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SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



I like the pistol sound. I’ve heard way wimpier sounding pistols from modern games.

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site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
the chaingun feels more fun to use when i edited it to use the shotgun sound like the chaingunner does, instead of the dinky regular one

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY
I like the sounds of the pistols and chainguns/automatic weapons from all the unpopular weapon WADs i play. :shobon:

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I really liked the double pistols in Heartland, not sure if they're from a different weapon pack or made for that wad

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

In Training posted:

I really liked the double pistols in Heartland, not sure if they're from a different weapon pack or made for that wad
I think the sprites are edited from Rise of the Triad's dualies, but with Doomguy hands and the little bit from the back of the Doom pistol edited on. I think Xaser did all the weapon code for Heartland.

Retro Jam 7 is out for Quake 1, bringing 10 vanilla levels using the visual theme from 2001's Castle of Koohoo.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Here's a fun forums game, and it's relevant!

Quick: name the worst sounding gun in a commercially released FPS. I'll start!

ROTT's MP40. Goddamn thing sounds like you're tap dancing on a yoga mat.

Edit: sort of related, but I STILL have zero idea what the Doom Imp idle sound is.

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Mar 31, 2022

Carpator Diei
Feb 26, 2011

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Quick: name the worst sounding gun in a commercially released FPS. I'll start!
The Doom64 Plasma Gun. Not so much the firing sound, but that constant buzzing is unbearable, at least for me.

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh
The Doom pistol and chaingun sounds pretty bad. It's like tapping on a metal trash can.

edit: or maybe throwing a coin at a tarp

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Edit: sort of related, but I STILL have zero idea what the Doom Imp idle sound is.
Apparently it's a chopped up clip of a baby Jaguar snorting.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Here's a fun forums game, and it's relevant!

Quick: name the worst sounding gun in a commercially released FPS. I'll start!

ROTT's MP40. Goddamn thing sounds like you're tap dancing on a yoga mat.

Edit: sort of related, but I STILL have zero idea what the Doom Imp idle sound is.

If Fallout: New Vegas counts, the silenced .22 pistol. It sounds like shucking corn.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



In the end I didn't refund Nightmare Reaper. It's fine, fun to play short bursts every day. It could be improved in several ways, but well, it is what it is. For example, as cool is to find a level 1 weapon with great random perks and save it at the end of every level, I think ultimately is making the game worse, not better. It's hampering the strong point of the game, the great weapon variety and with random perks, because you start using 'the chosen weapon' over the others way too much. You should save the same weapon a max of 3-4 levels, that would be a good compromise.
Also:

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Here's a fun forums game, and it's relevant!

Quick: name the worst sounding gun in a commercially released FPS. I'll start!

ROTT's MP40. Goddamn thing sounds like you're tap dancing on a yoga mat.

Edit: sort of related, but I STILL have zero idea what the Doom Imp idle sound is.

The blake stone starter pistol

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Not guns technically but Heretic and Hexan have some kinda annoying weapon sounds.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
the plasma rifle

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





Chaser is in this weird category where I love the actual firing sounds for nearly every weapon, but the engine has a stodgy limitation where gunfire can't overlap on itself and so automatic weapons loop in a glitchy, chopped-up way. Like on this Mac-10, where during single shots and on the trailing ends of bursts you can hear texture and detail in the report but during the meat of the bursts it sounds like a cheap school PA system stuck in a feedback loop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN5Sap9sKPs&t=40s

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
Halo 2 SMG and Halo 3 assault rifle are both terribly wimpy sounding, especially when you compare them to the Halo 1 assault rifle which is loud as hell and has that Aliens-esque reverb on it.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



skasion posted:

Halo 2 SMG and Halo 3 assault rifle are both terribly wimpy sounding, especially when you compare them to the Halo 1 assault rifle which is loud as hell and has that Aliens-esque reverb on it.

These are definitely the worst now that I’ve been reminded. It makes it worse with how wimpy they feel to use as well.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

The Half-life 2 SMG is what made me realize that weapon feel can make a weapon feel weaker than it is. For that matter, the Combine Pulse Rifle was the opposite where it's a decent gun already but the feel makes it seem even more powerful.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

SeANMcBAY posted:

These are definitely the worst now that I’ve been reminded. It makes it worse with how wimpy they feel to use as well.

Yeah the Halo 1 assault rifle is pretty suck as well (or at least not that great in a game full of OP weapons), but it sounds/feels great to shoot

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

The CMP150s from Perfect Dark sounded almost like a bunch of seeds being spit out from your guns but goddamn is that gun smoooooooth.

Also, a kid my sister used to babysit would play Perfect Dark with us, and he'd call those guns 'composies". I've been using that made up name for them ever since, and I barely remembered what they were actually called.

Weedle
May 31, 2006




worst assault rifle sound of all time has to be deus ex 1

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Weedle posted:

worst assault rifle sound of all time has to be deus ex 1

To be fair, I think the DX1 assault rifle might be in the running for worst game assault rifles, so it's not like the sound is its only sin.

koren
Sep 7, 2003

All the deus ex sounds are wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrH0qN0Iw50

Weedle
May 31, 2006




koren posted:

All the deus ex sounds are wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrH0qN0Iw50

holy poo poo lmfao

I'M DECLARING A SECURITY BREACH

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Weedle posted:

holy poo poo lmfao

I'M DECLARING A SECURITY BREACH

I think this one’s some kinda mech

Voodoo Cafe
Jul 19, 2004
"You got, uhh, Holden Caulfield in there, man?"

koren posted:

All the deus ex sounds are wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrH0qN0Iw50

:sickos:

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

catlord posted:

To be fair, I think the DX1 assault rifle might be in the running for worst game assault rifles, so it's not like the sound is its only sin.

A playthrough where you feed it every weapon mod you find is somewhat fun.


"Somewhat" might be a load-bearing word in that sentence...

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



koren posted:

All the deus ex sounds are wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrH0qN0Iw50

I needed some time to notice that not only the BGM, the voice clips and the weapon sounds were replaced, also all the constant deus ex sound footsteps are there! In a way it's because that sound is natural to me :P

KajiTheMelonMan
Sep 2, 2004

I killed a Tuskarr

koren posted:

All the deus ex sounds are wonderful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrH0qN0Iw50

It gave me lemon lime!!

(this was awesome)

Barudak
May 7, 2007

So once again, I am asking you, devs, please, let me turn off weapon slots on the scroll wheel unless you have a button the queues up some weapon I designate. I do not need to scroll between 5 plus weapon, I need to switch between my primary gun and whatever my "special operations" gun is and scrolling through five things to find it is not helpful.

Nightmare Reaper, please, I've been using the same shotgun for the last 10 hours of the game just give me anything that is remotely in the same universe of utility.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Barudak posted:


Nightmare Reaper, please, I've been using the same shotgun for the last 10 hours of the game just give me anything that is remotely in the same universe of utility.

Just a few posts above...

Turin Turambar posted:

It could be improved in several ways, but well, it is what it is. For example, as cool is to find a level 1 weapon with great random perks and save it at the end of every level, I think ultimately is making the game worse, not better. It's hampering the strong point of the game, the great weapon variety and with random perks, because you start using 'the chosen weapon' over the others way too much. You should save the same weapon a max of 3-4 levels, that would be a good compromise.

Rev. Melchisedech Howler
Sep 5, 2006

You know. Leather.

Turin Turambar posted:

Just a few posts above...

Absolutely agree, I rarely take a weapon longer than a couple of levels. Also always take the offer to sell your most used weapon to Dr Ghost MD.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Another pet peeve with the game, they give you an impressive dash, but you can't jump + dash. :/

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

Turin Turambar posted:

Another pet peeve with the game, they give you an impressive dash, but you can't jump + dash. :/

You can dash off a ledge and jump mid-air so I don't really know why they don't let you do the opposite.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Decino's finally kicking off his playthrough of ancient aliens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6MmhN6-1ds

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Yeah I saw it this morning. AA was slightly different from what I remembered...


In other news
https://github.com/sultim-t/prboom-plus-rt/releases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ld9YNUWls

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

For looter shooters that randomly generate weapons and effects, I think that weapons and their upgrades should have a hidden 'general score' in the background. Shotgun? 5 points. Explosive ammo? That's an extra 10 points. But you as the player don't know or see your weapon score ever.

Then, the random weapon generator should be strictly based on your current (or last, if you're unarmed) weapon score. That way, when you're running around with a weapon that's scored at like, say, 46, you'll soon only be finding weapons that are maybe +/- 2 points.

Angryhead
Apr 4, 2009

Don't call my name
Don't call my name
Alejandro




https://twitter.com/danielwienerson/status/1509944652119506951 siiick

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh

Turin Turambar posted:

Yeah I saw it this morning. AA was slightly different from what I remembered...


In other news
https://github.com/sultim-t/prboom-plus-rt/releases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ld9YNUWls
I finally managed to order a 3070 Ti for a not-insane price and being looking forward to trying ugly gimmick poo poo like this is reminding me of back when I got my first AGP video card and could finally play OpenGL Doom Legacy with ugly 3D models and coloured lights.

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HolyKrap
Feb 10, 2008

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Turin Turambar posted:

Yeah I saw it this morning. AA was slightly different from what I remembered...


In other news
https://github.com/sultim-t/prboom-plus-rt/releases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ld9YNUWls

I wanna try this but the download's broken :(

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