Ukraine: The Aristoblyats

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Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I do...

Out of cheaper NLAWs and there�s a column of BMDs made out of aluminum? Best believe that�s a javelin

# ? Apr 7, 2022 00:28

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:16

Marshal Prolapse: Jun 23, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

This is the meme we all needed. It�s perfect, adaptable, and puts a smile on one�s face.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 00:43

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

The weirdest drat thing, I can read the verb tense but no matter how I try to speak it it just adds a weird syllable to the end that doesn't sound right.

Javelin
Javelin'n
Javellan
Javahallan

# ? Apr 7, 2022 00:53

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

https://twitter.com/shustry/status/1511827302837100549

# ? Apr 7, 2022 00:54

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

https://twitter.com/shustry/status/1511827302837100549

# ? Apr 7, 2022 00:57

Herstory Begins Now: Aug 5, 2003; SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I do...

lmao it's beautiful

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:00

Quackles: Aug 11, 2018; Pixels of Light.

M_Gargantua posted:

The weirdest drat thing, I can read the verb tense but no matter how I try to speak it it just adds a weird syllable to the end that doesn't sound right.

Javel'n

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:03

Bored As Fuck: Jan 1, 2006; Fun Shoe

So what are going to be the effects of this war? I mean besides the horror, besides the casualties, besides the refugees this will cause, what are the second and third order effects this is going to cause?

Both Ukraine and Russia account for a third of the world's wheat exports. Countries in the Middle East, North Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa are particularly vulnerable to famine. Yemen is ALREADY going through a famine.

Increasing food prices often lead to civil unrest.

quote:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-russia-bread-food-prices-civil-unrest-arab-spring-egypt-2022-3

Food scarcity is likely to surge in countries throughout the world due to Russia's war with Ukraine.

In the past, that's led to riots — most recently the Arab Spring and food crises in 2007 and 2008.

When Vladimir Putin invaded Europe's breadbasket, he may have set off shockwaves that could cause civil unrest worldwide.

Together, Ukraine and Russia produce nearly a third of the world's wheat, 19% of the world's corn, and 80% of its sunflower oil supply. The crisis in these countries means the world's food supply chain will take a major hit, putting more people at risk of starvation throughout the globe.

"I would almost say that no country is going to be immune from this kind of trifecta of political risk: pandemic hangover, rising prices, and pressure on living standards," Tina Fordham, a global political analyst, told Insider.

Soaring food prices, especially bread, have been a trigger for protests, civil unrest, and revolutions in France, Russia, and the Middle East in the past. With wheat prices up 70% in the last month, experts worry that countries with an unstable food supply that rely on Ukraine and Russia are at particular risk. Egypt, Cameroon, Nigeria, and Yemen, in particular, get more than half of their imported calories from the region — they're looking at a possible surge of severe malnutrition and starvation.

Hunger has driven rebellions in very recent history

Two events in recent history renewed scholastic interest in the relationship between food prices and political instability, Slate's Joshua Keating wrote in 2014. A food crisis in 2007 and 2008 due to weather shocks and trade restrictions to the food market triggered riots in countries like Haiti, Bangladesh, and Mozambique.

Food scarcity also played a large role in the Arab Spring, a series of anti-government protests in the Middle East in the early 2010s after international food prices shot up, unemployment rose, and frustration with corrupt political systems peaked.

One of the driving forces behind the Arab Spring, experts say, was the high cost of food. Shrinking farmlands, bad weather, and poor water distribution contributed to higher prices and, as a result, anti-government sentiment.

"This is a problem for every sitting incumbent leader: Boris Johnson, Jair Bolsonaro, Joe Biden, this is the worst combination of factors for elected officials," she said. "Countries having elections in the coming months are at special risk of tensions."

What other knock on effects is this going to cause?

What else am I missing?

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:05

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

A fuckton of displaced people, countries ramping up their arm expenditures and impending climate doom.

We�re about to enter the spicy decade.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:06

Tomn: Aug 23, 2007; And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands

M_Gargantua posted:

The weirdest drat thing, I can read the verb tense but no matter how I try to speak it it just adds a weird syllable to the end that doesn't sound right.

Javelin
Javelin'n
Javellan
Javahallan

Javelenin.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:08

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Overpopulation and reduced food supplies tend to lead to massive die-offs. I can't say for sure whether we've got all the pieces in place for that, but...

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:09

in a well actually: Jan 26, 2011; dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

India just finished building up wheat export terminals and a bumper crop that can cover Ukr/Rus export shortfalls.

But speculators are going to drive up the price anyway like 08.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:12

Humbug Scoolbus: Apr 25, 2008; The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.; Clapping Larry

Herstory Begins Now posted:

lmao it's beautiful

Here's the one with text

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:26

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Ukraine Thread: Implyin' Ukraine Haddit Comin'? That's a Sixer...

Also, if you wanted it in native Ukrainian:

Висовування головою зі своєї ями?

Ви отримуєте Javelin'.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Apr 7, 2022

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:31

Kaal: May 22, 2002; through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Bored As gently caress posted:

So what are going to be the effects of this war? I mean besides the horror, besides the casualties, besides the refugees this will cause, what are the second and third order effects this is going to cause?

What else am I missing?

With the EU under stress trying to accommodate a wide variety of political beliefs, Britain�s Brexit is quickly becoming seen in a very different light. Certainly I think any chance of Scottish Independence or Irish reunification just got kicked down the road 20 years.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:32

Wrong Theory: Aug 27, 2005; Satellite from days of old, lead me to your access code

Kaal posted:

With the EU under stress trying to accommodate a wide variety of political beliefs, Britain�s Brexit is quickly becoming seen in a very different light. Certainly I think any chance of Scottish Independence or Irish reunification just got kicked down the road 20 years.

It's almost like we are stronger together than apart. :thunk:

Ugh, I feel so dirty for saying that, is this socialism?!

FrozenVent posted:

A fuckton of displaced people, countries ramping up their arm expenditures and impending climate doom.

We�re about to enter the spicy decade.

Good old climate change still chugging along. "Now's the time to do something!" the science says. It certainly is. Weren't not gonna do anything but I recognize that we could.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:42

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Kaal posted:

With the EU under stress trying to accommodate a wide variety of political beliefs, Britain�s Brexit is quickly becoming seen in a very different light. Certainly I think any chance of Scottish Independence or Irish reunification just got kicked down the road 20 years.

Certainly makes the attempts to encourage Brexit look a lot nastier, huh?

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:50

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

https://twitter.com/shustry/status/1511827302837100549

Literally a song they might have played, if I know my goth/fetish clubs:

Out with the old war
In with the new
Dressed to the nines
Atomic chic looks so good on you
The zeitgeist trend for a new generation
For a new radiation
And everyone laughs
And everyone laughs

This is the new world
This is your time
Down in the basement
Dancing again
Everybody get ready to sing
When the lights go out
When the lights go out
Come join the party at club vertigo
Move to the searchlight songs
Everybody get ready to clap your hands
When the lights go out
When the lights go out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z2h4vif7wk

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:51

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:54

EasilyConfused: Nov 21, 2009; one strong toad

M_Gargantua posted:

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:56

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

M_Gargantua posted:

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:57

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

M_Gargantua posted:

god bless

# ? Apr 7, 2022 01:57

Humbug Scoolbus: Apr 25, 2008; The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.; Clapping Larry

Kesper North posted:

Literally a song they might have played, if I know my goth/fetish clubs:

Out with the old war
In with the new
Dressed to the nines
Atomic chic looks so good on you
The zeitgeist trend for a new generation
For a new radiation
And everyone laughs
And everyone laughs

This is the new world
This is your time
Down in the basement
Dancing again
Everybody get ready to sing
When the lights go out
When the lights go out
Come join the party at club vertigo
Move to the searchlight songs
Everybody get ready to clap your hands
When the lights go out
When the lights go out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z2h4vif7wk

Thank you for introing me to VNV. That is some good stuff.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:00

Marshal Prolapse: Jun 23, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

M_Gargantua posted:

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:00

Lovely Joe Stalin: Jun 12, 2007; Our Lovely Wang

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Certainly makes the attempts to encourage Brexit look a lot nastier, huh?

It's been a taboo truth since the moment 48% of the country stopped existing the morning after the vote. Brexit was a Russian operation. It's taken this long for someone in Parliament to actually stand up and ask if we should perhaps maybe, eventually, look into the possibility of finding out whether Farage and Banks are traitors.

The inconvenient bit is that Johnson is only where he is because of Brexit. And as Foreign Secretary he had his clearances pulled because he would do totally innocent things like ditch his close protection detail to meet russian spies when he was meant to be doing NATO stuff. That and his party are hooked on Russian funding.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:01

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Yep. Divide and conquer is one of the oldest and most effective strategies there is.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:03

Nuclear Tourist: Apr 7, 2005

I saw this picture in my twitter feed and remembered that I for some reason own a giant 3x2ft Lada/Vaz calendar for 1991.

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Thank you for introing me to VNV. That is some good stuff.

Hell yeah VNV Nation :thumbsup:

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:04

Marshal Prolapse: Jun 23, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Okay so I know this is insane, but Russia isn�t insane enough to launch a missile or airstrike attack against a nuclear facility, are they?

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:08

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Thank you for introing me to VNV. That is some good stuff.

I didn't recognize the lyrics, but it seemed familiar.

Then you said this and it clicked, and I clicked the link to find out they had a 2018 album that I didn't know about. Bringing back some strong early 2000's nostalgia.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:09

Midjack: Dec 24, 2007

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Okay so I know this is insane, but Russia isn�t insane enough to launch a missile or airstrike attack against a nuclear facility, are they?

A problem with doing it in Ukraine is the wind will blow a lot of hot dust right back onto Russia.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:10

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Okay so I know this is insane, but Russia isn�t insane enough to launch a missile or airstrike attack against a nuclear facility, are they?

Who knows; they sure launched a ground attack though

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/11/1085427380/ukraine-nuclear-power-plant-zaporizhzhia

that was a wild live stream to watch, as the reactors were operating at power at the time, so they were at their full latent decay heat in the event of emergency shutdown.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:11

Stravag: Jun 7, 2009

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Thank you for introing me to VNV. That is some good stuff.

Oh man vnv nation is amazing. Sentinel homeworld and epicentre were my into to them

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:15

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Okay so I know this is insane, but Russia isn�t insane enough to launch a missile or airstrike attack against a nuclear facility, are they?

The reactors in Ukraine are pressurized-water reactors and aren't the kind of graphite-moderated RBMK reactors that would spew spicy atomized graphite like a broken fire hydrant while on fire like Chernobyl's RBMK-1000s.

A VVER core blown open by an Iskander would really suck for anyone who had to *deal* with it, but we're not talking about "country-wide milk supplies needing to be dumped."

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:19

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Nuclear Tourist posted:

I saw this picture in my twitter feed and remembered that I for some reason own a giant 3x2ft Lada/Vaz calendar for 1991.

Hell yeah VNV Nation

lmao

post all 12 please

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:20

Kaal: May 22, 2002; through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Certainly makes the attempts to encourage Brexit look a lot nastier, huh?

Definitely, and there�s been allegations surfacing that Russian propagandists were involved in British influence peddling as far back as the 2014 Scottish Referendum. Tories are battling to shed their appearance of Russian affiliation, and the SNP is fending off attacks on both sides as the Scottish Greens share government with them and yet sharply criticize any cooperation with NATO or the UK, and have battled on a host of touch points like vaccine passports, nuclear power, Scottish oil and gas independence, etc.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/scotland/2022/03/the-snp-has-missed-its-chance-for-scottish-independence

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:23

Kesper North: Nov 3, 2011; EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Thank you for introing me to VNV. That is some good stuff.

They and a few other artists birthed a whole subgenre in the early 2000s, as other posters have noted. It's good stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurepop

I listen to this song a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF5mf4LV7Jw

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:28

lightpole: Jun 4, 2004; I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Bored As gently caress posted:

So what are going to be the effects of this war? I mean besides the horror, besides the casualties, besides the refugees this will cause, what are the second and third order effects this is going to cause?

Both Ukraine and Russia account for a third of the world's wheat exports. Countries in the Middle East, North Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa are particularly vulnerable to famine. Yemen is ALREADY going through a famine.

Increasing food prices often lead to civil unrest.

What other knock on effects is this going to cause?

What else am I missing?

Wheat, sunflower oil, and something else when it comes to foodstuffs. Lebanon and Egypt should be the bellwethers, I think Egypt has already capped subsidies? Russia is also a major potash exporter so expect fertilizer issues. I think metals were also a worry, I think Russia is a big exporter but I don't remember if its just copper or like nickel and poo poo. The major thing to watch for are export restrictions since they exacerbate shortages while doing little to help. Like you said, food instability brings about popular unrest.

At the risk of being laughed at cause the Economist is apparently untrustworthy?

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/03/12/war-in-ukraine-will-cripple-global-food-markets

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:31

Beefeater1980: Sep 12, 2008; My God, it's full of Horatios!

Economist has terrible political takes and an unshakeable faith in the virtues of free markets, but it is generally reliable on checking facts before reporting them and solid on exercises in classical economics like working out MBA-style the impact of a supply disruption.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:55

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Rebuilding Ukraine ain't gonna be cheap or quick and millions of people evacuating causes problems itself even after war concludes.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 02:58

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 06:16

silvergoose: Mar 18, 2006; IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS

god, I remember seeing VNV. Super high energy show despite the music being, y'know, kinda poetry over not tremendously fast music.

# ? Apr 7, 2022 03:18

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