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windshipper posted:I am the idiot. I hit up the international legion asking for more information about providing medical help. I have the training, the knowledge, etc, from 10 years in EMS. I know that’s not battlefield, and my patient population isn’t 20 year olds with GSWs on average (but I have treated that). So we’ll see. Right now, I just want more information, and maybe I’ll go with an NGO instead. I’m divorced, no kids. Pretty much right in the golden circle of no responsibilities other than my day job. Yeah I'd look up NGOs first and see if you can do something with them rather than go forward and put yourself at high risk of dying in a trench.
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Don't get any dumb ideas Caro.
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Voyager I posted:A while ago I mentioned that a suit of medieval armor I'd ordered from a Ukrainian smithy had been completed and shipped out during the siege. I sent them an email expressing my gratitude, but it essentially condensed to holy poo poo. This was the email they sent me in response. This dude is welding spikes on his salvaged Russian tank in preparation of going full road warrior as we speak and I will not entertain any "facts" to the contrary.
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How about rather than getting yourself killed in Ukraine you go volunteer at a local free clinic
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Signing up for the International Legion requires you to serve until Martial Law is lifted. Additionally, despite your EMS training they've put out some statements not that long ago that they're only the looking for ex-mil trained individuals. It seems likely that you'd end up in Lviv not doing a whole lot. If you did end up getting deployed to a forward position, be advised that the Russians already announced quite some time ago that they would not consider captured war tourists as enemy combatants. Don't throw your life away. Donate the money you'd use to go there to the handful of legit charities actually helping people over there.
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My sister is the principal of an international school in Kyiv, currently in Riga before flying back to the states at the end of the month. All of her teachers have been released from their contracts so they can seek employment elsewhere but she’ll be under contract for at least next year in the hope they can get the school going again. I am not sure what her residency plan for next year is, I know it’s not easy to work a Ukrainian clock in Mountain Standard. So I expect she’ll be back in Europe somewhere and would be surprised it’s not their house in Kyiv if possible. I do GIS work for an electric utility (and could probably learn gas or water in a hurry). My current role is an analyst, but I supported new construction for large projects and transmission groups prior to Covid (unrelated change with very convenient timing). I’m trying to figure out the logistics of going to Kyiv for awhile to work the reconstruction. Not sure if or how it could work but if anyone has a good idea where to start lmk. Edit: not a war tourism thing at all, I can wait until Russia has completely retreated. highme fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Apr 5, 2022 |
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windshipper posted:I am the idiot. I hit up the international legion asking for more information about providing medical help. I have the training, the knowledge, etc, from 10 years in EMS. I know that’s not battlefield, and my patient population isn’t 20 year olds with GSWs on average (but I have treated that). So we’ll see. Right now, I just want more information, and maybe I’ll go with an NGO instead. I’m divorced, no kids. Pretty much right in the golden circle of no responsibilities other than my day job. Your impact is probably going to be greater with boring thing like finding a way to help more at home, donating money, decarbonizing your lifestyle, and even just talking about the war with the people around you. There's a lot of folks either not paying attention or hearing Russian propaganda who could benefit from the viewpoint of someone they trust. If you must go, it's probably best to explore the NGO route thoroughly first. See if you can get a call with folks in the same role over there to better understand what you're committing to and whether you're up to it. It's also worth a healthy look in the mirror to reflect on your motivations. There are significantly worse reasons than "I want to help and there's not much holding me back," just make sure you're as fully cognizant of it as possible.
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GD_American posted:Had one of those “farted in church” laughs (you know, not supposed to laugh, harder you try worse it gets) picturing him cutely bouncing thru the field, an explosion, then a single frame later an obvious stuffed animal replacement flying off in the air going ARF ARF ARF like it’s a Zucker Abrams Zucker movie. Goddamn you. I pulled my back something fierce an hour ago. Still hurts like a motherfucker. And then you get me to laugh. A good laugh that I really needed after *gestures vaguely at yesterday*, but fuuuck that hurt.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I wonder if you'd be better looking at doctors without borders or similar MSF is hard without one of their in demand specialties. They also want dedicated people, not tourists. You also don't really get to choose where you go so a good chance it's Africa.
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McNally posted:Your smugness is unwarranted. All that "dunking" was people saying "there's no way Russia could pull off an organized withdrawal," which you never bothered responding to and then, oh look, Russia emphatically did not pull off an organized withdrawal. Er. If you look at my original post, I wasn't claiming they could do an organized withdrawal, I claimed that they could get the men out. It's right there in the end, I expected them to have to leave most of the heavy equipment behind. I just didn't think it was realistic to expect a lot of Russians as prisoners (or trapped in the pocket), which they weren't. Because they could get out in the unorganized manner, by just walking north. Also, love the av. Much better than the original. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tuna-Fish posted:Er. If you look at my original post, I wasn't claiming they could do an organized withdrawal, I claimed that they could get the men out. It's right there in the end, I expected them to have to leave most of the heavy equipment behind. I just didn't think it was realistic to expect a lot of Russians as prisoners (or trapped in the pocket), which they weren't. Because they could get out in the unorganized manner, by just walking north. I guess I'm failing to understand why you're making a big deal out of this.
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Rude Dude With Tude posted:new cope cage just dropped Is not cope cage Shoigu pay top dollar for wood
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Tuna-Fish posted:Er. If you look at my original post, I wasn't claiming they could do an organized withdrawal, I claimed that they could get the men out. It's right there in the end, I expected them to have to leave most of the heavy equipment behind. I just didn't think it was realistic to expect a lot of Russians as prisoners (or trapped in the pocket), which they weren't. Because they could get out in the unorganized manner, by just walking north. 
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windshipper posted:I am the idiot. I hit up the international legion asking for more information about providing medical help. I have the training, the knowledge, etc, from 10 years in EMS. I know that’s not battlefield, and my patient population isn’t 20 year olds with GSWs on average (but I have treated that). So we’ll see. Right now, I just want more information, and maybe I’ll go with an NGO instead. I’m divorced, no kids. Pretty much right in the golden circle of no responsibilities other than my day job. I get it dude. I’m a former infantry LT, the last few days of news from Ukraine have my blood loving boiling, and I’m my former position would probably make me a candidate that they’d like to have. Except, my time is past. I’m mid-30’s, bad back, and came away with a case of sad-brains from the first time around (working for a combat hospital in Afghanistan, not even an actual firefight; just lots of wounded and a good friend that committed suicide after coming home). Also, I don’t own a weapon or armor…but either of those could probably be acquired fast, for the right price. It’d be a lot of effort to do that, and to get myself/my gear to Ukraine. It’d be a ton of effort, and the odds of getting bullseye’d by a Russian missile (because an idiot whose language you don’t speak) forgot to turn off his phone are too high. Or you’re surrounded by people yelling in 5 different languages, and you don’t understand someone yelling in Romanian, Portuguese, or German “CONTACT 9 O CLOCK, ENEMY TROOPS AND TRANSPORT BEHIND COVER, 150M” until you’ve got a BMP expressing itself in your general direction with its autocannon, and it’s too late. On a language note, doing medical interviews in other languages is hard. I’ve done them in Spanish (Honduras and Panama), and it didn’t get much less awkward over time. You’d likely have to have a terp, which is going to be someone who has to babysit you instead of doing whatever else it was they were originally doing. Go with an NGO, preferably a good one that would pull you out when if circumstances dictate (and has a plan to do so). Also, it’s probably good to have an escape plan that doesn’t involve whatever org you’re there with (as your backup, for if you end up in a place where things really go to hell). I’ve donated some money already, and will do more once I get paid again. This is probably the extent of what I can meaningfully contribute. It’s not much, but it’s the best I can do from here/for myself.
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Tuna-Fish posted:Er. If you look at my original post, I wasn't claiming they could do an organized withdrawal, I claimed that they could get the men out. It's right there in the end, I expected them to have to leave most of the heavy equipment behind. I just didn't think it was realistic to expect a lot of Russians as prisoners (or trapped in the pocket), which they weren't. Because they could get out in the unorganized manner, by just walking north. "afternoon hike through a bog" still makes me lol
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Nz's opposition party is calling for us to send Javelins to Ukraine. Do we even have them to send? I have no idea of the capabilities of our military beyond "lol" In the US, our opposition party is attacking Biden for not sending S300 systems, MiGs, and Javelins.
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Stultus Maximus posted:In the US, our opposition party is attacking Biden for not sending S300 systems, MiGs, and Javelins. Which is funny because the US is sending the first and 3rd things, and is probably trying to get them the second thing on the sly.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Nz's opposition party is calling for us to send Javelins to Ukraine. Do we even have them to send? I have no idea of the capabilities of our military beyond "lol" When this came up originally a few weeks ago, I'm pretty sure I heard we have like, 20-something, lol. E) Also iirc the response at the time was that they'd offered to send them but the number was so small Ukr turned them down
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lightpole posted:https://hbr.org/2017/05/linear-thinking-in-a-nonlinear-world Sorry I saw this quote and had to point it out. Harvard Business Review posted:Of course, willfully exploiting consumers’ flawed perceptions of attribute-benefit relationships is a questionable marketing strategy. It’s widely regarded as unethical for companies to take advantage of customers’ ignorance. Picture an  growing in a nonlinear fashion.
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Carth Dookie posted:Which is funny because the US is sending the first and 3rd things, and is probably trying to get them the second thing on the sly. In theory how hard would it be to slap a MiG on a flatbread and ship it across the border to the nearest straight stretch of road?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:In theory how hard would it be to slap a MiG on a flatbread and ship it across the border to the nearest straight stretch of road? We talking focaccia or pita?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:In theory how hard would it be to slap a MiG on a flatbread and ship it across the border to the nearest straight stretch of road? Oh, so you want to ship them via Subway?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:In theory how hard would it be to slap a MiG on a flatbread and ship it across the border to the nearest straight stretch of road? You'd need one hell of an oven to bake that! 
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Having walked through quite a few bogs in my time, I cannot imagine walking any more than a couple hundred yards through a bog. Even if you're properly geared for it, it's exhausting, muddy, wet, bug filled experience that may or may not claim bits of your clothing. Trying to retreat miles through a bog carrying anything more than a little bit of food and some water would be downright miserable, and absolutely exhausting experience that would take days even if you're completely sure of the route. And it would be absolutely deadly if you're trying to retreat in 2/3rds of a soldiers uniform (the other third sold off to line your SNCO's pocket) through a frozen bog in the middle of winter. Tbh, if my group of soldiers is surrounded on three sides by angry Ukrainians and on one side by a icy, recently reflooded bog, I might honestly pick surrendering because my surest chances of survival would be better.
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Tiny Timbs posted:We talking focaccia or pita? Eucharist for St Javelin.
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Tiny Timbs posted:We talking focaccia or pita? I was thinking lavash or naan. Oh and for the record I noticed the typo before I hit submit but thought it was too funny to correct.
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Tiny Timbs posted:We talking focaccia or pita? well, it'd be an enormous pita, which i suppose answers the original question
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https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1511292509619568640 I've said this before, but this is something I'd call someone an idiot for if I saw them doing it in ArmA, let alone in a real-life war against an enemy with active air defenses.
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efb slightly Looking like the Ukrainians we're able to Battlefield themselves a chopper: https://twitter.com/myrrlyn/status/1511326580508872710?t=E7M_-lsoC4zP-P3lnOZpzA&s=19
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Spoggerific posted:https://twitter.com/uaweapons/status/1511292509619568640 I did it in Bad Company 2 all the time
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