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To any UK goons, the Sonic 2 movie apparently came out today (though it still won’t hit the US until next week)
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It's not reviewing great so far but the main complaint seems to be "it's too long". Special poster you can get at some screenings somewhere, Hesse never misses on the art: 
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Apr 1, 2022 20:26
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I saw a lot of complaints that it focuses too much on the Sonic characters and not the humans which, uh, hmm
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Apr 1, 2022 20:36
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kirbysuperstar posted:I saw a lot of complaints that it focuses too much on the Sonic characters and not the humans which, uh, hmm That’s a really weird thing to complain about but ok
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Apr 1, 2022 20:41
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Larryb posted:I am kind of curious how they’re going to handle Shadow though since the current movie is already doing the whole “Sonic meets his match” story I mean frankly this is my criticism of the games version as well Buml0r fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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Apr 1, 2022 20:56
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kirbysuperstar posted:I saw a lot of complaints that it focuses too much on the Sonic characters and not the humans which, uh, hmm so they're stupid... got it
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Apr 1, 2022 20:58
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Just lol that there are people who go into a Sonic movie & hope its about the human characters. The fast blue hedgehog is boring, show me more of this small town cop.
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Apr 1, 2022 21:01
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PLEASE I NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COP
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Apr 1, 2022 21:11
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i would like to see more of the cop played by James Marsden who was the stupidest robot in westworld and cyclops in x-men
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Apr 1, 2022 21:17
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kirbysuperstar posted:I saw a lot of complaints that it focuses too much on the Sonic characters and not the humans which, uh, hmm All those complaints were from the professional movie critics who, I imagine, are not overwhelmingly big ol Sonic fanboys. Looking at Rotten Tomatoes the review scores have it a "rotten" 59%, no audience score yet. The first movie is similar, reviewers at 63%, but the audience score is 93%. The reviewers are probably upset the comedy relief sister isn't getting her own spinoff edit: The first 3 minutes are up on youtube right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xUWYOVcND8 Literally the first thing that happens is an orchestra rendition of Emerald Hill Zone from Sonic 2 so how can I possibly believe that 59% score Macaluso fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Apr 1, 2022 |
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Apr 1, 2022 21:18
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kirbysuperstar posted:I saw a lot of complaints that it focuses too much on the Sonic characters and not the humans which, uh, hmm Are these the imaginary people we've been hearing about who want all the big, stompy robots to get off the screen so that we can show the people in a Transformers movie?
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Apr 1, 2022 21:31
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Macaluso posted:
I don't think that's real
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Apr 1, 2022 21:37
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sonic is a fictional character
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Apr 1, 2022 21:38
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Ah. Well beans.
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Apr 1, 2022 21:38
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I spent 20 dollars on this ticket to a movie where godzilla fights King Kong and Mecha godzilla and I am demanding to know why there isn't more Millie Bobby Brown!!!! -Drake, probably
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Apr 1, 2022 21:40
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So, as fun as it is to mock the hypothetical reviewers who wanted less Sonic and more of the human characters, I actually skimmed through a bunch of the negative reviews on RT and didn't really find anyone saying that? Most of the complaints are about the runtime being too long for the content of the movie and that the central plot and spectacle is largely a paint-by-numbers MCU-style blockbuster we've seen many times already. The closest I could find to critics wanting more of the humans was one who disliked Marzden's reduced role mostly because they felt the interplay between him and Ben Schwartz' Sonic was the strongest point of the first film, and a few critics commenting on how Marzden's character and his wife feel extraneous to the plot but are still present enough that they feel out of place.
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Apr 1, 2022 21:49
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:sonic is a fictional character Nuh uh he's real and my friend.
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Apr 1, 2022 23:50
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There's no such thing as "too long" when it comes to a film involving Idris Elba playing a character whose theme song proudly points out that, unlike Sonic, they don't chuckle.
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Apr 2, 2022 03:37
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https://twitter.com/shadenothing/status/1509237428564992003?s=20&t=zdGXi3p0O5Bj0iyE_741kg
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Apr 2, 2022 19:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyDGWOooas&t=686s
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Apr 2, 2022 19:14
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Jim Carrey is apparently talking smack about retiring so enjoy his Eggman while you can. What an odd yet inspired casting choice. Wonder who would theoretically take up the role if Carrey exits.
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Apr 2, 2022 20:30
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there is nowhere else to go in acting after being eggman
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Apr 2, 2022 20:33
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Not sure, are there any other Hollywood actors that could play an over the top manchild decently you can think of (as Robotnik was honestly a rare case where Jim Carrey playing himself actually worked out pretty well in my opinion)? Speaking of, it’s a shame they didn’t commit to keeping the bald look Carrey had going on at the end of the first movie for this though
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Apr 2, 2022 20:35
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man nurse posted:Jim Carrey is apparently talking smack about retiring so enjoy his Eggman while you can. What an odd yet inspired casting choice. Jim Carrey to me was never like an amazing Robotnik. He wasn't bad, but Jim Carrey only really knows how to play Jim Carrey and I was never as enamored by him as everyone else seemed to be. Maybe they'll forgo Robotnik entirely and just have the villain be his assistant? I dunno how you do a Metal Sonic story without Robotnik though, which I assume is what's coming after Shadow
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Apr 2, 2022 20:36
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the villain will be robo-jim carrey
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Jim Carrey makes a great Eggman because he's an anti-vax republican irl. It's going to be hard to find another actor as delightfully wicked both on- and off-screen.
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Heran Bago posted:Jim Carrey makes a great Eggman because he's an anti-vax republican irl. It's going to be hard to find another actor as delightfully wicked both on- and off-screen. Anti-vax sure, but a Republican? You sure? Jim Carrey: ‘We have to say yes to socialism’
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Apr 2, 2022 21:07
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Doesn't Jim Carrey spend his free time painting insulting pictures of Republicans?
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Apr 2, 2022 22:49
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he's a hollywood liberal
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Apr 2, 2022 22:51
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unlike eggman
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Dabir posted:Doesn't Jim Carrey spend his free time painting insulting pictures of Republicans? He got in a twitter spat with Mussolini’s granddaughter because he made a painting of the dude hanging upside down. (If you’re wondering, she’s in the Italian Senate and carries his beliefs! History refuses to change.) From what I’ve heard, Carrey recanted his antivaxx stuff a while ago. Doesn’t undo the damage he and McCarthy have done.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:unlike eggman Eggman’s apparently a feminist though (but he’s also a narcissist so I’m not entirely sure which if any end of the political spectrum he’d fall)
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Apr 2, 2022 23:02
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that was a mistranslation he's actually a womanizer
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Apr 2, 2022 23:05
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https://twitter.com/bsthlc/status/1510019517455421443
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Apr 2, 2022 23:05
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The Sonic fandom has to be the most talented fandom in video games.
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Apr 2, 2022 23:16
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Certainly more talented than Sonic Team.
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I've seen the film! Ask me anything! Spoiler-free verdict: I really liked it, far more than the first one, which I was quite harsh on, not because I didn't enjoy it (I did), but because it just felt like a huge teetering stack of compromises. The FIRST one, I'm talking about now. Ultimately, I resented the fact that, even if it was a really good example of them, I'd still been made to watch yet another Alvin & the Chipmunks, probably my least favourite sort of film. This SECOND film, though, never felt like a try-hard "you like stuff like this, right guys?" film like so much of the first one did, it always operated with a more successful layer of irony that made me feel like I was in on the joke, and the joke is these films. This is a movie that knows you're here because "Idris Elba as Knuckles" is a phrase that makes you laugh, and it leans into that sensibility without ever getting too arch or meta. And speaking of jokes, this film does a lot of them, and almost all of them made me laugh. There were loads of moments where we laughed at full volume, and that's rare for me in a cinema. I just really got along with how silly the film is, and how much fun it was having being it. Even when it gives you scenes among the boring, bolted-on human characters, like the one in the trailer where they're at a wedding, it peppers them with jokes that actually land. That scene in particular turns out to be going somewhere, and where it goes gave me one of my biggest laughs of the film. (edit - Same goes for the bar scene, the one where they turn up in those cold-weather costumes from the trailer, that scene is so much better than the bar scene in the previous film because it's full of jokes that actually land.) Tails and Knuckles are both done really, really well. They've both changed a lot over the years, so that what I think of as Tails (a small younger brother who looks up to Sonic and has a level of banter going on with him, but is a bit shy and unsure on his own) is quite different to what a young Sonic fan today thinks of as Tails (a slightly sassy inventor), and what I think of as Knuckles (a quite serious loner with a fearsome right hook and a devoted life mission) and what a young Sonic fan today thinks of as Knuckles (either a himbo or just sort of nothing), are quite different things. The writers of this film manage to find ways to square this and create new versions of the characters who may well please nearly everyone. This 90s fan was certainly very pleased. And then there's Robotnik. Finally, this film delivers the Robotnik we could've had from the beginning. Someone said a few posts ago that they wished the film could've stuck with the Eggman look from the end of the first film? I'm not sure where they got the impression that it doesn't, because, it does. Throughout this film he gets to be the hammiest, moustache-twirlingest, Jafar-level Baddie, and I loved every moment he was on screen - which was a LOT. I liked him in the first one, but in this one I *loved* him. And then of course there's the fact that this film aims to do a lot more classic Sonic Stuff than the first one did, and again, I basically think it succeeded at that. Whenever they were doing a Sonic Thing, I felt like they were doing a good interpretation of that thing. The green jewel we saw in the trailer, it's not exactly what we know from existing Sonic media, but at no point was I ever annoyed at their treatment of it. You choose whether it's a spoiler to know this: that jewel is called the Master Emerald. Now, there is a big chunk of "but what about James Marsden?" in the middle of the film, and those characters are purely holdovers from the compromises of the first film and I'm basically against them, but I found them pretty entertaining overall, they kept surprising me (you groan when it emerges that Marsden's scenes are likely to comprise a machismo inadequacy subplot, with him having to compete with some muscly friends of the groom, but where that actually leads is somewhere else entirely, and gave me two big hoot-laughs. Speaking of hoots, you're going to find out more about that owl, and what was going on with those echidnas at the start of the first film. There was some stuff I didn't like, but it feels a bit picky. Like, for instance, once you've patronisingly explained what a fistbump is, using the word fistbump about three times in the process, and then you suggest doing a fistbump, when you do that fistbump, it is going overboard to say "fistbump" while you do the fistbump. Except, for whatever reason, they use the phrase "power bump" in this, which just makes it stand out more. It's that sort of film, where people will say "Oh no, we need to get the thing to over there!" "Yes, or the bad thing will happen!", that sort of film. But whatever, that's for the littler kids. Speaking of kids, they'll love it. If yours are into Sonic, they'll enjoy this, and you won't feel mad that someone made something they enjoy and filled it with chilli dog farts and copaganda. That guy's still in it, but I honestly don't recall him ever being a cop or anyone mentioning that he is one, whereas in the first film they couldn't shut up about it. Yeah I liked this. Had a lovely time. Anyone who listens to my Sonic podcast (I know there's a couple of you here) can expect a review episode soon. It's, er, significantly longer than the film though so it may take a bit to edit. Buml0r fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Apr 4, 2022 |
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knuckles is very stupid and we love him for it
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Oh, I was mostly just referring to the fact that Robotnik was bald at the end of the first film and based on trailers seems to have reverted to his previous look in this one but I could be wrong. I’m glad to hear he acts more like Eggman in this and less like Jim Carrey though.
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Is the guy who played the grinch still around? He was pretty good.
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