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Ronnie
May 13, 2009

Just in case.
So this NFT poo poo has been rolled out to move discussion away from The No10 Party's, right?

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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
No, despite what the twitter bots tell you, no one gives a poo poo about NFTs.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Ronnie posted:

So this NFT poo poo has been rolled out to move discussion away from The No10 Party's, right?

If you're going to try distracting attention from the Downing Street parties, it's probably not a good idea to draw it towards the Bored Ape Yacht Club.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Ronnie posted:

So this NFT poo poo has been rolled out to move discussion away from The No10 Party's, right?

from the supporting evidence of every time they talked about using ~the blockchain~ to solve Brexit issues I'm pretty sure that the answer is no, they're just loving stupid enough to think that NFTs are in fact a good thing

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




The NFT money train mysteriously dried up at around the same time as the Russian sanctions began, so they've missed the train on this.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Necrothatcher posted:

The NFT money train mysteriously dried up at around the same time as the Russian sanctions began, so they've missed the train on this.

Lol that reminds me of whoever that awful celeb was that thought instagram was screwing with them after their likes dried up when the Russians got blocked and they didn't put 2 and 2 together. Anyone remember?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Jedit posted:

If you're going to try distracting attention from the Downing Street parties, it's probably not a good idea to draw it towards the Bored Ape Yacht Club.
I don't know, using the Windsors as a distraction seems absolutely par for the course.

Ripley
Jan 21, 2007

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Lol that reminds me of whoever that awful celeb was that thought instagram was screwing with them after their likes dried up when the Russians got blocked and they didn't put 2 and 2 together. Anyone remember?

That's Tulsi Gabbard, very stable and self aware individual.

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-instagram-supressing-voice-big-tech-1691389

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Guavanaut posted:

Why's it going to take them so long? The queen's already generated a nonce.

:golfclap:

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Guavanaut posted:

Why's it going to take them so long? The queen's already generated a nonce.

new thread title please

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Man this has actually upset me a bit, she seemed lovely :(

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jakabite posted:

Man this has actually upset me a bit, she seemed lovely :(

Yeah, she was a genuinely talented actor and I always felt sorry for her that she ended up so marginalised when Eastenders did their big turn from slightly ridiculous but essentially realistic to raiding Guy Ritchie's bins for scripts in the 00s. Although they did at least give her the monologue episode, which might be the best thing I've ever seen on a soap.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

She was also a Tory. Make of that what you will.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


WhatEvil posted:

She was also a Tory. Make of that what you will.

Ah man. Very slow Milkshake Duck.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

WhatEvil posted:

She was also a Tory. Make of that what you will.

So was my Mum, what's that got to do with anything? I mean I know that this is an odd opinion to voice in a thread for political discussion, but not *everything* has to be seen through the prism of politics.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


goddamnedtwisto posted:

So was my Mum, what's that got to do with anything? I mean I know that this is an odd opinion to voice in a thread for political discussion, but not *everything* has to be seen through the prism of politics.

...mods?!

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

It happens to basically everyone notable who dies, people will say rip and then someone pops up to remind us all that actually they went to church on a sunday and therefore by extension endorsed and supported the many crimes of the catholic church

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like being a tory is a bit different from being catholic, like "being a tory" necessarily entails supporting their political program, that's what the word means? There are no "lapsed tories" who just turn up because they like the weird sex habits and cocaine but don't do the actual poltiics bit.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

anecdotal of course but my gran used to do precisely that. the local conservatives would lay on coffee mornings and other little events and all the old people would always turn out in force. presumably it was just something social for them to do but they were all card carrying conservatives, even though she didn't even vote

kecske fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Apr 4, 2022

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

a 94 year old women was a Tory?! No way.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

kecske posted:

anecdotal of course but my gran used to do precisely that. the local conservatives would lay on coffee mornings and other little events and all the old people would always turn out in force. presumably it was just something social for them to do but they were all card carrying conservatives, even though she didn't even vote

Which makes them political tories who also like the coffee.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
oh come on its not like she gassed bunnies then cut them up for kicks


oh wait a minute

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I recall ronya writing a bit about how (white english) women of a certain age were often tories by default because theenglish.txt and the Conservatives weaponizing a kind of nice-and-proper village social affair infrastructure in a way that was more comparable to religion than mass movement politics.

Politics as a space where we don't talk about politics.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

DesperateDan posted:

oh come on its not like she gassed bunnies then cut them up for kicks


oh wait a minute

https://twitter.com/_jesshayden/status/1511006029265444866?s=21&t=RoARCAMFTLjzQJZ2zDyzkQ

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

I recall ronya writing a bit about how (white english) women of a certain age were often tories by default because theenglish.txt and the Conservatives weaponizing a kind of nice-and-proper village social affair infrastructure in a way that was more comparable to religion than mass movement politics.

Politics as a space where we don't talk about politics.

"My local council is strictly non-political - they're all Conservative." Michael Flanders, 1957

The same thing applied to young people, and why the Young Conservatives was the largest political youth organisation in the Western world in the 1960s. Most of the YCs activities were not expressly political, but it provided a 'respectable' way for the kids of suburban and rural middle class parents to socialise, travel and do community work. Of course it also subtly enforced Conservative norms and ideas as it did so, and primed many (but not all) of its members to be, if not Conservatives then conservatives, as adults.

The YCs were always significantly more moderate/progressive than the party at large, but a load of neoliberal 'dry' arseholes came into the organisation in the early 80s, mostly to try and overtturn the YCs' anti-apartheid and full-employment stances. This caused factional disputes to break out which, combined with the divisive Thatcher-era policies, drove most of the normal people who just wanted the occasional dinner dance and coach trip away and the membership plummeted, so by the 1990s the YCs had become one of the most swivel-eyed bits of the Tory structure and began birthing all those weirdo 15-year olds with Lego minifig hairstyles who wear pinstripe suits to school.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

BalloonFish posted:

"My local council is strictly non-political - they're all Conservative." Michael Flanders, 1957

The same thing applied to young people, and why the Young Conservatives was the largest political youth organisation in the Western world in the 1960s. Most of the YCs activities were not expressly political, but it provided a 'respectable' way for the kids of suburban and rural middle class parents to socialise, travel and do community work. Of course it also subtly enforced Conservative norms and ideas as it did so, and primed many (but not all) of its members to be, if not Conservatives then conservatives, as adults.

The YCs were always significantly more moderate/progressive than the party at large, but a load of neoliberal 'dry' arseholes came into the organisation in the early 80s, mostly to try and overtturn the YCs' anti-apartheid and full-employment stances. This caused factional disputes to break out which, combined with the divisive Thatcher-era policies, drove most of the normal people who just wanted the occasional dinner dance and coach trip away and the membership plummeted, so by the 1990s the YCs had become one of the most swivel-eyed bits of the Tory structure and began birthing all those weirdo 15-year olds with Lego minifig hairstyles who wear pinstripe suits to school.

About 15 years ago my sister was a member of the YC (she claimed she was 'just helping out the treasurer') but it culminated in her wearing a loving Thatcher pin on her lapel with the oval office's face on it in loving Edinburgh where she lived. It takes a special kind of blinkered to do all of those things at the same time.

Weirdly I think it's probably why I have never quite trusted her ever since.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


A while ago there was someone in this thread who got upset because we called him a Tory just for frequenting his local Conservative Club. He said it was the only place to socialise in his area, but still, you're literally funding the Tory Party.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Comrade Fakename posted:

A while ago there was someone in this thread who got upset because we called him a Tory just for frequenting his local Conservative Club. He said it was the only place to socialise in his area, but still, you're literally funding the Tory Party.

I mean if you're a consumer of just about any goods or service in this lovely place you're doing that, probably to a greater tune than whatever the margin on the beer is at the Conservative club.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

I recall ronya writing a bit about how (white english) women of a certain age were often tories by default because theenglish.txt and the Conservatives weaponizing a kind of nice-and-proper village social affair infrastructure in a way that was more comparable to religion than mass movement politics.

Politics as a space where we don't talk about politics.

If we're going back that far then also white Scottish and Welsh, to be fair.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Comrade Fakename posted:

A while ago there was someone in this thread who got upset because we called him a Tory just for frequenting his local Conservative Club. He said it was the only place to socialise in his area, but still, you're literally funding the Tory Party.

My partner and her mum are both members of the local Con Club - my partner having good lefty opinions and her mum being of the "Always Labour, Never Tory Because I'm From Tyneside And Look What They Did To The Place...But I Made An Exception In 2019 To Get Brexit Done And To Stop Jerumbly Crowbin Nationalising The Genders" sort. It is literally one of the best casual social venues in this blighted, austerity-ruined city and the food is really good at low prices (probably heavily subsidised due to collective funding and choices made through a democratically elected committee...). I've been in there a few times but found it too weird trying to have a Sunday lunch in The Margaret Thatcher Suite with blue wallpaper and framed newspaper covers of Tory election victories.

Since then they've actually been on a 'modernisation' drive, because they realised that the average age of the membership was something like 67 and there was a permanent In Memoriam notice in the foyer listing the members who'd shuffled off to the great free market in the sky that week. So they've taken down the blue wallpaper and the photos of Churchill and Reagan and renamed the main dining room 'The Grantham Suite' (nudge, nudge) and now the website 'About Us' section has a big paragraph explaining that it's not officially or financially connected to the Conservative Party in any way. And their facebook page occasionally does really awkward 'How Do You Do Fellow Kids?' posts trying to tempt the youth into the place with promises of cheap drink, pool tables, free parking and a Tuesday night disco.

It's a rather interesting microcosm of how modern British conservatism has poisoned itself by making life so poo poo for anyone under the age of 45 that they don't have any time, money or inclination to have a pie and a pint in a small garden in a city centre, and certainly not in the company of a load of small business owners and parish councillors who have Views About Wokery.

Jeherrin
Jun 7, 2012

feedmegin posted:

If we're going back that far then also white Scottish and Welsh, to be fair.

Not very far back.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I would rather sit outside in the rain and fight seagulls for my chips than go to a conservative club, at least the gulls are honest.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




I can't imagine walking myself walking into that social club as a minority, maybe I'm picturing it wrong though.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

BalloonFish posted:

My partner and her mum are both members of the local Con Club - I've been in there a few times

Oh it's all coming out now. Do we need a poll? How many thread regulars are Tory club members (for completely splicable reasons).

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



They still have Tory clubs? That seems... bizarre to me even if you factor in all the old men who want to cling on to the days where every other nice pub had a private membership.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
There's a LibDem club in St Albans though I'm not sure if it's still operating. Imagine.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I should own up. I'm actually a part time barman in the second Life Tory club.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
What's wrong with you people .

The closest I've come to anything like that is walking into the yacht club that my in-laws are a member of in new York, where a man in boat shoes immediately jokingly questioned whether they "let Irish in here now". F-gently caress you...?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
How can you when when its comedy night and when its serious talking about Tory stuff?

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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Comrade Fakename posted:

A while ago there was someone in this thread who got upset because we called him a Tory just for frequenting his local Conservative Club. He said it was the only place to socialise in his area, but still, you're literally funding the Tory Party.
The last town I lived in, everyone used the Con club for social events. There was a labour club, but the 'function room' was about the size of a shed and the downstairs was a tiny, shabby pub full of lifers. Condemned a few years ago, probably in the aftermath of the character assassination of Jeremy Corbyn by the coward The Entire British Press.

Most people I know have booked the con club for birthdays and wedding receptions - my gran in law, (an actual lifelong labour supporter) booked it for her 70th, my mother in law requested it for her wake, and I nearly used it for our wedding reception because the alternatives around town were substantially shitter.

Honestly I don't think most people care / worry about it. Not saying they shouldn't, but I don't think it makes anyone a lovely person as much as it speaks to how insidiously the conservatives have maintained a monopoly on being seen as the 'default' party by so many people.

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