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Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
It’s pretty incredible to see what happens to someone’s mind when a crippling Twitter addiction is combined with the egotism of the influence it affords you when you’ve got a large following . You get the impression that Linehan, of everything he’s pissed away in his life, it’s his Twitter account he misses the most, as his whole life came to revolve around it.

But basically all that happened was he reaped the benefits of being one of the people Twitter suggests you follow when you first create an account, right? It was him, Stephen Fry, Charlie Brooker etc as famous Twitter uses back when the idea of interacting with famous people on the internet was something of a novelty. And everything just snowballed from there…

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Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
"At least the good people of the Daily Mail say I'm a decent guy" will surely help him sleep at night

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The soul of a true poster, only in the ratio can we truly feel alive.

He does have the feel of someone who became a posting superstar and was not capable of handling it, presumably having never burned out on a smaller platform before ascending to the big leagues.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 2, 2022

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


My mam had a rant about how lovely & cruel Westminster is for the "conversion therapy ban except for trans people" the other morning & I felt quite proud, not bad for someone born while Churchill was PM

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
tbh I was concerned that they wouldn't be able to write a conversion therapy ban that included trans people that wasn't so shoddily worded that it risked banning affirmation therapies (or had a further chilling effect)

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

tbh I was concerned that they wouldn't be able to write a conversion therapy ban that included trans people that wasn't so shoddily worded that it risked banning affirmation therapies (or had a further chilling effect)

I had assumed that "conversion therapy ban" under most UK governments would just ban affirming therapies and nothing else tbh.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
Looking forward to all the TERFS chanting "One of us! One of us!" as a ripped, bearded transman emerges from the ladies' toilets, carrying their gametes aloft on a bit of tissue.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

TACD posted:

Well yea but you’re probably also buying booze and kitchen roll and petrol and whatever as well. I agree the value proposition is less attractive if you’re only buying toilet roll lol

I've always thought of CostCo as being like "bargain" stores. I went to a "Dollarama" here in Canada yesterday for the first time in a while. They sell stuff cheap (not for a dollar, amusingly - everything is $1.25 - equivalent to about 71p). You can make genuinely quite good savings on some stuff. I normally shop at Food Basics which is the cheapest supermarket in my area by quite a bit, and even then you can save on stuff. They have a limited food selection but you can get canned beans and other stuff that are like, good, healthy staples cheaper than you'd be able to at the supermarket, BUT other stuff is like, hilariously expensive.

They sell instant noodles there, also for $1.25, when I know for a fact that identical noodles available in the Food Basics supermarket, literally next door, for 59 cents. The psychology (and the marketing) around such places, as well as CostCo, is that it's "special" and "you save money there" so people go there with that in their heads. "All the things here are bargains" where in reality there's actually a fairly small subset of things which are. Much of the rest of the stuff in the store is either roughly at parity with a regular supermarket, or actually works out as more expensive. I'm not saying you can't save money by shopping there, but you have to have your wits about you.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


OwlFancier posted:

The soul of a true poster, only in the ratio can we truly feel alive.

He does have the feel of someone who became a posting superstar and was not capable of handling it, presumably having never burned out on a smaller platform before ascending to the big leagues.

I was a "veteran" of the vn boards and the twirlin wars (an early 00s version of pissflaps... funny how every subforum has at least one) and burnt out posting before I discovered SA had a forum. Ahh the old days.

In other news, has anyone had any experience with ME/CFS and the NHS? My wife was diagnosed not too long ago and she handed me the symptom leaflet she got and its a huge checklist for everything that is me. I've been looking up ADHD interactions/similarities and dang. Everything about hypersensitivity, lethargy and pain. There's a lot of commonality.

I'm just not convinced the NHS will do poo poo over me talking to my ADHD doctors. It seems to be another one like IBS that is "well, you have it... It just needs to be managed, bye!"

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
The NHS won't do poo poo re: ME/CFS, no.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Grey Hunter posted:

Looks like there is another run on fuel going on atm...

They've got the "no more than 2 of these items" notices back up on the bogroll shelves in my local Sainsburys too.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
I will say if they offer to try you with antidepressants and you're not on them already it's worth giving it a try. It doesn't imply you are inventing the disease but it might help symptoms. I say this because I had a friend who would not even try because she took it as some kind of insult.Fibromyalgia has some doctors taking it seriously now -- see if you can get a referral to a rheumatologist.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Barry Foster posted:

The NHS won't do poo poo re: ME/CFS, no.

Well for both there's no cure or even specifically useful treatment, just relief of symptoms and training of coping mechanisms. As such if what Mebh is doing for their ADHD is helping it's probably not worthwhile changing horses, but if it's not it can't hurt to ask (and vice versa for their partner's CFS).

After all it's not like there's a definitive test that can actually say that someone definitely has either CFS or ADHD - all you can do is rule out as many of the other things that could cause those symptoms as you can. It's not impossible they're both on a much wider spectrum of disorders where diagnoses tend towards the things that have at least been given names and diagnostic criteria simply because there's no blood test you can do to say "Aha, they're critically short on attentionite and wakeywakeyic acid!".

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Comrade Fakename posted:

Actually the entire Daily Mail article is hilarious, though of course, there is transphobia in it:
This is honestly one of the most wonderful and uplifting Mail articles I've ever read :unsmith:
This is exactly how it should work! Hateful man keeps saying and doing hateful things, and gradually gets frozen out by more and more of his colleagues, friends, and family. None of us can fix you but we don't have to put up with you.

WhatEvil posted:

I've always thought of CostCo as being like "bargain" stores.
...
I'm not saying you can't save money by shopping there, but you have to have your wits about you.
Aye you're not wrong TBH, there's plenty of name brand stuff that doesn't really work out much cheaper.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
I love the bit where he's like "they probably want me to kill myself", no dude we just want you to stop being a bigot on the internet, just take your father ted it crowd money and play video games for the rest of your life, everyone will have a better time, but the guy simply cannot imagine an existence where he isn't using every spare moment to hate people he doesn't understand

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Everyone I know has stopped talking to me and nobody wants to work with me and hundreds of thousands of people unfollowed me because they didn't want to listen to my shite and this only proves that I am right and everybody else is wrong!!!

oxford_town
Aug 6, 2009

HopperUK posted:

I will say if they offer to try you with antidepressants and you're not on them already it's worth giving it a try. It doesn't imply you are inventing the disease but it might help symptoms. I say this because I had a friend who would not even try because she took it as some kind of insult.Fibromyalgia has some doctors taking it seriously now -- see if you can get a referral to a rheumatologist.

most rheumatologists do not have anything to offer for ME/CFS

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

oxford_town posted:

most rheumatologists do not have anything to offer for ME/CFS

Why I mentioned fibromyalgia which has some of the same symptoms - just a way of getting in front of a specialist really. The NHS is pisspoor for ME/CFS as others have said.

oxford_town
Aug 6, 2009

HopperUK posted:

Why I mentioned fibromyalgia which has some of the same symptoms - just a way of getting in front of a specialist really. The NHS is pisspoor for ME/CFS as others have said.

Similarly most rheumatologists have little to offer fibromyalgia other than ruling out other conditions (i.e. those that they do actually treat).

And it's low-down in NHS funding priorities because:

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Well for both there's no cure or even specifically useful treatment, just relief of symptoms and training of coping mechanisms.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I'm 16 years into a CFS/ME diagnosis, and there's absolutely gently caress all available that really helps. Up until recently, they promoted things like Graded Exercise Therapy, which has actually ended up killing people I know. CBT is the other thing they promote. As for medicines, none of the NHS options have had any effect on the pain flare ups, and nothing on the NHS can really regulate and control the sleeping patterns. I've exhausted basically everything bar opiate meds, which I'm leaving as a very last resort.

The only medicine that has really helped has been cannabis, which thankfully is legally available if you have a chronic pain diagnosis, evidence of trying at least two conventional treatments, and having enough money to fund a private prescription (which is about the same as buying black market). :420: helps for greatly for my pain, dexterity, mood, appetite, nausea, balance etc

But there's nothing that will cure the fatigue, and nothing that will give you energy. You can only ever borrow it from the future, having to repay it with total rest at a huge premium. I'm now at the stage where I'm juggling trying to exist with having 20 mins of housework gently caress me up for weeks (I stopped coping 2 years ago), and I'm only just managing to go out to do my weekly shop in the electric wheelchair, and that's it...

My only real advice is you can't fight CFS/ME, as you'll lose. You can only wait, and hope that things will improve, and things do for many...

Mesopotamia
Apr 12, 2010
There's a (edit: very small) part of me that does actually feel bad for Lineham. His personality change and general obsession to the point of losing, well, everything feels like some sort of breakdown.

Mad what one joke about Iran does to a mf

Mesopotamia fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Apr 2, 2022

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It's not the worst thing that's happened to someone for making a joke about Iran

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I wonder if his personality has changed or whether or not he is just a generally self obsessed person who has hitherto channeled it into being a famous tv guy.

Much like you can certainly read plenty of rowling's politics in her books. The absolute certainty of one's own correctness manifesting in aggression towards others while claiming to be the victim/reasonable one seems to be a very common thread in GC types which I think is why it's so endemic in the media class. So much so that I think the transphobia is more of an expression of that personality type than it is the origination point of the hostility.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Apr 2, 2022

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Ironically enough, I think Glinner is woke, in one of the original pejorative definitions. Like the Louis Farrakhan school of Black Islam where you start off pretty progressive on race and class and community issues, but through quite a narrow, rigid, and self promoting framework, so then when sometime later some group calls you out on your views on women or something rather than introspect at all you double down on it all being society that's wrong and before long you start ranting about Jewish gay hormones.

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
The funniest thing about the Linehan arc is how even the people’s he’s desperate for adulation and recognition from seem to have gotten sick of him. And in the case of Rowling, either ignore him altogether or isn’t aware of his existence, much to his clear disappointment. So now all he’s got left is courting the attention of the alt-right ghouls he originally gained so much liberal-Twitter clout in criticising.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also I think why it is often comorbid with "I was cool in the 90's" style progressivisim where you weren't actually that clever or interested but you were vaguely aware that saying "I would actually not spit on a gay person if I saw them in the street" was the height of counterculture and now society has moved on and you're just a sad old liberal with a spent creative output and even your pile of money can't make you feel cool again, and for some reason you can't just buy a porsche and crash it like a normal person.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Angepain posted:

I love the bit where he's like "they probably want me to kill myself", no dude we just want you to stop being a bigot on the internet, just take your father ted it crowd money and play video games for the rest of your life, everyone will have a better time, but the guy simply cannot imagine an existence where he isn't using every spare moment to hate people he doesn't understand

I mean I'd be fine with him killing himself if it meant we didn't have to hear about him all the loving time

that probably makes me a bad person, but tbh I don't really care

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/mikebailey92/status/1510221696451719175

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Ah yes, Little Britain, a famously pleasant and progressive show with nothing anybody could possibly object to in it

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I don't think I'd have any idea who Graham linehan is if it wasn't for this thread

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


It is pretty incredible that two women accusing a senior Labour staff member of sexual harassment has already fallen off of the BBC News front page and isn’t mentioned in the Guardian at all.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Guavanaut posted:

It's not the worst thing that's happened to someone for making a joke about Iran


You forgot to add the obligatory line about how the west is just as bad (maybe refer to the US execution rate?), in case lurkers weren’t aware that the west does bad things too.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

therattle posted:

You forgot to add the obligatory line about how the west is just as bad (maybe refer to the US execution rate?), in case lurkers weren’t aware that the west does bad things too.

The West has even worse horrors.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
I thought this was quite interesting

Glinner posted:

But when is someone in authority going to say, "Hang on a second. This is insane. When will the adults finally enter the room?"

In his mind all he needs to do is hold grimly on until his protest finds its way up to a high enough level of management that has Full Possession of The Facts and they'll write him a letter of apology that he can frame on the wall.
It'll never occur to him that the adults have been in the room all along telling him to gently caress off.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Adults are overrated anyway

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The West has even worse horrors.

Well played. :argh:

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Thread, I need your help. I think I have just watched Johnny Cash singing 'Ghost Riders in the sky' on the Muppet Show. Have I had a stroke? If I'm going to to go, this seems oddly appropriate.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If it was a live performance then possibly but otherwise that seems fine.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Trickjaw posted:

Thread, I need your help. I think I have just watched Johnny Cash singing 'Ghost Riders in the sky' on the Muppet Show. Have I had a stroke? If I'm going to to go, this seems oddly appropriate.

You clearly haven’t googled “Johnny Cash Muppets Show”

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Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



OwlFancier posted:

If it was a live performance then possibly but otherwise that seems fine.

Going on the sideburns and confederate flags, it could go either way.

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