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VitalSigns posted:Shocked that it's that low when Bill Clinton's name is right there on the Epstein flight logs The right seems to be deeply uninterested in Bill Clinton's connections to Epstein, maybe since it's too easy to equate to Trump or maybe since he's just been out of office for that long. They'd much rather try to tie in Hillary specifically or Biden or really anyone else.
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Killer robot posted:The right seems to be deeply uninterested in Bill Clinton's connections to Epstein, maybe since it's too easy to equate to Trump or maybe since he's just been out of office for that long. They'd much rather try to tie in Hillary specifically or Biden or really anyone else. A general rule of thumb is the more likely someone is to be a pedophile, the less the far right is interested in calling them a pedophile
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:A general rule of thumb is the more likely someone is to be a pedophile, the less the far right is interested in calling them a pedophile They don't want to poke anyone who has checks to cash, and a lot of these people run in the same circles.
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Vargatron posted:What is it about RWM that makes PhD level professionals take "in 2030, the government will own all private property" at face value? Can't tell you how frustrating it is to have to hear crazy right wing talking points while I'm fixing a professor's keyboard. Though I suppose they're technically correct in that America will be ruled by an oligarchy by that time, if not already. Because they are petit bourgeoisie, their class position and the ideological position inherent to it practically requires them to believe the most insane RWM talking points no matter how much technical and theoretical knowledge they have in their field of expertise.
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DukeDuke posted:Because they are petit bourgeoisie, their class position and the ideological position inherent to it practically requires them to believe the most insane RWM talking points no matter how much technical and theoretical knowledge they have in their field of expertise.
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Mellow Seas posted:College professors (and educated professionals generally) are one of the least likely populations in the US to believe in insane right-wing conspiracy theories, so there has to be more to it than that. I think in this case it's a person who is very religious and scared of the state of the world. It's just very offputting for an otherwise nice person to all of a sudden start spouting out conspiracy theories and vaccine misinformation unprompted. I just told them I don't want to discuss politics at work.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:A general rule of thumb is the more likely someone is to be a pedophile, the less the far right is interested in calling them a pedophile The right wings relationship with pedophilia is so bizarre, it seems to include everything but actually assaulting children. Talking to kids about being gay is pedophilia. Having two men kiss on TV is grooming. If someone is bad then they are also a pedophile on top of whatever they already were. But a 48 year old man "marrying" a 15 year old is normal and the baby that appears a year later is just out of nowhere. I know that a lot of the propaganda is to cover for actual powerful people who are pedophiles but it really does seem like a significant portion of the population does not believe pedophilia is real. If a female child is assaulted then it's her value that is damaged, not her. If a male child is assaulted by a female adult, do I even need to say it. And if a male child is assaulted by a male adult it's because all gay people are evil. If you fundamentally do not believe that women have sexual agency then you can't fully believe that pedophilia is real because it would be like saying that you assaulted a chair, you don't care about the emotional wellbeing of objects whose value as objects are the primary factor of their existence.
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CuddleCryptid posted:The right wings relationship with pedophilia is so bizarre, it seems to include everything but actually assaulting children. Talking to kids about being gay is pedophilia. Having two men kiss on TV is grooming. If someone is bad then they are also a pedophile on top of whatever they already were. But a 48 year old man "marrying" a 15 year old is normal and the baby that appears a year later is just out of nowhere. To a conservative, the way they did and/or do things is the right sensible way, and any deviation from that isn't just suboptimal, it's dangerous to them. So when society lurches forward their reflexive reaction is that this change must be about normalizing something harmful.
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Panfilo posted:That's the thing, though - they treat women and children like property so their outrage is comparable to someone taking a dump on their lawn. The pedo is damaging one of their things and that is unacceptable. There's also the deeper anxiety of someone else having more power over your loved ones than you do. Pedophiles are scary and hated because they can get away with it and the law will be on their side, at least in the reactionary's mind. At the same time, you can't *be* a pedophile under that model. You don't poo poo on someone's lawn because you have a disorder that causes you to be compelled to do that, it's because you personally want to slight the owner of that lawn. If someone assaults a child then it is a one time action, not something stemming from a mental disorder. So if they just pray and super promise they won't do it again, then it's just a one time "mistake". Versus those dastardly libs who are *conspiring* to damage your property, in the same way that a thief conspires to steal your car.
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something something law of projection. The Texas thread had a recent bird post where an former aid to Donnie/regressives said some really hosed up things. dont look it up unless you want to be bad for the rest of the day or week.
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PhazonLink posted:something something law of projection. Is it this dude who was part of a child porn ring? And warning, do NOT read the text in the red box unless you are prepared for some extremely horrible stuff https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1512396309042548739
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CuddleCryptid posted:At the same time, you can't *be* a pedophile under that model. You don't poo poo on someone's lawn because you have a disorder that causes you to be compelled to do that, it's because you personally want to slight the owner of that lawn. If someone assaults a child then it is a one time action, not something stemming from a mental disorder. So if they just pray and super promise they won't do it again, then it's just a one time "mistake". Versus those dastardly libs who are *conspiring* to damage your property, in the same way that a thief conspires to steal your car. I think this one of those "the only moral abortion is my abortion" type of deals with chuds. "Oops, a respected person of the community is actually a predator? Better shove it under the rug, they are actually a good person I'm sure and acknowledging their crimes will make us all look bad." The 19 Kids and Counting TV show guy (Josh Duggar) is a prime example of this in action, thankfully the law eventually caught up with him. He was even on the Focus on the Family council too  Adding on to this: They also live in a loving fantasy world, so they would probably rather memory hole any actual instances of pedophiles existing and then go on 4chan (lol) and rally against the fake QAnon ones. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Apr 8, 2022 |
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If there isn't hard evidence of it (like there was with Josh Duggar) then their usual response is also "The media/Dems/libs are lying," that's what they did with Roy Moore and what they're doing with Matt Gaetz for now. I know it's easy to say that they're fine with it as long as it's one of their guys (and to an extent that's true) but like with Roy Moore, none of them were saying "Well yeah he flirted with that 15 year old girl but nothing wrong with that," they were just saying "She's lying, he never met her, he never did anything with her, they're just trying to make him look bad." Oh, so at least as far as morning right wing radio is concerned, they were all over the Zoom meeting between top Disney executives and how it's proof that the gay mafia is trying to recruit kids. Lots of standard right wing fare, including someone pretending they couldn't understand what "biromantic asexual" means because those words are just completely incomprehensible, you know, it's basically a foreign language. Then they googled it and it turned into "But how can you be romantically attracted to someone without being sexually attracted to them" and a personal favorite, "How can a human be asexual, how would you asexually reproduce?" Another show commented on the woman who said her kid told her that Gen Z is 30-40% more queer than previous generations and that they need to get with the times, and the host was all "Wait so more than 50% of kids these days are gay? And that would make them the majority by the way, no longer a minority" as well as saying that it's further proof that letting kids know LGBT+ people exist indoctrinates them to becoming LGBT+ themselves.
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Tesseraction posted:Is it this dude who was part of a child porn ring? And warning, do NOT read the text in the red box unless you are prepared for some extremely horrible stuff You weren't kidding.
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CuddleCryptid posted:At the same time, you can't *be* a pedophile under that model. You don't poo poo on someone's lawn because you have a disorder that causes you to be compelled to do that, it's because you personally want to slight the owner of that lawn. If someone assaults a child then it is a one time action, not something stemming from a mental disorder. So if they just pray and super promise they won't do it again, then it's just a one time "mistake". Versus those dastardly libs who are *conspiring* to damage your property, in the same way that a thief conspires to steal your car. I think more generally the idea is that "criminals" are other people, probably with darker skin but maybe just liberal, who are inherently evil. While a "good person" may commit crimes every now and then, but that's not even important because their "goodness" is part of their identity while committing a crime is not. Same with pedophiles, etc etc. Actions are less important to them than identity. Clarste fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Apr 9, 2022 |
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Apparently Trump endorsed Dr. Oz in the Pennsylvania Senate primary race. This should be interesting because McCormick has had a very slight lead for a while now, and a lot of the candidates have been attacking Oz as a political tourist.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Apparently Trump endorsed Dr. Oz in the Pennsylvania Senate primary race. This should be interesting because McCormick has had a very slight lead for a while now, and a lot of the candidates have been attacking Oz as a political tourist. Oz really needs to get into politics, then he just needs to die of something he claims doesn't exist and we can have a second winner of the Herman Cain Award For Wasted Potential In Medicine.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Apparently Trump endorsed Dr. Oz in the Pennsylvania Senate primary race. This should be interesting because McCormick has had a very slight lead for a while now, and a lot of the candidates have been attacking Oz as a political tourist.
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man why do I never listen to warnings about what not to read
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CuddleCryptid posted:Oz really needs to get into politics, then he just needs to die of something he claims doesn't exist and we can have a second winner of the Herman Cain Award For Wasted Potential In Medicine. Was Oz ever good? I'm not being facetious; I legit don't know.
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Neito posted:Was Oz ever good? I'm not being facetious; I legit don't know. No
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He was a skilled heart surgeon, but then he fell into the "I'm really good at this thing so I must be genius about everything " trap (when he isnt), along with the "I get money and fame for saying/supporting poo poo" trap.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Oz really needs to get into politics, then he just needs to die of something he claims doesn't exist and we can have a second winner of the Herman Cain Award For Wasted Potential In Medicine. Are you mixing up Herman Cain and Ben Carson, or are you counting his contributions to heart disease through lovely pizza as medicine?
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Much like sleepy Ben Carson, he was good and probably one of the top people in his field at the time, but then the siren call of even more money and supa stardom in a different field gets them and they stop doing medicine as their primary or even secondary thing so their skills rust.
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Yeah, Oz was a name in cardiac surgery when he was on faculty at Columbia, before he became a full time TV quack grifter. That's why Bill Clinton chose him to do his bypass surgery back in those days. The fact that he's a sleazy shithead is separate from the fact that he was actually a good cardiac surgeon.
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After The War posted:Are you mixing up Herman Cain and Ben Carson, or are you counting his contributions to heart disease through lovely pizza as medicine? I am mixing up Cain and Carson. VVV Two assholes that should be too educated to be doing the stuff they are doing but can't stop themselves and in turn proves a specific point about advanced degrees. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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I have mixed up Ben Carson and Herman Cain multiple times in my life and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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If my local flea markets are anything to go by, Trump's base is rock solid and very much dug in. I went down there to get some cheap clothes, a few dishes, and a couple of tools and holy moly it was really depressing how many guns and flags and angry people and poo poo that I saw. Kind of soured my mood in what was otherwise a rather nice day. EVERYWHERE I turned was some Trumpy bullshit and it kind of poo poo on my god time.
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BiggerBoat posted:If my local flea markets are anything to go by, Trump's base is rock solid and very much dug in. I went down there to get some cheap clothes, a few dishes, and a couple of tools and holy moly it was really depressing how many guns and flags and angry people and poo poo that I saw. Kind of soured my mood in what was otherwise a rather nice day. thank you for respecting the sabbath
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greazeball posted:thank you for respecting the sabbath yes, thank you
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PhazonLink posted:Much like sleepy Ben Carson, he was good and probably one of the top people in his field at the time, but then the siren call of even more money and supa stardom in a different field gets them and they stop doing medicine as their primary or even secondary thing so their skills rust. See also Jordan Peterson, though I don't think he was particularly special as a psychologist before getting in on the right wing grift machine
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DarklyDreaming posted:See also Jordan Peterson, though I don't think he was particularly special as a psychologist before getting in on the right wing grift machine Not a superstar but I understand he was fairly well respected in the field of addiction psychology, which makes his benzo addiction and all the associated terrible decisions surrounding it that much more bewildering/laughable.
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DarklyDreaming posted:See also Jordan Peterson, though I don't think he was particularly special as a psychologist before getting in on the right wing grift machine He was a veritable nobody until he started generating headlines like "University of Toronto Professor Stirs Outrage By Intentionally Misgendering Students" and "University of Toronto Professor Famous For Misgendering Students Has Weird Twitter Meltdown About The Movie Frozen." Jorps was kind of a joke and always has been. At least Herman Cain, Ben Carson, and Mehmet Oz had renown and success in their proper fields before they let their brainworms take the wheel. Cain ran a pretty successful discount pizza chain. Carson and Oz were world-renowned surgeons. Peterson... told people who were 13, or still mentally 13 decades on to... clean their loving rooms. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Apr 11, 2022 |
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Hey, that's not fair to Peterson... first he spent 15 years coasting on a single undergrad-level Jung repackaging. His years as a bullshit artist prior to throwing transphobic tantrums must be acknowledged!
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nine-gear crow posted:He was a veritable nobody until he started generating headlines like "University of Toronto Professor Stirs Outrage By Intentionally Misgendering Students" and "University of Toronto Professor Famous For Misgendering Students Has Weird Twitter Meltdown About The Movie Frozen." The Alberta NDP is distinctly on the left of Alberta politics, probably roughly centrist in a broader Canadian perspective, and far, far to the left of mainstream American political discourse. Jorp is... not.
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Stolen from another thread but...well https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1513528049421148167 WTF is it with these guys and "everyone's a pedophile" lately? I guess it's as basic as "everyone hates child molesters, right?" therefore anything we hate must be that thing. Or some stupid logic like that.
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It's two parts: projection (all the R's under investigation or accused); and that They are always the opposite, we hate pedos (unless there designated R), so They must love them. Plus it's a huge distraction from their own horribly regressive policies.
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Yes this current wave of anti-gay poo poo started in earnest after Disney got off of their asses and finally dropped support for politicians in FL who supported the 'Don't Say Gay' bill In response, the right threw a poo poo-fit against Disney and are now accusing them of gay indoctrination
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