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Barry Shitpeas posted:Anyway, maybe I don't "get" Commander but what exactly is the appeal of this card? It doesn't do anything for you, it's just "let's you and him fight" over and over until you only have 1 opponent left and whoops now it's actively bad it's a cat person op
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The Nastier Nate posted:now give me an army of the damned reprint i think it was in a midnight hunt precon also devilish valet is completely broken right? you need, what, 4 creatures w/haste, (or some kinda create token on attack) to deal lethal? Strong Sauce fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 8, 2022 |
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"Strong Sauce" posted:I want to travel to the plane with catgirl psychiatrists
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Owlbear Camus posted:I want to travel to the plane with catgirl psychiatrists No version of Gideon Jura can defeat this catgirl psychiatrist.
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Apr 8, 2022 21:08
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Strong Sauce posted:i think it was in a midnight hunt precon I was thinking of playing it with Mirror March
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Apr 8, 2022 21:09
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Oh hell yes If the Gruul treasure sub-theme is really strong I feel like Goldspan Dragon may eat a Standard ban. (Obv this card doesn't necessarily threaten that because it'll still need two treasures from a dragon)
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Apr 8, 2022 21:16
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Apr 8, 2022 21:27
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Turn 1 shambling ghast, turn 2 deadly dispute into this.
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:Turn 1 shambling ghast, turn 2 deadly dispute into this. Mono-Black Jund
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Goa Tse-tung posted:Mono-Black Jund lol
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Anyway, maybe I don't "get" Commander but what exactly is the appeal of this card? It doesn't do anything for you, it's just "let's you and him fight" over and over until you only have 1 opponent left and whoops now it's actively bad Card's a piec of poo poo, even in commander.
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Apr 8, 2022 22:25
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it's commander-only, to be clear (NCC instead of SNC as the set code)
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Oh I love this designHallucinogenic Toreador posted:Turn 1 shambling ghast, turn 2 deadly dispute into this. Goa Tse-tung posted:Mono-Black Jund
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Apr 8, 2022 22:37
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The Bant one sucks, but there's some nice Naya cards for Rin and Seri, so I'm happy. The cat therapist (catherapist) might be a surprise wincon, too.
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Apr 8, 2022 23:47
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If you copy an Ob Nix non legendary token with cat car how much loyalty does it enter with?
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Bugsy posted:If you copy an Ob Nix non legendary token with cat car how much loyalty does it enter with? It would ETB with its printed loyalty.
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 Omniseer Arbiter 4UU Creature - Avatar Flying Whenever ~ enters the battlefield or attacks, draw two cards, then discard a card. Whenever you discard a card, target creature an opponent controls gets -X/-0 until your next turn, where X is the number of different mana values among cards in your graveyard. 5/4 why would wotc make people count the different mana values in their graveyard...
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Apr 8, 2022 23:55
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Cause it’s designed for arena first
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I simply choose not to play commander I only play it with my friends, they agree with me that actively trying to end the game before turn 400 is good
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Apr 9, 2022 00:22
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This cards wierd but in a way i like!
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Tbh two mana 5/4 seems modern playable? It dodges a lot of removal! It just requires two ragavan hits...okay thats the limiting factor, nevermind
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Bugsy posted:If you copy an Ob Nix non legendary token with cat car how much loyalty does it enter with? Zero. The casaulty copy has a starting loyalty of X, which is always 0 except when on the stack. quote:706.3 The copy’s copiable values become the copied information, as modified by the copy’s status (see rule 110.5). Objects that copy the object will use the new copiable values. HootTheOwl fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Apr 9, 2022 |
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I need this to be instant 
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Strong Sauce posted:why would wotc make people count the different mana values in their graveyard... because they needed to fill out the card file and they ran out of ideas for a good gimmick for the obligatory cycle of mythic creatures, which this is presumably a part of And also uggy posted:Cause it’s designed for arena first
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Apr 9, 2022 00:43
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HootTheOwl posted:I need this to be instant Being an instant wouldnt have saved that card. Theres no universe where that card is good without significant changes
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HootTheOwl posted:Zero. Its starting loyalty will actually be whatever the value of X was, as confirmed by the Wizards rules staffers on Twitter. It's similar to how X/X tokens whose power/toughness are set when they're created work - if you have a 5/5 token from Kura and cost a clone on it, you'll get a 5/5 creature. You can also see this with Jace from ZNR; if you copy one of the tokens he makes with Chariot, its starting loyalty will be 1, as set by the kicker ability creating the token.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Being an instant wouldnt have saved that card. Theres no universe where that card is good without significant changes It will be an alchemy all star in a few months.
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Holy poo poo alchemy is such a bad format, it doesn't even feel like magic. They had to give massive rewards with no entry to even get me to look at it but its soooo bad, I hate it.
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Sickening posted:It will be an alchemy all star in a few months. Why? Every aspect of it seems mediocre
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one mana and sac a creature token to deal four damage to a creature isn't the worst def think we're going to see some cards with upsides for saccing creatures and/or magecraft-esque upsides for doublecasting spells once more of the set comes out
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Well, okay, casualty one is fairly broad, but the rest seems so bleh
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mandatory lesbian posted:Why? Every aspect of it seems mediocre the joke is that they'll make a better version by updating it like they've done with some other mechanics in alchemy, but even then those buffs haven't really turned any cards into 'all-stars' just not 'you're going to be as sad anymore if you try to make that deck work'
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flatluigi posted:one mana and sac a creature token to deal four damage to a creature isn't the worst Isn't it six damage? At the very least gaining six life from one mana has potential
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HootTheOwl posted:Zero. I saw some judges posting about that interaction in the Twitter thread and they said they'll have to wait for the release notes
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A big flaming stink posted:Isn't it six damage? At the very least gaining six life from one mana has potential it's six damage if you've done noncombat damage to the creature with some other spell already. on its own it'd do 1 with the copy, then it'd do 3 when the original resolves
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flatluigi posted:it's six damage if you've done noncombat damage to the creature with some other spell already. on its own it'd do 1 with the copy, then it'd do 3 when the original resolves Wait I totally missed the non-combat damage part. I thought it was any damage. Yeah that makes the card way loving worse
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mandatory lesbian posted:Being an instant wouldnt have saved that card. Theres no universe where that card is good without significant changes That card as instant is incredibly playable. Like it would kill Rag, DRC, and Sentienel, plus in its kicker mode (in any sac deck) it can even tag an omnath, pitch elementals. It also hits planeswalkers, most of the relevant ones don't start above 4.
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