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Megabound posted:Oh boy, the announcement up the top of this weeks episode is incredibly exciting to me What is it? I tend to skip the 2003-era eps.
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They'll be attending and covering the Sandy Hook trial this month, most likely in a daily wrap up style.
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Megabound posted:They'll be attending and covering the Sandy Hook trial this month, most likely in a daily wrap up style. I thought you meant the announcement of YEAR OF THE MUSTARD but that's good too
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Go RV! posted:I thought you meant the announcement of YEAR OF THE MUSTARD but that's good too Not only that,but WITH PHOTOS
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They should do an all callers episode, much like Alex. It's interesting hearing these fuckin weirdos from 2003.
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Grand Fromage posted:They should do an all callers episode, much like Alex. It's interesting hearing these fuckin weirdos from 2003. For some reason, hearing contemporary discussions about news and politics from my early 20s is very jarring. A lot of weird associated memories pop up. But, yeah, those 2003 weirdos got spun back in the 90s and popularization of conspiracy by the X-Files. There was much more of a mythology of clandestine groups constantly moving against each or cooperating. Now, there is only the undifferentiated mass that is the Globalists.
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Listening to the End Game series and I can't stop laughing when Dan does the violin sound
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Marsupial Ape posted:For some reason, hearing contemporary discussions about news and politics from my early 20s is very jarring. A lot of weird associated memories pop up. I mean, xfiles was just a schlocky 90s show about Washington DC filmed in Vancouver. The lone gunmen were not portrayed as people you wanted to be. Info wars is and was a little different, more of the post 9/11 era even in 2002.
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Megabound posted:They'll be attending and covering the Sandy Hook trial this month, most likely in a daily wrap up style. This is great, esp since the recent depositions have been private... For some reason. Thought Jones would keep the cameras there for his HBO content. There are like three SH cases open right? Which one is this? Haven't had a chance to listen yet.
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If anyone's looking for a nadir of Jordan's contribution to the show take a listen to episode 125. I put that on since I'm loving the Camelot episodes and Joedan took it as his mission to be as interuptive and unfunny as possible, to the point that he actively sabotaged Dan's revelation that one of Camelot's guests contributed to the Heavens Gate suicides and ensuing righteous anger that the episode ended with Dan sighing and Jordan yelling about how bad Jesus was. What is wrong with this dude? That was embarrassing. Shageletic fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Apr 9, 2022 |
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Marsupial Ape posted:Be that as it may. I love Dan and I love this tic.
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I listened to way too much way too fast and noticed verbal tics that now annoy me. Poor decisions on my part.
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These Jordan takes are funny to me since I’ve only listened almost entirely to later episodes outside of Project Camelot. I often come away feeling like Jordan makes funny jokes, or sets up funny premises that Dan could run with, but instead he lets them fall dead, without even laughing. Jordan and Billy Wayne Davis actually talk about this on BWDs podcast. All that said, Dan and Jordan are clearly friends that respect each other, and they’ve both notably improved over the course of the podcast.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:These Jordan takes are funny to me since I’ve only listened almost entirely to later episodes outside of Project Camelot. I try not to judge them as people too much because they are putting on a show and are being their performative selves. Elevated versions of themselves.
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I lost it listening to episode 666 when Jones said that GI Joe was real life and that he wasn't in Cobra
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Marsupial Ape posted:I try not to judge them as people too much because they are putting on a show and are being their performative selves. Elevated versions of themselves. Jordan on the Billy Wayne Davis was a lot more chill and I think that's more of him not in performing mode. The informed guy/dumb guy dynamic in podcasts is pretty common and certainly has expectations. Like when The Dollop guests somewhere else and Dave reacts a lot more strongly to things, or reverse Dollops. He's playing the role. I don't think Jordan would be screaming so much if you were just hanging out at a bar.
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I, for one, like Jordan and find him funny. I'll take him over most of regular BtB guests.
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I don't have a problem with Jordan as a concept, just with the degree of Jordan. I think the show would be much worse without Jordan, so it just needs to dial the Jordan down by a bit.
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It's a double act and it'd be boring as hell if it was just Dan
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Yeah I'm pro-Jordan but I'm also specifically pro-Jordan after a couple hundred eps where he dialed it back from 11 to 7.
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yea Jordan and Dan are a great duo, he just needed a bit to dial into a good rhythm where he wasn't stepping on Dan a bunch
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Episode #26 is a good drunk Alex episode especially because Dan goes into shoot wrestling promo mode against Alex because it was Wrestlemania weekend and that's On top of Jones just getting blasted and saying horrible poo poo for 2 hours.
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Yea I’m sure Jordan isn’t a boiling cauldron of rage all the time. (Jk)
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Jordan’s stock falling with me just today by completely not knowing what a “shoot promo” is. Also Dan is wrong on the release year of A Bug’s Life, 1998 wasn’t within the last 20 years.
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0konner posted:1998 wasn’t within the last 20 years.
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0konner posted:Jordan’s stock falling with me just today by completely not knowing what a “shoot promo” is. Also Dan is wrong on the release year of A Bug’s Life, 1998 wasn’t within the last 20 years. the first is indeed unforgivable but no to us millennials the 90's will always be at most fifteen years ago, please don't make us face the reality of linear time or my bones will become dust
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After listening to this new one I'm going to double down onb my prediction that he'll do the church setup after all this litigation. He'll have an avenue for donations and can channel his remaining devotees to an obvious tax shelter that they'll be happy to support. He sounds like he's practicing. A lot of ministers of established religions have canonical documents and sermons to draw from/steal/co-opt, but Alex will be making a lot of it from scratch. He currently meanders and he'll have to double down on a through-line and a promise of salvation to make it work but that's the only path is see for him. I wonder if certain state laws will keep him from establishing something like that if you've been guilty of word crimes, but I doubt it.
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Is there any precedent for someone losing access to portions of their speech as a result of a civil trial? It seems really unlikely given my, admittedly layman's, understanding of 1st amendment rights.
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Dan and Jordan are on Behind the Bastards on a semi recent episode: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-how-the-rich-ate-93526364/
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This might be beyond the scope of the KF thread and more suited for the Online Creators one, but it sort of involves half of KF and I wouldn't be surprised if it came up on the show at some point, even if only briefly. So the second part of the Lions Led By Donkeys series that Jordan guested on dropped yesterday, and unfortunately it seems like there's a bit of drama to go along with it: the author of the book that Joe used as his only source isn't happy that podcasts have been using his work as a single or uncredited source, and called out the LLBD podcast during a Twitter thread about it: https://twitter.com/brendankoerner/status/1513504339834322951 Jordan ended up replying to him, even though he was only a guest and had no responsibility in gathering research material: https://twitter.com/gotobedjordan/status/1513512669244174338 And friend of the show Robert Evans chimed in with his thoughts on the matter: https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1513587433157263361 This isn't a new problem for podcasts; bigger ones like The Dollop and (I think) Last Podcast on the Left were criticized early on for not crediting sources, and have since adjusted, but I don't know if they communicate with authors in the cases of lesser known subjects where there might only be one or two sources. I don't even necessarily think that they're owed that in every case, but overall I take Robert's view on the subject
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I saw Koerner’s thread yesterday but didn’t realize it was this podcast he was talking about. Anyway, he’s had this happen to him like three times now. I don’t think the LLBD was quite so egregious, but in a previous incident he says another podcaster read straight from his book for the bulk of the podcast without ever mentioning his name or the title of his book. That’s why he’s pissed.
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I know I've heard the hosts of other podcasts say that there are some subjects they don't cover because there's basically only a single book on the topic and they're not comfortable summarizing a single source in a podcast when someone could just buy the book. It probably depends in part on whether the podcast is supposed to be informative ("I am listening to this podcast to learn about a topic") or entertaining ("I am listening to this podcast to listen to a man scream"). But I know when BtB covers a topic that's mostly sourced from a single book I'll usually end up borrowing the book from the library because I want to know more. I don't know how many other listeners end up doing the same, or if there's a significant number of listeners out there who would have read the book if they hadn't listened to a podcast about it. I feel like not many? Not that this in any way invalidates the concern that other people are profiting off his labor.
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It's been awhile since I've listened to Last Podcast on the Left, but they seemed to thread the needle that way. If it was primarily one source they'd cite the book heavily and basically do an elevator pitch for it at the beginning and the end of the episode, specifically pushing it as "hey, there's a bunch of cool side stories like X, Y and Z that we didn't cover in the podcast cause if you want to know every little detail buy the book." I think the LPotL episodes on Tupac and Biggie got them a thank you email from some writer who looked them up after wondering why the hell they were suddenly selling hundreds of copies of a niche book.
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I can sympathize with history podcasts wanting to do interesting unknown stories, it's pretty common for there to only be one source (at least in English) once you get outside the most popular subjects.
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Amanda Moore seems okay but I wish she had slightly better podcast chops. I can forgive the poor quality of her audio and I'm sure that's compounding my issues but I'm having a hard time following her responses because she speaks very quickly and a little scattered and with a fair amount of "filler words." I'm early in the interview though. Maybe I'll click into her wavelength or she'll settle in.
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Tree Dude posted:Amanda Moore seems okay but I wish she had slightly better podcast chops. I can forgive the poor quality of her audio and I'm sure that's compounding my issues but I'm having a hard time following her responses because she speaks very quickly and a little scattered and with a fair amount of "filler words." I found this too. I was also having trouble parsing her California (?? not sure, I'm Aussie) accent.
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