anything about it, but he was one of Finarfin's sons. Finrod talked him out of doing anything about it. Andreth was a very old, lonely woman by the time everything went to poo poo.
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Mar 30, 2022 21:40
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Falathrim posted:Finrod talked him out of doing anything about it. Andreth was a very old, lonely woman by the time everything went to poo poo.
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re: Numenorean superiority and so on, I have a recollection Tolkien's own reply to that was more or less "the book is fiction, bro, Numenoreans aren't real."
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The oldest, most-distant star yet seen has been named Earendel.quote:Tolkien fans may recognize this name, though spelled slightly differently as Eärendil, the half-elf mariner who carried a heavenly jewel into the sky in The Silmarillion. Tolkien found inspiration for his works in the 10th century poem Crist, one line of which (translated from Old English) reads: “Hail Éarendel, brightest of angels, sent over middle-earth to mankind.” The nature of Éarendel is debated but it is commonly identified as the “morning star.”
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Mar 31, 2022 11:35
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Oh sweet, I heard from a friend that it was Earendel but assumed it was NOT a Tolkien reference. This is awesome
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But Ëarendil is Venus!
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Zopotantor posted:But Ëarendil is Venus! There's no umlaut, totally different name.
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https://twitter.com/theoneringnet/status/1509778754880503810?s=21&t=sp51AsqQmQGnrHhhZY1QDQ I was very confused until I realized the date.
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The worst of the worst april fools jokes are the ones that prank you into believing something good exists and then saying "haha nevermind, gently caress you for getting excited for that."
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Oracle posted:There's no umlaut, totally different name. That's a diæresis.  Fun fact: The original German translation spelled it "Eärendil", which is an umlaut in German.
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I know conversation's moved on from illustrations, but I just saw this picture of Barad-Dur by Pauline Baynes and really liked it, so wanted to share:
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cptn_dr posted:I know conversation's moved on from illustrations, but I just saw this picture of Barad-Dur by Pauline Baynes and really liked it, so wanted to share: The conversation can circle back for this, its great
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cptn_dr posted:I know conversation's moved on from illustrations, but I just saw this picture of Barad-Dur by Pauline Baynes and really liked it, so wanted to share: it's a bit too tall, it could do with fewer battlements
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Shibawanko posted:it's a bit too tall, it could do with fewer battlements The only real criticism I have is that I think any depiction of barad-dur should be incomplete; there should always be more of the fortress out of frame, either above or below or to the side.
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cptn_dr posted:I know conversation's moved on from illustrations, but I just saw this picture of Barad-Dur by Pauline Baynes and really liked it, so wanted to share: Hieronymous Alloy posted:The only real criticism I have is that I think any depiction of barad-dur should be incomplete; there should always be more of the fortress out of frame, either above or below or to the side. Yeah I actually like the design of this, but the framing makes it look slightly wee I went to the mountain of iron, gate of steel, tower of adamant and all I got was this stupid coffee cup
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Shibawanko posted:it's a bit too tall, it could do with fewer battlements 
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cptn_dr posted:I know conversation's moved on from illustrations, but I just saw this picture of Barad-Dur by Pauline Baynes and really liked it, so wanted to share: You can't fool me that's a Necron Monolith.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The only real criticism I have is that I think any depiction of barad-dur should be incomplete; there should always be more of the fortress out of frame, either above or below or to the side. Yeah, the Fortress of Evil in Time Bandits is the ideal of Barad-dur as far as I'm concerned.
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Yeah I like the idea that every level of the ziggurat should have crenellated battlements so you can shoot arrows that won't even reach to the outer wall Like, just for stylistic consistency
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