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You're not allowed to live in the midwest if you have dreams. The huge, empty sky stares down at you and your little aspirations until you either get the gently caress out or let them go like an adult.
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PizzaProwler posted:in case anyone would like to join us this fills me with a powerful dismay
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 09:51 |
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its geoblocked lmao
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 10:08 |
SNL: our comedy is the envy of the world, keep it under lock and key
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 13:16 |
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Was SNL always bad? All I know about it is that it's been painfully unfunny and that the muppets used to work on it for a little while.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 13:36 |
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It's all been downhill since the happy fun ball
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 13:45 |
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Azhais posted:It's all been downhill since the happy fun ball do not taunt Happy Fun Ball
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 13:46 |
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Josef bugman posted:Was SNL always bad? All I know about it is that it's been painfully unfunny and that the muppets used to work on it for a little while. I think peak SNL is whatever was on when you were like 10-15
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 13:51 |
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SNL is pretty funny. The trick is to avoid any political or topical sketches.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 13:54 |
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Empty Sandwich posted:do not taunt Happy Fun Ball
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 14:09 |
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Josef bugman posted:Was SNL always bad? All I know about it is that it's been painfully unfunny and that the muppets used to work on it for a little while. The joke that SNL was best when you first discovered it at age 8-15 is accurate. It's also just lensing from how sketch comedy is. Every single sketch comedy show that ever existed, including yes the one you personallyfeel is unassailable, was always far more garbage than gold. Yes even that one which was so important and formative to the art form or whatever-- Monty Python, Kids in the Hall, Fry and Laurie, UCB, WKUK, SNL, In Living Color, Mr. Show, Portlandia, Little Britain, Key and Peele, SCTV, Chapelle's Show, MadTV, Carol Burnett, Mitchell and Webb, etc. Every single one has a huge hit : miss ratio. It's endemic to the form-- having to produce anywhere from 4 to 20 sketches per episode with the same team on a massive, usually coke-fueled turnaround inevitably produces loads and loads of duds, misfires, or just plain dull sketches that don't really do anything wrong but fail to impress on the memory. And whether you discovered a show at 12, 22, 32, or just watched a highlight reel, there's some weird inverse negativity bias that happens with sketch comedy where you only remember the best bits-- the moments of true chemistry, of kismet, of whichever performers where charismatic and having a good time and when everything came together and "clicked." Because the rest of it just isn't worth committing to memory and you'd have to actively try. SNL is also in a weird place, because of the streaming era, and still doesn't really know wtf to do with itself. See, for the better part of half a century, SNL is known to the wider North American public as the launching ground for Comedy TV/Movie stars and has a genuinely impressive deep bench of talent who went onto make dozens of projects that are considered US cultural staples both with and without SNL involvement. That's.... not really how the media industry works anymore though. So what's happened is you have one of the largest casts SNL has ever seen-- seriously they've got like 30 people on the cast list or something it's loving nuts-- all fighting for very limited screen time while the owners desperately try to figure out how to have the same footprint when media consumption is insanely diversified. There's no longer a main media aqueduct in most people's homes, and just trying to astroturf the gently caress out of YouTube and Streaming Sites kind-of works but struggles to compete with no-name nobodies making 15 second TikTok shorts in their weirdly featureless apartments. The stars know this too. There's no launch vehicle coming anymore. Ain't no "Deuce Bigalo" chances being given out anymore. Pete Davidson is the only one who has managed to really do anything major outside of SNL in the last decade because he's weirdly affable to celebrities who come on the show on top of being a solid comedian. Kate McKinnon was the last time they really tried to launch a homegrown star and whether it's her, the projects available, or both, it's just not happening for any of them. So many of their top players have literally been there a full decade or very close to it-- Aidy Bryant, Cecily Strong, McKinnon, Chris Redd, Kyle Mooney, etc. And that bleeds into the quality of the show. It's a whole lot of very talented people with nothing to do, nowhere to go, a tiny sliver of time to show their stuff, and pretty much no path to follow even if they do manage to land big hits. So there's not much room nor incentive to do anything more than shuffle the chairs, do the riffs, collect the paycheck, and hope something magically opens up. ----------------------------------------------- Tax because gently caress you, I don't regret a word:
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 14:40 |
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Nah, KITH missed very, very rarely.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 15:04 |
SNL is always incredible in retrospect, but dire and disappointing whenever you actually see it live.
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I see you didn't mention I Think You Should Leave in your list of flawed sketch comedies. Good.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 15:11 |
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I take exception to the idea that Little Britain had any sketches that hit
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 15:18 |
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SNL stands for Some Nice Laughs
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 15:21 |
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Leon Sumbitches posted:I see you didn't mention I Think You Should Leave in your list of flawed sketch comedies. Good. But it should, because the only memorable scenes of a season could fit an half hour episode and nothing of value would be lost. oh, baby, baby, bay-bay-bay Tenebrais posted:I take exception to the idea that Little Britain had any sketches that hit It's like The Fast Show where they're really just repeating the same sketches over and over again with minor changes.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 15:23 |
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There's 30 people in the SNL cast now? Did they just stop leaving or what?
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 15:56 |
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This is still the funniest goddamned thing to me, even having seen it at its debut all those years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmqeZl8OI2M
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 16:34 |
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The weekend update guys are consistently good, other than that you can still find a few good clips on YouTube of actual sketches. I can't imagine how terrible an actual full episode is nowadays though.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 16:48 |
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kdrudy posted:Nah, KITH missed very, very rarely.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 16:55 |
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gleebster posted:There's 30 people in the SNL cast now? Did they just stop leaving or what?
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 16:57 |
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gleebster posted:There's 30 people in the SNL cast now? Did they just stop leaving or what? They don't have to anymore. Lorne used to have a fairly strict 'this is your job and you show up to work every day, if you want to make a movie do it in the summer' policy. Because Lorne still blames himself for Farley's death, his addiction spiraled after getting fired from SNL, he wanted to keep Pete Davidson close to prevent him doing the same so he started cutting him slack to dissappear for months for rehab/movies. Then Lorne had to extend the same to everyone, so now cast members keep a steady paycheck and still get to leave for a month here and there to film whatever failure they're working on.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 16:59 |
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I can't believe I'm saying this but that makes Lorne better than pretty much any boss I've ever had lmao
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 17:11 |
Yeah I wasn’t ready for that story to take a “the rear end in a top hat exec had a conscience” turn
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Milo and POTUS posted:I can't believe I'm saying this but that makes Lorne better than pretty much any boss I've ever had lmao If it makes you feel any worse, he's probably a monster to the writers and production staff.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 19:09 |
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SNL’s production schedule used to be propped up by literally everyone openly doing cocaine all of the time. That's not so much a thing anymore, but they're still on the same schedule. Something had to give.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 19:28 |
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I don't think Key & Peele has ever had a single miss. They also weren't live sketch comedy like SNL, though. It's very different when your sketches are single camera 10 minute short films with the flexibility of multiple takes and editing.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 19:35 |
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Plenty of the recent SNL staff have had successful departures to other TV shows or movies, or done successful individual stand-up shows. I don't think it's SNL specifically is struggling to create comedy stars to the magnitude of like Eddie Murphy or Julia Louis-Dreyfus, it's more that the entire industry is more diversified so that whole era of having a small number of big stars is kind of gone.Sagebrush posted:I don't think Key & Peele has ever had a single miss. yeah Key and Peele were pretty drat consistent. Their skits that make fun of black names in football are about the only ones that whiff imo.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 19:40 |
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Little Britain had an occasional sketch that wasn't based on unutterable cruelty, but I can't say even those ones were particularly funny.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 20:03 |
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Lorne has kept everyone on the cast during the COVID years except for those who have left by choice, which has led to the largest cast they’ve had (22 people all trying to get screen time) but has also let a bunch of people continue to draw a paycheck during a very uncertain time. I would expect that a decent portion of the cast will leave after the conclusion of this season.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 20:10 |
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Josef bugman posted:Was SNL always bad? All I know about it is that it's been painfully unfunny and that the muppets used to work on it for a little while. You sound an awful lot like someone who wants less cowbell.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 20:48 |
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This. This is the loving worst. Why won't these little meth goblins leave me alone and take their idolatery elsewhere.
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 20:50 |
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This skit was funny, and it was not made during my formative years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rImxuuD_kwM
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 20:53 |
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Karate Bastard posted:You sound an awful lot like someone who wants less cowbell. And doesn't want to wear little items to show patriotism
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# ? Apr 3, 2022 21:37 |
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I don't understand this political compass
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Mr. Lobe posted:I don't understand this political compass turn it sideways it's loss
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