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th3t00t posted:But they kept Thom? Thom isn't as important as Elayne or Elaida. I won't be surprised if we see him again, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't either.
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Ego Trip posted:Thom isn't as important as Elayne or Elaida. Thom definitely filmed for S2. He was seen filming Foregate/Cairhien scenes a number of months ago. I think some season 1 choices will make more sense once S2 drops.
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Data Graham posted:I guess it was a gamble they thought was worth trying, since they were already kind of out on a limb with the diverse casting that they knew would draw criticism from loud idiots, so they might as well see if they can fake everybody out into thinking maybe Nynaeve or Perrin and not Generic White Guy might be the Dragon. If the diverse casting was truly 'kind of out on a limb' then Rand wouldn't be white. That's one way they could make it so a 'generic white guy' wasn't the dragon. I never understood why they tried to make Nynaeve possibly the dragon, given she isn't in the right age range. Maybe I missed something, or the show presented Moiraine's search a bit different (I thought she was specifically looking for people born during a certain period of time in the book, might be remembering that wrong though). Invalid Validation posted:Just seemed like a poor gimmick to try and hook people instead of using good writing/acting to make people care.
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Tezer posted:If the diverse casting was truly 'kind of out on a limb' then Rand wouldn't be white. That's one way they could make it so a 'generic white guy' wasn't the dragon. The show changes it a bit so Moiraine knows the rough area but doesn't seem to have the same 'I know the time/date of the Dragon's birth' she does in the book. She and Lan seem to have come to Emond's field because of rumors of Ta'veren instead of following her list of babies/soldiers. In general the show makes prophecy a lot more vague and prone to people not trusting it.
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I'm okay with prophecies being unclear considering how old they are. Something that annoys me about fantasy settings is how much many of them downplay the passage of vast amounts of time. The war of power is further in the past to them than ancient Greece is to us.
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Current Shohreh Aghdashloo in WoT status https://twitter.com/saghdashloo/status/1510024942242480132?s=21&t=_aQ5uP-LdDg_BsNv7DxSPQ it’s not a no 
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On a different note I just got to Mat meeting Tuon on my latest relisten and he walks in, the dice in his head stop, he freezes and tries to figure out why, and one of the things he thinks is something like "usually a forsaken would jump out of a closet". While he's standing half a room away from goddamn Semirhage. It's stuff like that which I just love.
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silvergoose posted:On a different note  I missed that one
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Hexel posted:Personally I didn't like it and thought it was dumb and bad but maybe I got book reader bias Nah, same. I'm not 100% opposed to the idea in and of itself, but it wasn't handled well from start to finish. They didn't stick the landing for a variety of reasons, not all their fault, but it didn't work well nevertheless.
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Cadsuane just said in a pov chapter that she doesn’t know what two of the fish and one of the moons on the ornament thingy in her hair does. Isn’t that thing a ter’angreal? And what does it do?
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Hexel posted:Cadsuane just said in a pov chapter that she doesn’t know what two of the fish and one of the moons on the ornament thingy in her hair does. I think each of the ornaments are separate ter'angreal. Some help detect channeling, including saidin. At least one I think is a well (lets her store some of the One Power inside it). I don't recall others off the top of my head.
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It's a paralis-net, it was a suite of useful things someone might need in combat. It seems like some sort of personal shield, location-sensing gear, emergency Power supply, basically anything you can think of that might be handy in combat. I'd hazard a guess there's a locator beacon tied into it too, though I would think whatever that signals has long since stopped listening.
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Wiki has a rundown on the paralis net https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/Paralis-netquote:A bird that looks "a little like a shrike" is an angreal, it is not very powerful but still steps her up to the top male level of strength, above any unaided woman [2] Hexel posted:Personally I didn't like it and thought it was dumb and bad but maybe I got book reader bias I agree, but on the other hand I thought it sounded like a really cool idea when I first heard they were doing it. Then a couple episodes in I changed my mind. They made it worse by including Egwene in that since the fear of a man who can channel, but one humanity cannot afford to gentle is a large part of what makes the dragon terrifying. It's not all of it, sure, but it's a large part of it. But the biggest problem was just how it affected the overall flow of the story. I don't think it worked. Maybe it could if they approached it differently, idk, but for me, at least, it didn't work well.
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it's funny when lews-rand(i think?) calls the name of it out and cads is shook aha Rand smiled. “And you’re wearing a full paralis-net in your hair, which includes a Well. I’m certain you keep it full, and that should be enough to create a single gateway.” Cadsuane’s face grew expressionless. “I’ve never heard of a paralis-net.” “Cadsuane Sedai,” Rand said softly. “Your net has a few ornaments I don’t recognize—I suspect it is a Breaking-era creation. But I was there when the first ones were designed, and I wore the original male version.” Brolander fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Apr 2, 2022 |
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Brolander posted:it's funny when lews-rand(i think?) calls the name of it out and cads is shook "Oh a paralis net. Yeah I wore the first one, no biggie.
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quote:A ter'angreal in the shape of a sleek fish with sharp fins. It enables the wearer to pull someone else into an involuntary circle under her/his control guiding the flows. It works only if the other person has already seized saidin or embraced saidar. While horrifying, I can absolutely see the reasoning in the circumstances.
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Does anybody ever comment on it when Rand starts talking full on LTT having age of legends knowledge or do they just act extremely uncomfortable and ignore it?
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Elayne's like "that's a huge advantage" but otherwise they don't really go too far into it. He talks about Dreamshards and speaks of his relationship with people from that time and the mistakes he made, but only a tiny bit.
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By the time we get to Zen Rand everybody's preparing for the very immanent Last Battle, so I figure they've got a lot on their plates.
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And prior to that, when the man who is insanely powerful and has taken down several nations starts ranting about things he couldn't possibly know, do you REALLY want to challenge him?
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Hexel posted:Does anybody ever comment on it when Rand starts talking full on LTT having age of legends knowledge or do they just act extremely uncomfortable and ignore it? Lanfear likes it. Rand doesn't talk to age of legends people that often. He's usually trying to kill them. Semirhage brings up you are hearing voices but she doesn't know its LTT not the general insanity. I think the Basheres who are around him generally try to brush it off, he's loving weird but he is who is so I have to put up with it and they don't have the context to know he's not being arbitrarily weird.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:And prior to that, when the man who is insanely powerful and has taken down several nations starts ranting about things he couldn't possibly know, do you REALLY want to challenge him?  I would have a million questionsAnd my first question would be: do you know the song? Isn’t there a point after the Dragonmount epiphany when he becomes Zen Rand when all kinds of poo poo starts growing around him like crops and trees and stuff? Hexel fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Apr 2, 2022 |
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Did anyone leak why mat left? Because he was one of my favorite parts of the season lmao
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Colonel Cool posted:I'm okay with prophecies being unclear considering how old they are. Something that annoys me about fantasy settings is how much many of them downplay the passage of vast amounts of time. The war of power is further in the past to them than ancient Greece is to us. The foretelling Moiraine heard about the dragon (in the book) was the exact date and location of his birth.
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It's been kept very, very quiet. Personal reasons is the understood reason, what those are has yet to be revealed. Maybe it was vaccines, but there's been absolutely nothing concrete.
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Hexel posted:
There's a few. One right after Dragonmount, where he makes the apple orchard bloom. But regarding Singing, he is shielded while in a meeting with Tuon and quietly Sings some plants into bloom to intimidate/confuse/try and convince the Seanchan he can channel despite the shield, or something like that.
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^ ^ ^ There's also a scene where he walks out to the meeting in the middle of Merrilor Field and there's just a trail of lush green grass and blooming flowers behind him everywhere he steps.SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Did anyone leak why mat left? Because he was one of my favorite parts of the season lmao The most official word on the topic anyone's said went like this: "Is that something you can talk about?" "Nope." "K then."
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:That sucks I hope he's OK, I read it as him or someone close to him being very unwell.
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Last I knew vaccines were one of the few causes you could rule out since the timeline didn't make sense for that as a cause. Sounds like something personal though, rather than job issues.
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He also apparently vanished from all social media at the time, and AFAIK has not yet resurfaced.
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That's either a sex-pestin' or a breakdown. Have they cast Elayne yet? It occurred to me that her name sounds sufficiently close to Egwene that she might get Yara Greyjoyed.
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You'd think if it was sex pestery someone would have spoken up by now. I figured his life fell apart and they're all staying silent out of respect.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:That's either a sex-pestin' or a breakdown. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7969428/ Yes, this person.
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CainFortea posted:https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7969428/ And since she's listed as Elayne Trakand on IMDB, I think we can rule out a name change,
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jng2058 posted:I'm with you on Min, though. One of the most fun things about Min's prophecies is getting an early clue and then looking to see the results over time. Using her to predict things that happen in the next or same episode makes the whole thing less fun. But now that they've introduced her, it's pretty likely that she'll be there in Tar Valon when the Wondergirls convene for the first time, so there's an opportunity to do her prophecies right this time. Min was handled fine. They introduced her visions by validating them through knowing things she couldn't possibly know. Now, when she knows something that we don't know but doesn't go into specifics we will have the mysteries.
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Did anyone leak why mat left? Because he was one of my favorite parts of the season lmao Sanderson has been asked about it a couple times and given the language used in his responses it leads me to believe there was some kind of misbehavior or even a mental health issue. I believe the last time he said: "things were happening with Barney" as he shifted uncomfortably. I could be 100% wrong, no one knows anything except the cast and apparently Brando but my own judgment based on what's been said leads me to believe it wasn't covid or some kind of family emergency.
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Worst change they made was making mat an irredeemable thief instead of a rapscallion.
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Invalid Validation posted:Worst change they made was making mat an irredeemable thief instead of a rapscallion. Not sure why you would call him irredeemable. Yes he stole, but he used it buy lanterns so his sisters could participate in the village ceremony - not exactly the most heinous motive.
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