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I'm 3 minutes into that mother's basement video and that platinum end show is, uh, wtf lmao?
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Mar 31, 2022 05:48
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I really loved the ride Death Note took me on the first time through, but every rewatch fizzles 8 episodes or so in. I'm content with letting that stay a nice memory.
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Mar 31, 2022 05:59
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I'm 3 minutes into that mother's basement video and that platinum end show is, uh, wtf lmao?
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Mar 31, 2022 06:21
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CYBEReris posted:i lost interest in death note when L died, it felt like the two characters' dynamic was the most fun part of the series and reason to keep up with it, near and mello were just boring by comparison I think the back half of Death Note could have been interesting if Mello had been positioned as the central antagonist, since his personality and motives were so different from L's. Near just ended up being L mk.ii but with less build-up and a worse dynamic with light. I do have to say I disagree with Geoff on the quality of Death Note's ending (the manga version of it, at least). The fact that Light gets merc'd with no build-up and ends up begging Ryuk to save him is the perfect rebuke of Light's terrible ideology and narcissism. I couldn't have thought of a better ending to the series myself.
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Mar 31, 2022 09:54
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Pigbuster posted:I'm going to laugh my rear end off if their podcast curse makes Twilight suddenly become relevant again. I've heard in passing that new Hogwarts game is hella problematic to boot, wonder if they'll cover that.
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Mar 31, 2022 10:52
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Samovar posted:I've heard in passing that new Hogwarts game is hella problematic to boot, wonder if they'll cover that. well, it's not out yet, but also it does seem to be about goblin blood libel and the lead designer is a former youtube chud so that's really just a matter of finding out how bad it is at the end of the day JordanKai posted:I do have to say I disagree with Geoff on the quality of Death Note's ending (the manga version of it, at least). The fact that Light gets merc'd with no build-up and ends up begging Ryuk to save him is the perfect rebuke of Light's terrible ideology and narcissism. I couldn't have thought of a better ending to the series myself. Light getting killed by someone who he assumed worshipped him AND who he thought was basically harmless and useless is basically the only way that story could have ended
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Mar 31, 2022 14:18
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Mix. posted:i think it'd be fun if we got a death note brotherhood that basically redid death note but with the knowledge and inspiration of the past decade plus of thriller/survival game seinen to draw from Death Note has some really fun and cool moments and characters, but at best they briefly cover up how the core story and ideas they're trying to explore just aren't very interesting. To be flippant, the core question Death Note asks the reader is "Is it bad to murder people?" It then spends 108 chapters discovering that the answer was yes. A brotherhood-style 'fix' of Death Note would need to make some pretty huge changes to what the story is even about. I think you might as well tell a new story in the same setting. The premise could easily have worked as an anthology series, to the point I'm shocked they didn't go in that direction. They did a cool short with a new character a little while ago though, and put out a short story collection recently, but the collection is just that cool one-off, the pilot (which is, itself, a fun one-off that demonstrates exactly why the anthology format would rule) and a bunch of less interesting shorts about L and Near they did over the years. I kinda love how the anthology format starts to happen organically through the process of adaptation. The anime makes a few small but clever changes but remains relatively straight, but the Japanese movies mess with the plot to surprise people who think they know what happens, and the 2017 western movie fundamentally changes the characters and effectively tells a different story (whether you wanted it or not). These aren't even really changes, they're new stories at that point. They should lean into that more. Make a dozen more Death Note stories. Give someone with a really low-stakes objective in life a Death Note. A Death Note falls into a pulping machine at a major newspaper, killing anyone named in that day's crossword. What happens when a monkey writes in the Death Note. I came up with these and I'm an idiot, so there's at least six more good ideas in here
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Mar 31, 2022 17:04
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you're dangerously at risk of creating the next Wishmaster franchise and I am all for it
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Mar 31, 2022 17:10
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Solitair posted:Speaking of Mother's Basement, he found a really interesting bad anime to do an autopsy on: Okay, I'm just over 26 minutes into the video and all I can say is that in addition to all the problems Mother's Basement has already brought up with it, Platinum End has way too many weird, anime bullshit concepts for its own good. Like, you can have anime tactical superhero costumes or you can have a dying god granting mortals angel powers with meticulously defined rules and hierarchy, or you can have a cast of characters with the most extra backstories and identities possible but you can't do all of them at the same time. Then it all just becomes anime plot noise...
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Mar 31, 2022 17:17
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egg tats posted:well, it's not out yet, but also it does seem to be about goblin blood libel and the lead designer is a former youtube chud so that's really just a matter of finding out how bad it is at the end of the day I’m sure they’ll handwave it by having the elf be someone’s else elf that is working with you, or maybe you free the elf and…you’re repaid with unquestioning service? It’s quite the look since a decent amount of Harry Potter’s baggage can be excised from the universe since they are mostly Rowling’s weird hangups that aren’t super core to what attracts people to the IP. You don’t need weirdly detailed descriptions of fat people, you can avoid the Race Raceton names since it’s over a century in the past with a new cast, you can avoid the house elves as you’re just some kid and not a rich weirdo, and uncomfortable goblin banker depictions can avoided since you’re a kid and don’t need to engage in wizard banking. There’s more, but you can make a game about kids learning magic and shed most of Rowling’s worst impulses. And yet the devs zeroed in on the two worst items on that list.
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Mar 31, 2022 17:37
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The 7th Guest posted:you're dangerously at risk of creating the next Wishmaster franchise and I am all for it If Tony Todd had been the Wishmaster instead of the The Mummy guy, it would be a beloved franchise. Tony Todd is still alive.
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Mar 31, 2022 18:04
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What universe did you just step out of where Tony Todd was in The Mummy, let alone be known as "The Mummy guy"
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Mar 31, 2022 18:06
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Alaois posted:What universe did you just step out of where Tony Todd was in The Mummy, let alone be known as "The Mummy guy" The The Mummy guy was the Wishmaster. I’m imagining a case where it was Tony Todd instead. It’s not like I’d get that wrong—it would be as bad as forgetting that Sinbad was Shazaam.
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Mar 31, 2022 18:13
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Hbomberguy posted:I kinda love how the anthology format starts to happen organically through the process of adaptation. The anime makes a few small but clever changes but remains relatively straight, but the Japanese movies mess with the plot to surprise people who think they know what happens, and the 2017 western movie fundamentally changes the characters and effectively tells a different story (whether you wanted it or not). These aren't even really changes, they're new stories at that point. They should lean into that more. The J-Drama makes a bunch of changes too, though they're generally for the worse. Except Raye Penber being a fake name; that's the one clever detail in it that seems like a weird oversight that wasn't in the original. Then there's also the musical that just ends halfway through the main story, but even how that's setup is different. L holds Light at gunpoint in the warehouse, but Light brags about how it's too late. Rem already wrote L's name in her Death Note, leading L to shoot Light. Light explains this is what he wanted, as it allows him to explain that L was really Kira thus ingratiating him within the task force allowing him to control them like in the second half of the regular story. Then L commits suicide as compelled to by Rem's note. Except, now that L's dead, Ryuk reasons that means things are going to be boring from now on... so he just kills Light, declares the whole thing was a waste of everyone's time and leaves. It's very silly and I kinda enjoy it. The ending at least; the rest of it is pretty bad.
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Mar 31, 2022 18:24
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theres an anime about a kindly old man and a messed up kid who get splatted by a UFO and the only way the aliens can save their lives is by making them both cyborg superweapons. i feel like it touched on a lot of similar stuff to death note but in a more in-depth and optimistic way.
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Mar 31, 2022 18:29
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Hbomberguy posted:To be flippant, the core question Death Note asks the reader is "Is it bad to murder people?" Honestly you wouldn't have to make any particularly wild changes themewise, you just change that premise into "even if the death penalty works, is that a world WORTH creating if you have the power". I think there's some of that in the original story even. iirc, the post L bits of the story are a depressed, boring world that almost make it feel like that's what they wanted to talk about, but didn't feel like they could for whatever reason. like murder is bad, but if you frame lights actions as just that's got some meat to it you know? if you then make Misa into a less terrible character, and then make mello into a character that matters in the last bit? certified banger right there, can't go wrong
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Mar 31, 2022 19:11
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the original Wishmaster guy ruled but then with Wishmaster 3 they decided that they didn't want to do fun movies anymore so they replaced him with someone else who was completely forgettable
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Mar 31, 2022 19:21
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I AM GRANDO posted:The The Mummy guy was the Wishmaster. I’m imagining a case where it was Tony Todd instead. It’s not like I’d get that wrong—it would be as bad as forgetting that Sinbad was Shazaam. Are you talking about Arnold Vosloo?
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Mar 31, 2022 19:22
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CYBEReris posted:theres an anime about a kindly old man and a messed up kid who get splatted by a UFO and the only way the aliens can save their lives is by making them both cyborg superweapons. i feel like it touched on a lot of similar stuff to death note but in a more in-depth and optimistic way. it's also by the creator of gantz, but with the lessons that he learned making gantz from the get-go instead of halfway through realizing he didn't want to make edgy horror he wanted to actually try and tell a real story 
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Mar 31, 2022 20:01
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Is Big Top Burger anime? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV5C9YJIbq0
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Mar 31, 2022 20:09
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I AM GRANDO posted:If Tony Todd had been the Wishmaster instead of the The Mummy guy, it would be a beloved franchise. Tony Todd is still alive.
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Mar 31, 2022 21:32
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I AM GRANDO posted:The The Mummy guy was the Wishmaster. I’m imagining a case where it was Tony Todd instead. It’s not like I’d get that wrong—it would be as bad as forgetting that Sinbad was Shazaam. You might have confused Andrew Divoff with Arnold Vosloo. The 7th Guest posted:the original Wishmaster guy ruled but then with Wishmaster 3 they decided that they didn't want to do fun movies anymore so they replaced him with someone else who was completely forgettable Apparently Divoff wanted to do the script for three which was, hand to God, going to be about the Djinn on a submarine and I would in fact possibly sell my soul for the wish to see that movie.
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Mar 31, 2022 21:57
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Pigbuster posted:I'm going to laugh my rear end off if their podcast curse makes Twilight suddenly become relevant again. stephanie meyers announces the novel telling the gripping story of “edward in brazil” next week
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Mar 31, 2022 21:57
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muscles like this! posted:Speaking of Big Joel, he's said his next video is going to be about PragerU for kids which should be suitably awful. This, combined with them wanting to use any excuse to try and get LGBTQA++-related subjects out of their world by any means necessary seems to hint that they might be willing to use their kids as weapons in any fight, if push comes to shove.
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Mar 31, 2022 22:08
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I'll never forget when the Bakuman characters looked at the camera to explain how to write correct women in the most misogynistic way possible.
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Mar 31, 2022 22:20
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To say that "is murder bad?" is the core moral quandary of Death Note is a bit of a limited reading, in my opinion. In fact, I think the question is resolved quite definitively quite early in the manga, and it only appears to be alive at a surface level because Light is the protagonist and we get to see the story from his point of view. He believes murder is justified in the pursuit of his warped view of justice and personal supremacy, but most of the cast disagrees on this matter. Those who stand by Kira or have some other pro-retributive justice stance are usually portrayed as idiots or comedically evil. You could make the argument that there is a longer ongoing argument in the series about the morality of vigilante and retributive justice, and while I would love to live in a world where that is a quaint discussion, there are a lot of people who are in favour of capital punishment out there. It's a topic ripe for exploration.
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Mar 31, 2022 22:26
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Samovar posted:I've heard in passing that new Hogwarts game is hella problematic to boot, wonder if they'll cover that. They did a whole episode discussing the state of play, actually! And they've generally been discussing it since it was announced, but usually by going to the game's reddit to cherish all the wonderfully pie-in-the-sky gamer hype. I think that's where they got "I wonder if you'll get to have a dementor caretaker internship", which is truly a entrancing concept.
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Mar 31, 2022 22:43
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Dawgstar posted:You might have confused Andrew Divoff with Arnold Vosloo. I did. Turns out I’ve never seen the first two Wishmaster movies. I take it back.
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Mar 31, 2022 23:52
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JordanKai posted:To say that "is murder bad?" is the core moral quandary of Death Note is a bit of a limited reading, in my opinion. In fact, I think the question is resolved quite definitively quite early in the manga, and it only appears to be alive at a surface level because Light is the protagonist and we get to see the story from his point of view. He believes murder is justified in the pursuit of his warped view of justice and personal supremacy, but most of the cast disagrees on this matter. Those who stand by Kira or have some other pro-retributive justice stance are usually portrayed as idiots or comedically evil. You could make the argument that there is a longer ongoing argument in the series about the morality of vigilante and retributive justice, and while I would love to live in a world where that is a quaint discussion, there are a lot of people who are in favour of capital punishment out there. It's a topic ripe for exploration. You could also throw in a bit of 'unearned power corrupts even the best', given how, when Light brain-wipes himself and becomes an investigator chasing after the new Kira, he seems to be a very moral person again, since he doesn't actually have the book to rouse his ambitions. It's not really explored all that well, perhaps due to the grinding shift between arcs, but it's at least touched upon.
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Apr 1, 2022 00:13
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JordanKai posted:To say that "is murder bad?" is the core moral quandary of Death Note is a bit of a limited reading, in my opinion. In fact, I think the question is resolved quite definitively quite early in the manga, and it only appears to be alive at a surface level because Light is the protagonist and we get to see the story from his point of view. He believes murder is justified in the pursuit of his warped view of justice and personal supremacy, but most of the cast disagrees on this matter. Those who stand by Kira or have some other pro-retributive justice stance are usually portrayed as idiots or comedically evil. You could make the argument that there is a longer ongoing argument in the series about the morality of vigilante and retributive justice, and while I would love to live in a world where that is a quaint discussion, there are a lot of people who are in favour of capital punishment out there. It's a topic ripe for exploration. Yeah, while anybody is free to read Death Note and think idk, I don't even really read Death Note as asking much in the way of a moral question of the viewer. It's presenting an intriguing situation and telling a dramatic thriller about an insane killer and the various people who try to stop him.
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Apr 1, 2022 00:18
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It's got the same moral as The Count of Monte Cristo just written infinitely worse
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Apr 1, 2022 00:23
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I AM GRANDO posted:I did. Turns out I’ve never seen the first two Wishmaster movies. I take it back. (the second one isn't as clever with the ironic wish turnarounds, though Divoff still chews the scenery incredibly)
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Apr 1, 2022 00:52
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Speaking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYHIJG_8z2E Mildo did a whole series on Wishmaster movies.
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Apr 1, 2022 01:06
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https://twitter.com/CocoaFox023/status/1509735677361291275 We regret to inform you that YouTube's worst animation critic is at it again.
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Apr 1, 2022 04:53
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you could not pay me to watch 2 hours of lily orchard
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Apr 1, 2022 04:58
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Hopefully Lily has actually read up on what anarchism is by now, or at least avoids going on multiple weird screeds about it being "the worst ideology" in this one. Regardless I've gotten to the point where grown rear end adults screaming about anything that's explicitly for children being bad is just not even remotely in my wheelhouse anymore.
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Apr 1, 2022 05:05
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The 7th Guest posted:you could not pay me to watch 2 hours of lily orchard Apparently it's an April Fool's joke and she's being self-aware about her tendency to have nuclear exclusion zone toxic point-missing takes about otherwise universally loved television shows made for children. Carry on.
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Apr 1, 2022 05:06
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this one's kind of a weird sell for people not into magic the gathering but the channel rhystic studies released a video today that's mostly a kind of meditation on how even though a lot of magic cards are worth a lot of money, they don't necessarily have a value to them since in a vacuum it's just a card with no history or connection to it (as far as when you're looking to buy it for its use), and in almost an important contrast to that concept, the story behind and assembly of a deck composed almost entirely of cards with no monetary value (mostly due to being incredibly bad condition, and the owner explicitly refuses to use sleeves either) but incredible value in terms of the story behind each card, the people it came from, and what led it to its place in the deck. it does kind of talk about the cards and the deck itself, but its more about the connection players have to the cards in their collection and how personal value can be infinitely more important rather than monetary value.
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Apr 1, 2022 05:08
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In other news, Noah Gervais Dark Souls video soon https://twitter.com/MrGervaisWrites/status/1509351443584765954?s=20&t=WbAGJEivzS5obYaovO_Yjw
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The 7th Guest posted:you could not pay me to watch 2 hours of lily orchard
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