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16-bit Butt-Head posted:vince wants to make anything but wrestling lmao I point back to the very first effort post I made. In some ways, Vince has gotten exactly what he deserves.
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Apr 10, 2022 04:19
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Supreme Allah posted:you cant talk vince wanting wrestlers in horror movies without mentioning the one where kane is a jason knockoff with an 18 inch penis i dont know See No Evil It was trash However my cousin and I always wish each other HAPPY MAY NINETEENTH because they hammered that release date into our heads for months
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Apr 10, 2022 04:22
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Cornwind Evil posted:I point back to the very first effort post I made. I hope the last thing Vince hears as his conscious fades is "here lies a carny. I'm glad of it."
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Apr 10, 2022 04:37
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SirPhoebos posted:I hope the last thing Vince hears as his conscious fades is "professional wrestling"
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Apr 10, 2022 04:38
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:there arent really writers at WWE just people who pitch ideas that are usually ignored by vince in favor of his own ideas. its not often you can blame a sole person for all the problems with the product but WWE and Vince is one of those rare times where you can lol It's funny. I don't work for WWE but I could write a bunch of storyline pitches and while on paper, someone who has worked for WWE could claim to have more actual experience, I would interview better because I would factually be able to say that 100% of my work output wasn't rejected by my boss.
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Apr 10, 2022 04:57
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Apr 10, 2022 05:42
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And you know full well that the reports after his death, his obituaries, and all the talking heads that deem to discuss it will all call him a wrestling promoter. Some will call him a wrasslin' promoter. No one will say otherwise. It's all they will say and all the world will know. What's that quote? He who takes a road to avoid their destiny often finds it right there waiting or something?
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Apr 10, 2022 07:52
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The real poetic part is that pro wrestling is the perfect vehicle for Vince to feed his raging ego and need for attention, but every time he does so he cements his indelible association with it. It is a hell of his own creation.
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Apr 10, 2022 08:00
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TheSwizzler posted:Another minor McMahon-speak nonsense thing: forcing Canadian wrestlers to use American cities as hometowns he's from winnipeg you idiot
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Apr 10, 2022 10:16
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Cornwind Evil posted:I point back to the very first effort post I made. Billions of dollars?
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Apr 10, 2022 13:26
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BiggerBoat posted:Billions of dollars? The quote "What does it benefit a man to gain the whole world, but lose his own soul?" comes to mind, in the sense of a general theme. Yeah, Vince has made tons of money, come back from the brink arguably more than once (if you consider how the WWE is more profitable now then ever due to how licensing details work these days), but all of it is as a wrasslin' promoter. I honestly think if you had to have him choose between 'minor success, barely noticeable, in another entertainment field' and his own life, he'd make like some of the versions of Rumpelstiltskin and rip himself in two. If my theory that he basically planned to get into the business to core it out and destroy it so he could use the money made from such actions to jump and establish himself in 'proper' entertainment venues, avenging himself on his father, only for wrestling to instead throw its chains and mantle over him and never stop chanting "WE ACCEPT YOU, ONE OF US.", it's even worse. And he deserves it. Be careful what you pretend to be. Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Apr 10, 2022 17:52
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vince mcmahon is an event planner (and he's a really good event planner)
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Apr 10, 2022 17:59
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SirPhoebos posted:I hope the last thing Vince hears as his conscious fades is "here lies a carny. I'm glad of it." "Farewell, son of the great Leo Lupton."
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Apr 10, 2022 18:20
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No chance... no chance in hell...
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Apr 10, 2022 23:30
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Vince instead of Trump as President. Discuss.
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Apr 10, 2022 23:40
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Hell in a cell on the floor of the Senate. Elections are decided by wrestling matches between candidates. Referees are supreme court justices.
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spaceblancmange posted:Vince instead of Trump as President. Discuss. same thing but shane and stephenie are the failson and under-qualified but has a position because of nepotism 16-bit Butt-Head fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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Watching Drone Strikes going "WHET A MEHNEUUUUUVREEE"
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spaceblancmange posted:Vince instead of Trump as President. Discuss. Probably similar economic views, still cozy with Saudi Arabia, have no idea how Vince feels about Putin, would probably have handled the pandemic better.
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Apr 10, 2022 23:46
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i would say that vince would cut a promo on kim jong-un but trump actually did that so lol
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Apr 10, 2022 23:47
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HHH is elected as vice-president, but leaves partway through his term after failing to negotiate a deal with North Korea, is replaced by Bruce "Brother Love" Prichard. Johnny "Ace" Laurinatis is installed a WH Chief of Staff and begins scouring bikini model catalogs and websites to get just the kind of WH staff Vince will approve of.
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Apr 10, 2022 23:53
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spaceblancmange posted:Vince instead of Trump as President. Discuss. Literally nothing would have been different
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Apr 11, 2022 02:24
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Elephant Ambush posted:Literally nothing would have been different SoTU, sponsored by SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, IN THEATRES NOW
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Apr 11, 2022 02:27
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Covid relief package includes 1 pair Brett Hart 80s shades.
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FilthyImp posted:Less crimes, surprisingly! Same number of crimes just different types of crimes. I'm actually not joking all that much when I say nothing would be different. They're both extremely similar people and Vince would have used his power and authority to make himself the center of attention and enrich himself.
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Apr 11, 2022 02:30
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vince would tear his quad while delivering the state of the union
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Apr 11, 2022 02:35
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Elephant Ambush posted:Same number of crimes just different types of crimes. I'm actually not joking all that much when I say nothing would be different. They're both extremely similar people and Vince would have used his power and authority to make himself the center of attention and enrich himself. Also people would still refer to Vince as a wrestling promoter only. Not even a "Mr President" while in office.
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"Its me, America! It's been me all along!" (Bernie: "Son of a bitch." )
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Vince is an absolute monster and in many ways comparable to Trump, but I do think he's notably 'better' in at least two ways First he's got at least some intelligence and was at least for a time good at what he does. Trump is legitimately one of the most unintelligent people in the public sphere, like, ever, and infamously terrible at business. And second, and more laudably (even though Vince is still a monstrous rear end in a top hat and the world will be better off when he is no longer in it) Vince is actually willing to do some work himself and like, actually do something beyond 'exist and demand praise for existing.' Like the Trump-owned WWF would never have had Mr. Trump taking bumps or whatnot. Vince for all his faults is at least willing to put in some work. Trump is not. EDIT: I mean, hell, imagine Trump injuring himself in any way, shape, or form on the way in to the ring and how the rest of that scenario plays out vs what happened when Vince blew out both his quads. I hate having to defend Vince, but yeah. You can say positive things about him; I literally can't think of anything positive you can say about Trump. RoboChrist 9000 fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Apr 11, 2022 |
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Vince is open to having his mind changed by evidence, as we can see from why he hired Gail Kim
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vince did have some skill as a wrestler promoter and has an eye for talent imo. he just refuses to let someone make use of that talent in their own way and has it be done his way or not at all
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As we last left Cody Rhodes, he told WWE to shove it and went off to find himself. Once Cody left WWE, he went on a tear, competing anywhere that would have him. Not only was he stopping by so many indie promotions, but also nearly every major wrestling promotion around the world. He and Brandi had something to prove and drat it, he was doing it. In Cody’s words, he was “doing the work.” This was a lot better than his other catchphrase, “Daddy eats first!” Whatever the gently caress that was. From there, a lot has already been said. Cody joined the Bullet Club/The Elite and became buddies with Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks. He started to show up a lot on their vlog Being the Elite. A fan tweeted a question to Dave Meltzer wondering whether a non-WWE wrestling show could sell out a 10,000 person arena. Cody decided to test Meltzer’s theory that it couldn’t be done and they did a big show called All In that featured wrestlers from various promotions. All In is an interesting show to revisit. It’s less a prologue show to AEW as it is a proof of concept. Comparing the two, it’s like watching two different movies by the same director who likes to reuse the same actors in their work. Cody took on Nick Aldis, the NWA Champion. Nick Aldis is one of those guys that the wrestling industry keeps insisting is really, really good, but nobody ever seems to give a poo poo about him because he really isn't interesting in any way. Luckily, he’s one of the people on this show that Tony Khan saw and went, “Pass!” Same with Joey Ryan, who appeared after “Hangman” Adam Page’s match along with an army of “penis druids.” Khan’s instincts not to sign him later on were correct, considering the guy whose claim to fame was dick-based offense was in fact a total creep. All In was a hit and even WWE was impressed. They wanted to bring in the Elite and things came close. What stands out to me is that Cody came the closest to signing with WWE. He wanted respect and I guess he felt that this was him getting respect. In the end, they went with Tony Khan and started AEW. Now, AEW did not start out fully formed. The promotion was announced on January 1 and the series AEW Dynamite didn’t start airing until September of that year. In the meantime, they did two major PPVS (Double or Nothing and All Out) and two free lesser PPVs (Fyter Fest and Fight for the Fallen). So how did they build up these shows with no TV? Two ways, really. First, Being the Elite was able to set things up in its own low-budget and absurd way. Second, AEW did a series of official YouTube videos called “Road to ____.” It’s something they still do every week to hype up their TV shows, but back then it was the biggest worldbuilding we had. It also meant that we got a LOT of Cody Rhodes, as he was the Elite member who was most treated as a serious boss character, in addition to being a wrestler. Cody truly felt like the figurehead of AEW through these videos, more than the other Elite members, and certainly more than Tony Khan, who was adamant about not being portrayed as an on-air personality. Being shown as the protagonist of sorts, Cody would not only talk up putting together matches, but putting together his own special match against his brother Dustin Rhodes/Goldust at the Double or Nothing PPV. They were also building towards Cody vs. Jericho by having Jericho annoyingly take all the credit for AEW’s early success and asking everyone to thank him for it, including an irritated, but polite Cody. Between Road To and BTE, Cody’s main supporting cast was Brandi Rhodes, MJF, and QT Marshall. QT was a schlubby-looking wrestling trainer and MJF was Cody’s rear end in a top hat protégé. The two had a dynamic where MJF would treat everyone like total garbage, but would put a pin in it when Cody was around and would regularly act like his best friend. Everyone could tell that it was only a matter of time before MJF would betray Cody, but there was still this feeling that deep down MJF still genuinely liked Cody. For some fans, the comparison went to Sting and Lex Luger in WCW, where the two were portrayed as best friends despite Sting being face and Luger being heel. Luger would be an rear end in a top hat to fans unless Sting was looking in his general direction. Cody was very open to the knowledge that MJF was a bad guy, but he felt it was okay because MJF was “his” bad guy. Speaking of Cody’s friends, as Double or Nothing was building towards the first ever Casino Battle Royale (AEW’s awkward Royal Rumble counterpart), it was announced that Shawn Spears was going to be signing with AEW and would be taking part in the match. Spears had wrestled in WWE as Tye Dillinger, a midcarder who got over with the crowd by being obsessed with the number ten. WWE never did much with him due to believing that he was merely “chant over” due to the fans regularly chanting “TEN!” for him. Cody watched this reveal video for Spears and casually talked up how great this was. He mainly claimed that AEW would be better off because Spears is “a good hand.” In other words, he was a good guy to throw in the middle of the card and have people work off of. To his character, this was a complimentary remark, but keep in mind how Cody really felt about Triple H’s insistence that he forever belonged in the midcard. At Double or Nothing, Cody finally got to have that big match against his brother that he always wanted. Cody vs. Dustin was a kickass, bloody battle that Cody eventually won. Afterwards, he grabbed the microphone and cut a heartfelt promo about how he didn’t need a teammate or a friend, but his older brother. From crying, his voice cracked while saying “brother” as he and Dustin went to hug. It was easily one of the best moments of the night on a show with amazing matches. With all this Cody stuff going on, what of Brandi? When she was in WWE, she was a ring announcer and she swore never to do that again. Though she was working behind the scenes at AEW, she also wanted to wrestle. And fair enough, they were going to need to build a women’s roster. One of the matches signed for Double or Nothing was Britt Baker vs. Nyla Rose vs. Kylie Rae. Brandi appeared pre-match to announce a fourth competitor. While fans groaned, fearing she was going to insert herself into things, it was all a swerve as the legendary Awesome Kong appeared as the fourth wrestler. This was a cool as hell surprise, but would lead to one of AEW’s worst concepts in its early days. But that will wait for the next entry. At Fyter Fest, as Omega and the Bucks were busy with their own match and making as many Fyre Fest budget jokes as they could, Cody was put in a match against youngster Darby Allin. The match ended up going to the time limit, thereby treating Darby as a big deal early on. Afterwards, as Cody tried to have the match restarted, an angry Shawn Spears showed up and smashed him upside the head with a chair. He hit him WAY too hard, but it made enough of a statement that almost three years later, chairs are a major part of Spears’ in-ring personality. Spears was pissed about the whole “good hand” comment, like Cody was looking past him and didn’t see him as a possible main eventer. I mean, Cody was absolutely right in every aspect here, but it made for a good motive to turn Spears heel. We also got this fire Brandi promo out of it. They would wait a bit for that match, though. Instead, the main event of Fight for the Fallen was a tag match of the Young Bucks vs. Cody and Dustin. The build for this match? For months, the Young Bucks would constantly make fun of Cody’s dramatic speech on BTE. Nick would randomly show up covered in fake blood, crying, and saying “I need my baby BRAH-ther!” as the two hugged. The Young Bucks ended up winning, but the two teams made amends by eating some Dominos backstage together. Cody vs. Spears would be saved for All Out, the last PPV before Dynamite would start airing on TV. Spears was joined by Tully Blanchard, former member of the Four Horsemen and former enemy of Dusty Rhodes. Cody, on the other hand, brought in Tully’s old tag partner Arn Anderson to interfere and drop Spears with a spinebuster. Cody won the match, which people felt split about. On one hand, he was definitely above Spears and needed to be pushed high on the card, but on the other hand, it kind of deflated Spears’ push and completely killed his momentum. Considering Spears was two PPVs away from losing a comedy squash match against Dustin Rhodes, which involved Spears wearing underwear with Tully Blanchard’s head over the crotch, yeah, that loss did a number on his trajectory. Up next: AEW Dynamite begins and Brandi makes new friends.
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In all honesty, I think Vince would do a much better job. He and Trump are very similar, but so's a Lamborghini and a Ferrari at a glance. First of all, their demons are very different. Trump was raised by a monstrous father who killed any chance of the man ever having a soul, while at the same time utterly breaking old Donald and making it so he would never be able to succeed, while Vince was raised in a super dysfunctional abusive environment with his own possibly monstrous stepfather (and mother?). Vince's psychopath motivation is 'succeed and be better than everyone and then drat it they will respect me and I'll have control.", while Trump lives in an alternate reality where he doesn't have to even roll out of bed to think he's God's gift to the world. Secondly, Vince HAS succeeded in his life's efforts on his own merits. It might not match the stories the WWE tell, but he did completely change the business, then came back from seeming demise, and hell, even now, he and his people have found a way to make WWE more profitable then ever even as it just keeps decaying. Trump has never succeeded. Everything he's tried has failed. If it wasn't for his innate psychopathy syncing well with how corrupted the business world has become by his breed over the decades (which among other things allowed all his bankruptcy abuse), he'd have starved to death in the streets decades ago. Worse, Trump thinks everything he does is inherently perfect and amazing, he has no desire to change, learn, or anything like that. Third, Vince does sometimes have moments of kindness, where he does things for others, like pays their medical bills or back taxes. Maybe it's just to gain favors, or make himself look good, but he still does do things for others at times. Trump not only doesn't, he sneers at the very concept when it doesn't completely baffle him. It astonishes me that Trump, with his 'absolute loyalty to me but when you lose even the slightest bit of favor I'll throw you in the trash' poo poo, hasn't long been betrayed and backstabbed and destroyed by someone who knew that and used it against him. Lastly, if Vince somehow did become President, he'd want to seperate himself from wrestling as hard as he could, as far as he could. He'd try and get so far away from it it might even affect his policy decisions. Really. It would not surprise me in the least if he did more liberal things like forgive student loan debt or try and build on the ACA, all so that people will stop seeing him as a WRASSLIN' PROMOTER.
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Mick Foley told a story once somebody at WWE had pitched bringing him back for something, and Vince was like "oh, that'd be fantastic! ... too bad Mick hates me." and his dudes were like "??? he hates you? Mick Foley hates anybody? since when? why does he hate you?" and Vince was like "I don't know, he just hates me.  "and they were like "... well since it's such a good idea, maybe we can try reaching out to him anyway? we got Ultimate Warrior and Bret Hart to come back..." and Vince was like "  you can try... I really don't think he'll go for it, though, I'm telling you, the man hates my guts."so they called Foley, and... he had no idea what they were talking about. he didn't have a clue why Vince would think that he hated him Vince was elated to learn this and gave him a big hug when they saw each other again I think this is an important story for understanding Vince, because to me it shows that his erratic, arbitrary decision-making isn't limited to things that please him, his brain is equally capable of coming to a random conclusion that just makes him really sad
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pro wrestling loving owns https://twitter.com/SirLARIATO/status/1513315840460005376?s=20&t=28tzafI3rc_MCSuU_1K_Wg
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Cubone posted:Mick Foley told a story once Vince saw pictures of Mick Foley and He Hate Me sitting next to each other on his desk and his eyes grayed over and he started making spit bubbles.
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Cubone posted:I think this is an important story for understanding Vince, because to me it shows that his erratic, arbitrary decision-making isn't limited to things that please him, his brain is equally capable of coming to a random conclusion that just makes him really sad I might actually know the context for this. In his third autobiography, Mick talks about how he really didn't like Vince yelling in his ear during the short period he did color commentary with WWE in the late 00's, and that he disagreed with Vince with that and other things. At the end of one chapter, Mick commented that he thinks the stands he made and the arguments due to them cost him his friendship with Vince: maybe Vince still liked him, but that deeper bond he felt was there was gone. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Vince read that and somehow came to the conclusion (what with Mick spending some time in TNA) that it meant that Mick now hated him.
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yup, Vince McMahon is absolutely a 1980s business guy who's done a whole rapsheet of morally-questionable things, and whose entire sense of humour revolves around Asses Do The Funniest Things, but he does at least fundamentally understand that his job as an onscreen character is to be a clown and to constantly be tripping over his own hubris and taking a pratfall I remember showing a friend old Wrestlemanias (I don't remember why, he probably forgot my birthday or something), and the only person who he recognised was McMahon "wait, I know him.... he's the guy from the memes!"
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spaceblancmange posted:Vince instead of Trump as President. Discuss. Iron Sheikh tasked with securing peace in the Middle East, undoubtedly does better than Kushner.
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