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Rohan's biggest problem is that there is so, so much of it. They spent two years repeating the same stories in the same environments. Gondor by comparison feels really breezy, there's way more variety with no areas overstaying their welcome and you're back off the book-beaten path doing things instead of cleaning dishes and watching the important people talk.
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What made Rohan such a huge, boring slog was that it was basically a single zone stretched out and made to fill two whole expansions. East Rohan: 1. Go to <quest hub>. 2. Talk to the thane in the mead hall. 3. Prove your mettle by performing 6-12 cookie-cutter quests for random citizens. 4. Do a final instanced quest. 6. Repeat West Rohan: 1. Run minor errands for Éowyn. 2. Repeat This isn’t even getting into the mounted combat, which was a great idea on paper but gets extremely annoying about 10 seconds into the first tutorial quest.
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Mar 23, 2022 18:48
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Comrade Koba posted:What made Rohan such a huge, boring slog was that it was basically a single zone stretched out and made to fill two whole expansions. Honestly this is a problem even pre-Rohan. I've got a character stalled out in Dunland and it's just non stop go to village, talk to village head person, kill some poo poo or get some boar butts etc, move on. Reminds me a lot of the procedurally generated radiant quests in Bethesda games.
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Mar 23, 2022 19:47
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Cyrano4747 posted:Honestly this is a problem even pre-Rohan. I've got a character stalled out in Dunland and it's just non stop go to village, talk to village head person, kill some poo poo or get some boar butts etc, move on. Reminds me a lot of the procedurally generated radiant quests in Bethesda games. Yeah, don’t even get me started on Stunland. If I ever hear that guitar strumming again I’m going to have an anxiety attack. What makes Rohan worse IMO is that the Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V:ing of quest hubs is so much more lazily done. West Rohan is better, but also ends up making you feel like an unimportant bit character just observing all the important events from the book.
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Mar 23, 2022 20:12
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Comrade Koba posted:95-105 is Gondor, which didn’t get a formal expansion of its own. AFAIK it was all released as a series of quest packs available from the LotRO store. Gondor has multiple areas that you'll hit in order as part of the epic quest: Western Gondor: Bay of Belfalas/city of Dol Amroth Central Gondor: a lot of smaller towns, a set-piece battle in Pelargir that's the most popular big battle to run through for rewards Eastern Gondor: mostly Osgiliath, aka Stalingrad-on-the-Anduin Minas Tirith: the largest city in Middle Earth and before the 64 bit client the destroyer of everyone's gameplay thanks to the game literally being unable to render the entire city Far Anorien: where you prepare the way for the Riders of Rohan to save the day and meet the Wose, proof that SSG is hellbent to put into the game literally every crazy thing Tolkien put in the books Pellenor Fields: absolutely the best set-piece battle in the game, it's exactly as epic as you'd expect from the movies and really well done Ithilien: follow along with Aragorn as he marches to Mordor to personally kick Sauron's rear end The Wastes: where, with Aragorn, you arrive at Mordor and find out the "personally kick Sauron's rear end" plan needs work This is all really great content - the main problem is that SSG decided for the vast majority of it they weren't going to raise the level cap beyond 100, so you will outlevel it almost immediately. Luckily, being higher level than expected will help quite a bit in Mordor where the difficulty level jumps up significantly, but for most of this you're going to want to ignore most side quests and just concentrate on the epic. Lum_ fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Comrade Koba posted:The Gondor content in general is supposedly way better than the Rohan stuff From what I remember of it, it is, but that's a low bar to clear. Of the content I played and remember, I'd rank them best to worst as: Moria Mirkwood Shadows of Angmar (Western) Gondor Helm's Deep (only because some of the HD fights were fun with friends) Riders of Rohan Transition from P2P to F2P and the increased monetization efforts Isengard I still need to get back to this and play Minas Morgul/Moria/etc though. Going from Moria/Mirkwood to Isengard is very, very jarring though. xZAOx posted:- The final questline concludes after you finish this huge grind to rebuild a town (I think it's a minimum of like a month?). I thought it was just a big side quest with some cosmetics and it had zero impact on the Epic questline? I honestly don't remember what the ending was aside from you rebuilding a thing. I also was tempted to rate Helm's Deep higher solely because when it came out there was a bug that caused my Captain's mounted combat skills to cooldown super fast. Like the big AOE nuke on a 1 minute(?) cooldown was up every 4-5 seconds and the big single target damage skill was spammable, so I was able to solo those raid-side warbands in about 1-2 minutes (unless they had a bunch of ranged damage) and melt any regular or elite-tier enemy for quests. 
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Cyrano4747 posted:Dunland Hah, when I posted earlier, I almost griped about something when I realized "wait no, that's Dunland, not Rohan". Every hub in Dunland is "we don't trust you! You're lying!" *do a bunch of work* "Okay we trust you now. You should talk to the next town." and it's literally the exact same thing, like 5-6 times. it's the only zone I remember being actively annoyed with, and I've done every zone except Gundabad stuff (because I haven't bought it).
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Cyrano4747 posted:Honestly this is a problem even pre-Rohan. I've got a character stalled out in Dunland and it's just non stop go to village, talk to village head person, kill some poo poo or get some boar butts etc, move on. Reminds me a lot of the procedurally generated radiant quests in Bethesda games. When I rolled up my champion years ago I over-leveled them in Mirkwood (started at 61-62 due to running lots of Moria content) and Enedwaith sufficiently that I went from Enedwaith to the pre-Rohan zone by Lothlorien and completely skipped Isengard on them. It was absolutely, 100% worth it. Spent more time in the best parts of the game and skipped the absolute worst. I also had a bunch of teal level 60-65 gear from places like Warg Pens that I loaded with my Captain and tossed to the Champion and due to the stat allocation those items remained better than anything that you could find/craft in Riders of Rohan as well, iirc (and you'd just replace them with higher level versions eventually).
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Lum_ posted:the uch-gwirod requires us to give welcome to duvodiad these are desperate times for the rohirrim
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Comrade Koba posted:these are desperate times for the rohirrim but it is the "row-he-reem" or "ro-here-um" version?
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I really don't want to solo these instances, but it looks like nobody wants to do Inn of the Forsaken lmfao
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Mar 24, 2022 16:23
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I thought that was one that required multiple people because of like some puzzles or something?
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Mar 24, 2022 16:29
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Multiple people helps but pet classes or killy classes can solo much of it. My loremaster got buried in a tide of skeletons but my warden made it to the final boss and got wrecked by it. It also requires multiple runs to get all the deeds IIRC.
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My Hunter also made it to the end of the Inn of the Forsaken and got wrecked by the final boss. That's when I decided no more instances.
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yeah, a lot of the level 50 epic quest instances have similar issues. Sure you're bolstered into godhood and can kill anything, but it doesn't help when the nimrod NPC you're supposed to keep alive yeets herself into a group of 6 NPCs and holds aggro on all of them
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I still contend that they could do some moderate tweaks to mounted combat to make it acceptable. The easiest is to increase the turn rate of horses across the board by 20-25%. That alone would make it less like ice skating and generally make the warhorses controllable enough to even use as a regular mount (which right now you basically don't do unless you are only planning on going forward and never turning). Lately, I've also settled on the idea that they should make it so that when you turn, your horse loses speed, which inherently would also increase the turn rate. But yeah, right now the warhorse turning is basically Rohan Drift even on the light horses that have the best turn rate so it becomes go forward, do attacks, maybe slow down and turn, do another pass. It's tedious at best.
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Cutedge posted:I still contend that they could do some moderate tweaks to mounted combat to make it acceptable. There are LI relics which literally do that, increase the turn rate, and I can confirm they make things much better in navigating around. Unfortunately, bridle LIs can't actually be improved right now as a result of their last systems change, so if you haven't slotted those relics already then rip.
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i remember a lot of circling things on horseback while throwing fireballs at them, not sure if i was mounted combatting correctly. can confirm that the bridle and skills on a light horse helped a lot.
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The issue (well one of them) with riding isn't even the weird turning, it's the Initial D drift mechanic. I'm not sure if anyone who worked on the system has ever ridden a horse in their life or watched someone ride a horse.Kaysette posted:i remember a lot of circling things on horseback while throwing fireballs at them, not sure if i was mounted combatting correctly. can confirm that the bridle and skills on a light horse helped a lot. Yes, there was no reason not to just kite everything (and to skip the warbands that had archers since those would just gently caress you up immediately).
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I was one of the few people that actually really enjoyed mounted combat in Rohan, annoys me that they did worse than abandon it, warsteeds are essentially just worse than regular mounts once you get out of the Rohan area, a monster looks at you in Mordor and you get dismounted, while you can just zip on by on a regular horse. Glad I didn't spend $100s on warsteed cosmetics, only bought the champion appearance since they weren't account bound. (which was another annoyance)
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The concept of mounted combat and warsteeds was cool as hell, making your mount more unique with unlockable colors/bardings and a separate leveling track with associated traits was a great idea and apart from the chocobo companion in FFXIV I don’t think any other MMO has tried it (but I could be wrong). It’s a shame that the only thing that was so lacking in execution was the actual combat. The fact that nearly all quests involving mounted combat are literally just “chase down 10 mounted orcs” didn’t help much either.
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    I've been taking a lot of (mostly) landscape screenshots. I really enjoy the aesthetic of the game.
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Glory to Italia!
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I’m on Landroval and from the looks of it there’s at least a handful of people in the goon guild that log on (almost) every day?
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Yeah mostly just looking to join up. Beregorne in game
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Mar 29, 2022 06:42
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ILL Machina posted:Yeah mostly just looking to join up. Beregorne in game I've got a couple level 10s and could level up with you. Same thing has been stopping me from playing. Let me know when you start up or shoot me a PM.
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Oh I've been around. Not really trying to level particulary quickly. This is my third or fourth go around and I think I'll lock and alt up before I hit twenty so I can do yondershire at level. Not feeling rushed, but I'm looking forward to the new content. I did the leg servers to fifty when they launched and played through moria but not much further when turbine originally went f2p. Haven't seen rohan or Gondor before. Just been grinding leaves for festival stuff. Holy crap the plugin compendium and managers are so nice compared to the old days...
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Is it normal for SSG to take their time with support tickets? I've had a ticket open for the past 3 days with no response.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is it normal for SSG to take their time with support tickets? I've had a ticket open for the past 3 days with no response. I got a reply on March 10th to a ticket I opened on December 27th.
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Freakazoid_ posted:Is it normal for SSG to take their time with support tickets? I've had a ticket open for the past 3 days with no response. They've publicly talked several times the past, I dunno, 6 months or whatever about issues staffing CS. They're very, very behind.
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How is that possible? They only manage two games!
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Freakazoid_ posted:How is that possible? They only manage two games! Old MMOs have their staff cut down to the bone in order to basically keep them chugging along and providing a modest profit to whoever bought them for that exact purpose.
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The bigger problem I think is employment issues due to the pandemic. CS is a good remote work job, most wages have went up, so finding good people for a d-tier mmo that probably doesn't pay much and has archaic support tools and you get told "we have months off backlog" on day one... Yeah, them having trouble with it makes sense. Especially when the role doesn't directly generate profit, typically.
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Freakazoid_ posted:How is that possible? They only manage two games! If their support is all staffed in-house it's probably one of the lowest priority positions their HR team is hiring. If they work with a BPO for their support needs then either they have a bad contract or they aren't getting enough of a budget to scale the vendor's team to their ticket volumes.
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Sorry to bring this up again but how does one get an invite to the kin these days?
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Got pretty excited for the April changes so I logged in to putz about for a bit today. Saw my banks full of tradeskill poo poo and immediately froze. How important are tradeskills or are they at all? I think I burnt myself out last time leveling them all as I messed about. I've got friends that agreed to try this out again with the April changes to the F2P but I'll be drat if I want to even farm that kind of stuff.
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Givin posted:Got pretty excited for the April changes so I logged in to putz about for a bit today. Saw my banks full of tradeskill poo poo and immediately froze. You're probably better off just harvesting metal and/or lumber near you as you adventure and selling it at the AH, then using the money to buy levelling gear off the AH or paying a crafter to make it directly. I think the only crafts that actually matter in the endgame are cook and scholar, since they mainly make consumable buff items.
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