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Charity Porno posted:I do think they are setting up the roots of Khan, but I think it's also the writers wanting to push the timeline of the Eugenics Wars back a little bit since "they started in 1999!" has been a joke for 23 years It would be the one retcon I wouldn't really mind and it can always be handwaved with "the records were lovely". The fact that they dropped in a line about him testing poo poo on soldiers is really what got me thinking about it. I don't expect Khan himself to show up, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're laying the groundwork for a Khan series to be set a few decades into the future of the events of Picard's 2024. Delsaber posted:The impression I got from Soong's hearing was that the Eugenics Wars already happened and that's why his funding was getting pulled via whatever treaty or accord they mentioned. But that could be totally off, since as Picard said later, records from this century are "chaos", so a lot of the details between major landmark events are fuzzy. Going by their analysis of the atmosphere and it not having high levels of radiation yet, I took it to mean that WW3 hadn't happened yet because I thought the Earth would need to get nuked in there someplace. But again my Star Trek lore gets real fuzzy real fast and I'm not going to rewatch the beginning of Episode 3 to get the actual quote because this show doesn't deserve that level of scrutiny. Khanstant posted:eh wot? the two meme men people joke about and goof on for decades in peak trek? the guy with his tits out that makes kirk so horny he screams to the heavens in lust, this is peak trek? Wrath of Khan is the absolute best film in the entire franchise by miles and the only one that comes close is Voyage Home. I don't want to belabor it, but Kirk screaming to the heavens isn't because he's horny, but because he knows how to play to Khan's ego. It was all to make Khan think he had won to buy them time. The characterization in that film is exceptionally well-done; the stakes are high while being personal, and it asks real questions about the nature of man and his place in the universe. I have to assume you've seen it though and know all of that, but if you haven't and you're just going by the memes, you owe it to yourself to actually watch it.
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Delsaber posted:It's hard to imagine a world war fought by conventional means lasting that long before someone gets jumpy enough to launch the nukes, but maybe I've just had my brain poisoned by Fallout games and clancychat Orbital defensive systems eliminate ICBMs as a viable threat, airborne lasers on alert eliminate SLBMs, and hypersonic smart drones eliminate strategic bombers. Standard theater defense systems are sophisticated enough to eliminate tactical systems wholesale. Non-nuclear systems successfully destroy ICBMs in counterforce strikes, perhaps kinetic bombardments, and the lead time to build new ones precludes redeploying such systems. Hunter-killer submarines eliminate ballistic missile subs in the opening minutes of the war and the resources are better spent elsewhere. Strategic bombers are pressed into service supporting conventional airstrikes. That's why the only nuclear weapons that turn up on screen in WWIII are tactical drops from fighter-bombers.
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galenanorth posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Picard_(season_2) looks like it's just the directors, except for the first two episodes They've said that the time travel was supopsed to occur at the end of episode 2 but they moved it to 3. Rescuing Rios felt like it was supposed to be the end of episode 4, but happened here. The episodes aren't exactly over-time so I wonder why they keep doing that. Makes the pacing feel really weird in that everything is a cliffhanger. https://twitter.com/StarTrek/status/1509667891796275223?s=20&t=Ehc3_2MEi74aM0pv9W6ORg Hope they don't gently caress it up because the cast at least seems charming.
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Sash! posted:Orbital defensive systems eliminate ICBMs as a viable threat, airborne lasers on alert eliminate SLBMs, and hypersonic smart drones eliminate strategic bombers. Standard theater defense systems are sophisticated enough to eliminate tactical systems wholesale. Non-nuclear systems successfully destroy ICBMs in counterforce strikes, perhaps kinetic bombardments, and the lead time to build new ones precludes redeploying such systems. Hunter-killer submarines eliminate ballistic missile subs in the opening minutes of the war and the resources are better spent elsewhere. Strategic bombers are pressed into service supporting conventional airstrikes. The Phoenix was a nuclear missile of some kind. Someone was making them, even if that specific missile didn't end up getting launched.
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Did any of the Rios detour poo poo have a point? I get that Trek can get heavy-handed with its morality, allegorical or not. But not when it's an inconsequential side-plot.
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ashpanash posted:Did any of the Rios detour poo poo have a point? I mean we still have half the drat season left to air and I’m reasonably certain that Things Introduced In Previous Episodes will come up again for later payoffs in the back half.
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I doubt we're done with Teresa just yet. If anything ends up mattering from that Rios subplot it'll probably be her. Weirdly enough, her clinic's logo was on the medical supplies those random space goons were trying to steal from the real La Sirena in the season premiere. 
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ashpanash posted:Did any of the Rios detour poo poo have a point? There's still a scene with the Doctor in one of the trailer that hasn't been used yet. Rios and the doctor kiss on La Sirena.
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this sucks. is all of trek human history just future people shenanigans lmao i was joking about soji havig a soji in the past she was copied from but they went and did it. also they showed her second set of nipples, wtf trek this isnt a nudity show Khanstant fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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ashpanash posted:Did any of the Rios detour poo poo have a point? We finally learned the True Lore Origin of the two-handed Kirk hammerfist strike.
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Really my biggest interest at the moment is why Q is acting like such a dick. In most of his prior appearances, his dickishness was to teach an important lesson or save humanity via shenanigans, but he's just straight acting like a villain
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Yeah I don't like this Q who seems to just be trying to destroy everything. Where is the lesson in this?
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Charity Porno posted:Really my biggest interest at the moment is why Q is acting like such a dick. In most of his prior appearances, his dickishness was to teach an important lesson or save humanity via shenanigans, but he's just straight acting like a villain Also curious what everyone thinks the chronology for him is, if that even applies to him. I.E., is the gray-haired Q we're seeing in the past from a moment in his life before he talked to Old Man Picard, or before? The hair and his general demeanor would make it seem like it was before he met with Picard, but that's confusing because 2024 Q doesn't have his powers anymore, and he still had some remnant of them in the present.
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Commander Blander is out of this world ! DUN DUN DUN "They can fly now?" *shot of guy with blood pouring out of his mouth* "They can fly now!" *same guy now eating some klingon pussy luxuriously* "They can fly now" STRANGE NEW WORLDS, PREMIERS MAY 2022
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Khanstant posted:huh? he was in the present then went to the past To those of us who see time linearly maybe, but it is very possible that this is Q's past, Picard's present and oh no I've gone cross-eyed.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Commander Blander is out of this world ! This is the worst version of The Aristocrats yet
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Also, letting loose a bus full of migrants who would have otherwise ended up in a sanctuary district seems awfully temporary irresponsible even if it would look bad stunning Pedro and the boys and putting them back on the bus. I'm sure it's fine. *B'Elanna Torres vanishes from Voyager reruns*
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Very cool that they have an electronic device that can emit a massive EMP pulse without being affected by it.MikeJF posted:There was a lot of thought in that that they could do more if a modern trek did a take on them. From Drex: I'm reminded of Marvel creating massive sets in their movies that end up being replaced by CGI anyway, they could probably get away with having a green screen set these days
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...yeah wouldn't that be how you'd want it to work, shield itself so it don't break immediately on use?
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Khanstant posted:lmao i was joking about soji havig a soji in the past she was copied from but they went and did it. also they showed her second set of nipples, wtf trek this isnt a nudity show Umm, huh? So, it's not without obvious flaws, including a few cringe-inducing ones but this has indisputably been a big improvement over season 1 and god drat if I haven't been plenty entertained. I feel sorry for fun-haters. Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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So, why does the Supervisor look like a Romulan woman from the future? In a better show, there'd be a point to that. She doesn't seem to be able to read minds or anything like that and had no idea who Picard was, so it's not like she pulled the features from some alien records. And her people don't do time travel, so I can't see it being the Supervisor in the future timeline, watching over doddering Picard in his retirement.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:So, why does the Supervisor look like a Romulan woman from the future? We’re definitely going to get an explanation, just not yet.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Umm, huh? Yeah, you don't just throw something like "second set of nipples" into a conversation and walk it off.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:So, why does the Supervisor look like a Romulan woman from the future? Same reason every member of the Soong family looks like Data.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Yeah, you don't just throw something like "second set of nipples" into a conversation and walk it off. Finally, Gene's vision comes to fruition
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Yeah, you don't just throw something like "second set of nipples" into a conversation and walk it off. i don't know what else to tell you, they showed her supernumerary nipples. just a joke about the arbitrary standards for which nipples get censored by cbs or not
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Watched the episode tonight and was really excited they dedicated a full 2.5 hours to Stefan Heck and Jesse Farrar winning a Rocket League tourney! These writers do know how to surprise me!
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I’m enjoying the season so far, but I do agree that it feels like this is all being stretched out a bit too much. It’s not nearly like Disco S4 though.
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Mokinokaro posted:I miss fun Q and hope we get some form of him by the end. Yeah, straight up evil asswipe Q ain't really doing it for me either. But apparently DeLancie had been angling to get the chance to play a more overtly antagonistic Q for a while after they kind of went too far into goofy nonsense Q by the end of Voyager, so if this is satisfying some longing for him as an actor, then I'm okay with it. But yeah, I also hope we get goofball "leaves a voice message comically telling you to get hosed if you call his hotline" Q back by the time we're done here.
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I liked Renée Picard's simulator showing a 1202 error, because that was the spurious error that Neil and Buzz had to deal with during the Apollo 11 landing. Also the lady doing the computer voice on the El La Sirena was doing a pretty good Majel impression and fooled me. Also also the shot of the ICE bus getting EMP'ed may have been flipped, because it was on the wrong side of the road. Spiner looked and sounded good and his scenes with Q were decent. That episode felt like it was constructed better than the others, which was nice, even if most of the stuff with the Borg Queen was still kind of dumb. "I hated killing her." Yeah, we figured, Agnes, by how you're clearly crying and shaking.
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So Q has no powers (again) but still has amazing skills (hacking, CAD/3D printing, cutting edge genetics research and development, getting a job as a NASA appointed therapist in less than a day, getting a phone number set up [requiring the use of money from where…?] etc)
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The_Doctor posted:So Q has no powers (again) but still has amazing skills (hacking, CAD/3D printing, cutting edge genetics research and development, getting a job as a NASA appointed therapist in less than a day, getting a phone number set up [requiring the use of money from where…?] etc) It might be that his powers are limited to not affecting sentient beings or something.
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pik_d posted:It might be that his powers are limited to not affecting sentient beings or something. Or that he can meddle with small things, but trying to overtly gently caress with one of the major strands of human history is now beyond the waning limits of his powers. Also Q exists outside of time and space, we don't really know how long he's been on Earth of 2024 compared to Picard and co, or if he's been there before and taken "precautions" or set up contingencies in case of a situation like this. It would not surprise me if Q has access to a gently caress lot of resources that have nothing to do with using his powers because he strikes me as that kind of controlled chaos type guy. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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The_Doctor posted:So Q has no powers (again) but still has amazing skills (hacking, CAD/3D printing, cutting edge genetics research and development, getting a job as a NASA appointed therapist in less than a day, getting a phone number set up [requiring the use of money from where…?] etc) He seems to still have all his knowledge, just not his powers. None of the things mentioned are impossible feats for a normal person with perfect information
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Charity Porno posted:He seems to still have all his knowledge, just not his powers. None of the things mentioned are impossible feats for a normal person with perfect information Yeah, Q claims he has an IQ of 2000 even as a powerless mortal in Deja Q. He could probably figure out how to hack into Soong's personal VPN from a public access library computer or something. Though now I'm also picturing Q desperately trying to rob people on the street to scrounge up money for a burner phone and an Uber and its loving hilarious.
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