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Adamancipator makes Baronne easily and also should be good in the upcoming synchro event. Probably one of the better combo decks in the format.
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Right, Baronne. Oddly of all the decks I've played against I think I've seen her once, but funny she slipped my mind when she's a big deal. Also, can someone help me understand the "when a monster would be Special Summoned" trigger (Solemn Strike, Generaider Nidhogg)? Half the time when I think it should work, it doesn't. Probably a case of missed timing or the way cards pay for cost and then pull things out - but I've lost a few games both on expecting it to work and it not, and also not trusting it to work and misplaying.
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Is it the case that you're sometimes failing to negate a cards effect to special summon a monster and instead are waiting to negate the summon after the monster hits the field? Ie if someone uses poly to fuse, you need to negate the poly and not the fusion monster that gets summoned.
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Yeah, you can't Solemn Judgment a Fusion Summoned monster, for example
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Yeah, it's cases like that - and that's what I was thinking. It's still confusing because the monster "would be summoned" but I'm sure there are semantics in there that mean "actually the summon is a result of the spell effect". In my brain it's still a special summon that would happen though, so it's confusing.
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Is there a good version of Dark Magician decks anywhere because I keep facing them as I climb up silver and they all seem...very bad
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Apr 7, 2022 03:29
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Is there a good version of Dark Magician decks anywhere because I keep facing them as I climb up silver and they all seem...very bad
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Apr 7, 2022 03:34
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It's just a lot of continuous s/ts that Do A Lot Of Things but they just all seem to die to just...Going in because they spent their whole gameplan making some lovely reoccurring beaters that enable some not-great destruction cards. Aside again: I know I've said it but holy poo poo Feather storm is the dumbest loving card.
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Zodack posted:Yeah, it's cases like that - and that's what I was thinking. It's still confusing because the monster "would be summoned" but I'm sure there are semantics in there that mean "actually the summon is a result of the spell effect". In my brain it's still a special summon that would happen though, so it's confusing. The thing to keep in mind is that you can't activate effects while a chain is resolving. A summon off of, say, Polymerization happens while Poly is resolving, so the only window you have to respond is when Poly itself is activated.
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Can't believe they made a card called Linkross, with that card art, and it isn't a generic up down left right link 4.
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Apr 7, 2022 11:41
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:It's just a lot of continuous s/ts that Do A Lot Of Things but they just all seem to die to just...Going in Blue Eyes at least builds around a garnet that's still a 3k beatstick.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Is there a good version of Dark Magician decks anywhere because I keep facing them as I climb up silver and they all seem...very bad https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/guides/dark-magician-guide-deruka Scroll down if you just want to get to the decks, as it's a pretty comprehensive guide.
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girl dick energy posted:Duel_Monsters_Era_Legacy_Decks.txt Blue-Eyes is a dragon which means it’s impossible for it to be truly bad. Dragon decks bottom out at ‘pretty decent’ at worst.
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Apr 7, 2022 13:53
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'Make a bunch of 3k guys' is also just fundamentally a better plan that messing around with fragile continuous spells and a 2.5k monster, there are some number of games you'll win with brute force (especially with Skill Drain at 3).
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Also there's just amazing blue eyes retains and support. CHAOS MAX and jet and poo poo like that. All of dms additions are just...spam dm more and maybe banish 1 thing for it. And blue eyes spam also let's go go into rank 8 poo poo which is fun
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Apr 7, 2022 14:48
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I'd say the main thing Dark Magician has over Blue-Eyes is that Eternal Soul is better than True Light, and they kinda have better ways to protect it. It's still fairly easy to just beat their heads in if you get a monster stronger than 2800 Attack on the field, but if you don't then Dark Magician can be harder to out because of that.
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Eternal soul + dark magician the dragon Knight has given me issues in the past but think that's a mix of my deck being relatively slow and me being bad allows them to set up far more than they should
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lijmo posted:Eternal soul + dark magician the dragon Knight has given me issues in the past but think that's a mix of my deck being relatively slow and me being bad allows them to set up far more than they should I find I have more trouble with Dark Magician than Blue-Eyes while playing Kozmo for this reason. If I can slam a Dark Destroyer on the field before they set up then they can't do a massive amount, but Kozmo isn't exactly blazing-fast, so if I don't draw some combo pieces that get me a quick Dark Destroyer, they'll be set up before I can, and if they're set up they can often choke me out of it.
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Cleretic posted:I'd say the main thing Dark Magician has over Blue-Eyes is that Eternal Soul is better than True Light, and they kinda have better ways to protect it. Yeah but blue eyes doesn't really need true light to make plays and eternal soul seems very crucial to DMs playbook
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Eternal Soul and True Light are both poo poo and I’m going to keep waving this flag. I still think it’s hilarious that Blue-Eyes support consists of an entire freaking cult while the Dark Magician’s key support is uh…a shirt and a stick. Good job guys, wank off Kaiba some more why don’t you. 
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Apr 7, 2022 16:19
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The deck seems very sad with Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon banned.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The deck seems very sad with Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon banned. Only in the OCG. It can probably come back as long as DPE is around, DPE way outclasses it.
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In theory the value of DM is being able to do things that aren’t making the biggest whitest dragon possible and smashing face. The problem is all those things are awkward at best and big dumb punch is one of the strongest play styles in Yugioh for just getting over the line against a shocking number of decks.
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Vandar posted:Eternal Soul and True Light are both poo poo and I’m going to keep waving this flag. I don't think eternal soul is good I think it's probably the best non-extra deck bit of support they've got ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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Vandar posted:Good job guys, wank off Kaiba some more why don’t you. 
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Kaiba refusing to stop running three vanilla beatsticks and that refusal carrying over into the modern archetype still makes sense, but what doesn't make sense is Dark Magician still not getting a (main deck) replacement for the original 2500 ATK nobody. Hell, in-lore, Dark Magician himself is a retrain, and he already has more new forms and outfits than Barbie. Just make an effect monster that always treats its name as Dark Magician already. 
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They probably think it'd undermine the nostalgia value if you could cut the original monster. Plus Yugi was all about running terrible vanilla monsters
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I run Monarchs and I just can't beat Dark Magician for some ludicrous reason. Blue Eyes is really easy for me otoh
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DM is tougher than Blue Eyes for me too. Most of those beatstick dragon doesn't have much destruction protection, so it's easy to wipe them off. Dark Magician Girl seems to get more replacement upgrade than the main DM himself.
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Nyaa posted:Dark Magician Girl seems to get more replacement upgrade than the main DM himself. Which is fine, because she's awesome and deserves it. 
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Vandar posted:Only in the OCG. It can probably come back as long as DPE is around, DPE way outclasses it. It really isn't a good idea to unban hosed up cards, even if there are other hosed up cards in the format.
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Dark Magician spawned a while archetype based on his support card that infinitely more fun and less poo poo than dm. Magicians Girl so much better than DM.
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King of Solomon posted:It really isn't a good idea to unban hosed up cards, even if there are other hosed up cards in the format. Just ban verte and its fine. Also ban Halqi. Bring back usable tuners please.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Just ban verte and its fine. Ban Verte, Dragoon, and either DPE itself or Fusion Destiny. All of them. E: Agreed on Halq.
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Dragoon isn't that good and is much worse without a free easily searchable fusion for it with Verte. To run it you'd either have to add another 2 garnets to get reliable searchers or just pray to top deck it. Banning Verte and Halqi fix many such issuesm
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Halqi's Firewall Dragon except with even less reason it hasn't been errata'd yet.
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Vandar posted:Eternal Soul and True Light are both poo poo and I’m going to keep waving this flag. Well, it was, these days Blue-Eyes is just Fusion and Ritual stuff with the cult kinda shoved under the rug.
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Justin_Brett posted:Well, it was, these days Blue-Eyes is just Fusion and Ritual stuff with the cult kinda shoved under the rug. Were the Eyes of Blue cards even actively used back when they were new, aside from Sage and maybe Maiden?
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TaurusOxford posted:Were the Eyes of Blue cards even actively used back when they were new, aside from Sage and maybe Maiden? Edit: That deck also mainboarded 2 Twin Twisters and 2 PWWB, which was an interesting meta call that apparently paid off. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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The 2016 worlds are relevant to exactly nothing from the time because of how much they were stacking things in Blue-Eyes' favour.
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