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Syrian Lannister posted:There were videos going around in 2014 2015 of the Russians doing the same thing. Yep, I distinctly remember seeing footage floating around maybe 4-5 years ago of separatists using cellphones taken from killed Ukrainian soldiers and calling their parents to gloat. Vaguely remember seeing similar footage from Syria as well with SAA soldiers calling parents of killed rebels. Still an incredibly ghoulish thing to do, obviously. I guess the moral of the story is, if you're going to be carrying around a cellphone in an active warzone, you should probably disable biometric logins.
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Separatists took credits cards from the wreckage of MH17 and used them.
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Crab Dad posted:Whatever. It’s lame but it doesn’t add up to poo poo. Pestering the family of an invading genocidal army doesn’t amount to poo poo. I was just wondering as a technical question.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:
I'm sure the War Police are going to get right on top of it as soon as they are done getting quotas for tank speeding tickets (they just can't seem to reach it)
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm sure the War Police are going to get right on top of it as soon as they are done getting quotas for tank speeding tickets (they just can't seem to reach it) I know, I was just wondering from a technical perspective if this could be considered one. They’re also busy catching wanna be stooge Presidents.
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I don't know what the Ukrainian Military's stance on mocking deceased invader's families is. I doubt they're going to come down on this guy later.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-troops-took-radioactive-souvenirs-from-chernobyl-ukraine-nuclear-company-says 133 radioactive sources were reported stolen by Energoatom from CNPP during the Russians stay there. Buncha dudes went home with fun cool metal souvenirs in their rucks and cargo pockets, wonder where the theft of this much material falls on the INES scale. quote:In addition to looting computers and equipment, the Russian troops “unauthorizedly entered a repository of ionizing radiation sources” and “stole and damaged 133 sources with a total activity of about 7 million becquerels,” the nuclear company said, noting that “this is comparable to 700 kg of radioactive waste with the presence of beta and gamma radiation.” Citing the State Agency of Ukraine on Exclusion Zone Management, the company said it was believed the Russian soldiers took the “deadly” items “as souvenirs.” But if they were hoping to bring these souvenirs back home to impress their friends, they’re in for a surprise, as “carrying such a souvenir with you for two weeks will inevitably lead to radiation burns, radiation sickness and irreversible processes in the body,” according to Energoatom. I don't think the message quote:This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it! works in Russian, cause apparently even with actual nuclear scientists and plant personnel on site who were actively advising them of how dangerous the area was, the Russians couldn't help but pocket radioactive material cause it was warm to the touch or looked cool. orange juche fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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Haha, holy poo poo, looked up the INES scale for people and environment incidents involving sources and transport, and their example for a 5 on the INES scale (Accident with wider consequences) was 4 people picking up a lethal dose from a single ruptured Cs-137 source. This would rank those sources disappearing well above a 5, due to the amount of material and potential dissemination of the sources across a wider area, so possibly a 6 or even a 7 out of 7.
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zoux posted:Let's say Putin had a sudden cerebrovascular event that killed him (this is not unprecedented among Russian rulers): who the hell takes over? Or does the country immediately fall apart? Article 92 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation posted:3. In all cases when the President of the Russian Federation is incapable of fulfilling his duties, they shall temporarily fulfilled by the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation. The Acting President of the Russian Federation shall have no right to dissolve the State Duma, appoint a referendum, and also provisions of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. so Mishustin, though i'd expect a power struggle pretty quickly
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orange juche posted:Haha, holy poo poo, looked up the INES scale for people and environment incidents involving sources and transport, and their example for a 5 on the INES scale (Accident with wider consequences) was 4 people picking up a lethal dose from a single ruptured Cs-137 source. This would rank those sources disappearing well above a 5, due to the amount of material and potential dissemination of the sources across a wider area, so possibly a 6 or even a 7 out of 7. INES 5 also includes the Windscale fire, for what it’s worth. Chernobyl 1986 was a 7. It’s not a great scale.
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FrozenVent posted:INES 5 also includes the Windscale fire, for what it’s worth. Those are two different scales of incidents. INES has two scales, one for sites, and one for missing/stolen/discovered sources. Sites scale is bigger than sources, but sources has the potential for worldwide travel well away from known nuclear sites, which is dangerous all on its own. Why they gave them the same numbers is confusing, but my understanding is that the missing Chernobyl sources would be above a 5 on the sources scale, due to how many sources disappeared, and the dissemination of each source away from the site being a radiological incident on its own.
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orange juche posted:133 radioactive sources were reported stolen by Energoatom from CNPP during the Russians stay there. How spicy are these sources? Are we talking Herbie Goes Bananas spicy? The idea of 133 different Goiânias isn't a pleasant one.
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Sexual Lorax posted:How spicy are these sources? Are we talking Herbie Goes Bananas spicy? The idea of 133 different Goiânias isn't a pleasant one. Goiânia was a 55TBq source, so these sources are much less energetic, taking days to accumulate a fatal dose instead of hours, but the thing about radiation is you won't know you're glowing until you're experiencing ARS, if you don't know what radiation is. You're still just as dead, and honestly, the fact that there's so many sources would make this a much bigger mess to clean up for the IAEA. orange juche fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Who knows, I'm shocked that Putin really has near total control of the Russian state. You don't get away with making choices like this that damage the rich and your own population if you don't. Authoritarian countries like Russia and China aren't like America, where the rich own the government. In Russia and China, the government owns the rich.
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Chornobyl came back for a round 2, and is still looking at a respectable 5/7. Was the original incident just that far off-scale high that it all but broke the INES rating scheme? Fukushima was also a 7, but Chornobyl seems like a far worse incident.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Chornobyl came back for a round 2, and is still looking at a respectable 5/7. Yes, it was well and truly off the scale.
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I can't imagine what sources would only emit a total of 7 MBq, that's not a whole lot of radiation, and definitely not equivalent to 700kg of radioactive waste, Maybe 7TBq, which is a huge loving deal, but maybe it was lost in translation by the time it made it to the news article.
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This thread is practically the Russian army's idiots thread
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Finland has all but confirmed it's going to join NATO: https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f087ec40b13f722 https://mobile.twitter.com/shashj/s...f087ec40b13f722
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psydude posted:Finland has all but confirmed it's going to join NATO: Finland armed with nukes. Perkele.
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The Molotov cocktails must come from the Karelia region of Finland, otherwise it is just perkele-ing resistance
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Discussion Quorum posted:The Molotov cocktails must come from the Karelia region of Finland, otherwise it is just perkele-ing resistance Molotov Cocktails are actually a controlled origin product in the European Union. If they come from anywhere else, they have to be called petrol bombs.
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orange juche posted:I can't imagine what sources would only emit a total of 7 MBq, that's not a whole lot of radiation, and definitely not equivalent to 700kg of radioactive waste, Maybe 7TBq, which is a huge loving deal, but maybe it was lost in translation by the time it made it to the news article. My understanding was that they were calibration sources for instruments, these would be fairly weak.
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psydude posted:Molotov Cocktails are actually a controlled origin product in the European Union. If they come from anywhere else, they have to be called petrol bombs. I thought 'petrol bombs' was trademarked in Northern Ireland ?
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Interesting bit I wasn't aware of: parts of Ukraine have a substantial Korean-Ukrainian minority, relocated there by Stalin during his purges. They are, uh, extremely not fond of Russia.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I thought 'petrol bombs' was trademarked in Northern Ireland ? You called?  I remember the neighbours making them in early 1990s when things got a bit "complicated" during one marching season (April to August)... never used thankfully.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I thought 'petrol bombs' was trademarked in Northern Ireland ? No longer part of the EU, and therefore not benefitting from any of the trademark protections. Can't wait to start sampling English Champagne.
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https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1514313992717676550 Sure is dusty up in here. Not as dusty as a building carelessly bombed by Russian aircraft, but still pretty dusty.
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Cythereal posted:Interesting bit I wasn't aware of: parts of Ukraine have a substantial Korean-Ukrainian minority, relocated there by Stalin during his purges. They are, uh, extremely not fond of Russia. Yeah, the governor of Mikolyaiv Vitaliy Kim with the great socks is Korean-Ukrainkan https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1501355088643870724?t=k7_cBJcfoJVTfqKj2u-Bsg&s=19 (Old post just wanted the pic)
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Ukrainian sources claim the missile cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, has been hit by two Neptune anti-ship missiles.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I thought 'petrol bombs' was trademarked in Northern Ireland ? No, that’s nail bomb. Hell the Philly mob used one to try and obscure a hit I’m the 1980s.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:Ukrainian sources claim the missile cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, has been hit by two Neptune anti-ship missiles. loving ouch
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:Ukrainian sources claim the missile cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, has been hit by two Neptune anti-ship missiles. How can they tell? Seems to be in its natural state; on fire.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:Ukrainian sources claim the missile cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, has been hit by two Neptune anti-ship missiles. Apparently those are a home-grown Ukrainian design that only entered last year. If true, it would be one hell of a combat debut.
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psydude posted:Apparently those are a home-grown Ukrainian design that only entered last year. Not even then. It was scheduled for May this year. I was wondering if they could even finish making them or getting them operational.
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