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Who will win the federal Election This poll is closed. |
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48 | 42.48% |
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3 | 2.65% |
| Liberal Minority |
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12 | 10.62% |
| UAP Majoirty |
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21 | 18.58% |
| Total: | 113 votes | ||
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Labor have been in the news for the last 4 days basically non stop because Albo didnt know the cash rate or the unemployment rate. They get coverage when they make mistakes and thats it.
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The fact that state Labor goverments manage to cut through and have gained government basically everywhere but NSW (which is a basketcase politically) means that there is a pathway to victory, but I'd be curious to know how much the media backing of the Liberals in WA for example impacted local's trust for said institutions. That said, I think the tactic often employed against a clear favourite is to be unreasonably critical while not obviously and blatantly fellating the other side. This doesn't seem to happen as much federally, although I suppose it's harder against a small target opposition leader than a premier willing to go against the grain. I would still be curious to know how a campaign like this one affects the population's perception of the media as more or less trustworthy though. At some point you have to imagine it would come back at them. If any of you resourceful buggers has a study or article on hand, I'd be keen to see it. Edit: And I guess another element would be that a lot of the more toxic media personalities willing to tie their ship to the federal libs live in NSW, so they have far more to lose from the Feds losing govt than a premier in another state.
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Apr 13, 2022 06:17
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Voter who interrupted Anthony Albanese's press conference demands apology after ‘deeply offensive’ comments What did Albo say to this snowflake? dr_rat posted:His full answer to that question is here: Good answer!
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Apr 13, 2022 06:33
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think the biggest factor with NSW is that NSW Labor are a mess who've spent the last decade recovering from the backlash to how corrupt they were last time they were in power & have still been repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot, while the NSW Liberals are dominated by the moderates & have done relatively little to really alienate people. Labor could have a serious shot in 2023 at last, Perrottet does not seem to be anywhere as popular as Berejiklian, but it's hard to say
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Apr 13, 2022 06:37
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like ozbargain forums and whirlpool are both lit up with how bad albo is for not being able to recall these two numbers. i know they are not the best example of the australian population but it was literally the first topic of discussion on the ozbargain main page underneath all the deals.
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Apr 13, 2022 06:42
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prime minister adam bandt
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Apr 13, 2022 06:47
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i wonder what political discourse looks like on hotcopper 
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Apr 13, 2022 06:51
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Whingepool probably is a pretty good sample set of the kind of overconfident middle aged man that hasn't already figured out that one party represents their interests more than the other, and that this isn't likely to change within their lifetime, aka swing voters. Same kind of person who listens to talkback radio and thinks they're getting an objective presentation of current events.
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Apr 13, 2022 07:11
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Seemlar posted:https://twitter.com/Paul_Karp/status/1514084738444582916 like a dog with a new toy
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Apr 13, 2022 07:13
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Don Dongington posted:Whingepool probably is a pretty good sample set of the kind of overconfident middle aged man that hasn't already figured out that one party represents their interests more than the other, and that this isn't likely to change within their lifetime, aka swing voters. Swing voters are p obviously the dumbest, most uninformed people on the planet from literally every indication of them and it's lol that people somehow think they have wisdom and should be listened to
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Apr 13, 2022 07:15
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https://www.theguardian.com/austral...bseeker-payment at this stage a lot of the teals are to the left of labor on a lot of stuff lol
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Apr 13, 2022 08:08
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getting all of my election coverage through Betoota advocate instagram posts is more useful than whatever the media is doing
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Apr 13, 2022 08:31
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Anidav posted:Yeah sure. the ALP literally can't stop shooting themselves in the foot. Terri Butler in QLD is on the loving ropes because she literally can't not do corruption poo poo.
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Apr 13, 2022 09:09
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https://twitter.com/dallaskilponen/status/1514150838486573058
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Apr 13, 2022 10:16
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wait what did Terri Butler do if she has an established negative reputation there then Griffith should be very winnable by the Greens this election, in the same way that South Brisbane was at the state election
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Apr 13, 2022 10:19
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Are you getting Terri Butler mixed up with Jackie Trad?
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Apr 13, 2022 10:24
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Everybody in every job should join their union
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Apr 13, 2022 10:35
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Apr 13, 2022 10:36
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Leigh Sales with a straight face telling Adam Bandt that if the Greens tax billionaires more then they'll have less to donate to charitable causes
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Apr 13, 2022 11:37
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Don Dongington posted:The fact that state Labor goverments manage to cut through and have gained government basically everywhere but NSW (which is a basketcase politically) means that there is a pathway to victory, but I'd be curious to know how much the media backing of the Liberals in WA for example impacted local's trust for said institutions. If all state and Federal governments are Liberal it makes people more likely to vote for a chance, and state governments have less ability to change taxes on the rich which is most of the reason they want a Liberal federal government.
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Apr 13, 2022 12:07
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Jumpsuit posted:Leigh Sales with a straight face telling Adam Bandt that if the Greens tax billionaires more then they'll have less to donate to charitable causes journalists questioning policies? drat
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Apr 13, 2022 12:42
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Are you getting Terri Butler mixed up with Jackie Trad? These drat labor pollies are just so forgettable I’ll say
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Apr 13, 2022 12:57
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Jumpsuit posted:Leigh Sales with a straight face telling Adam Bandt that if the Greens tax billionaires more then they'll have less to donate to charitable causes finally a journalist with some courage
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Apr 13, 2022 12:59
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Jumpsuit posted:Leigh Sales with a straight face telling Adam Bandt that if the Greens tax billionaires more then they'll have less to donate to charitable causes jfc it got worse leigh sales posted:and b, wouldnt their direct charitable spending be a more efficient and sort of i guess direct use of their resources than having it siphoned through government and then reallocated
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Apr 13, 2022 13:17
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-13/liberal-candidate-allison-bluck-apologises-over-identity-claim/100989456quote:A Liberal candidate has apologised over a bizarre false statement in which she appeared to claim credit for the work of a woman with a similar name who is a conservationist on Kangaroo Island. ??? lol some staffer got ahead of themselves i guess
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Apr 13, 2022 13:25
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:Everybody in every job should join their union Unions, as a concept, are great. Everybody who doesn't pay their own salary should definitely be on board with the concept, and make themselves aware of how much of what we take for granted is a result of direct action by unions in the 19th and 20th centuries. Unions, as individual political entities, are deeply flawed. The ALP are basically the avatar of union leadership types across the country. Heavily technocratic, often due to having spent too much time focused on industrial law, which like all lawyering is fairly technical and revolves heavily around the use of specific language and and process. This has a lot to do with the way the Fair Work act forces them to use Enterprise Bargaining as the sole instrument for change. The next 3-4 years of your ability to deliver positive outcomes to members hangs entirely off the strength of the clauses that go into the EBA, and your ability to negotiate and horse trade entitlements. So wonks are naturally in high demand, not just as industrial staff but in leadership roles, as success may depend on their ability to direct the industrial staff to achieve said outcomes. Unions in general have also lost a lot of their organising capability, as well as their membership density, which is a bit of a chicken/egg situation as far as I see it. The focus on industrial success in bargaining and dispute resolution in an increasingly adversarial environment (as the Libs appoint more and more partisan hacks as commissioners) means that paid organising work falls by the wayside. This may be less true of larger trades-oriented unions with huge and active memberships, but it certainly seems to be the case in public sector unions, and education. People in organising roles spend the bulk of their time servicing, not organising. So growth stagnates or drops, participation is weak, and any wins go unnoticed by people who don't follow the union on social media. Which relates to the third major challenge, in that members seem to see the unions as service providers, rather than a fraternity to which they belong. "What is the union going to do about this" is an extremely common phrase heard in unionised workplaces. If you pay dues, you're part of the union, and you shouldn't feel like you need to sit around and wait for a paid staff member to wander in and make the bad thing go away. Rank and file delegate networks are extremely powerful things, and whether it's due to autocratic actors in leadership roles or just the nature of the transactional relationships we seem to focus on in society today, they're dying out. On the other hand, people who DO put their hand up to be local delegates often find themselves being ignored, overloaded, or pushed into running for elected positions they weren't really that interested in, where they may have been better positioned to organise their work area. Based on what we've seen abroad, the path to success for the union movement seems to be to rely less on governing bodies, comms strategies, branding exercises, social media campaigns and wins in the commission that nobody outside of the branch office will ever hear about, and more on grass roots organising. Get people in a work area talking about their own challenges, and how they might collectively flip management the bird instead of filling in a web form and getting a response back in 2 days saying "there's no clear industrial pathway here, sorry mate".
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Apr 13, 2022 14:38
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ill start the wiki
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Apr 13, 2022 14:52
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Apr 13, 2022 16:05
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username/post see also the elderly dog they trotted out that was too arthritic to refuse the photo op https://twitter.com/joneshowdareyou/status/1514058367035133954 Janitor Ludwich IV posted:prime minister adam bandt This, with total sincerity. I don’t care if I’m channelling the Artilleryman from War of the Worlds; I need this hope, only reality shall crush it, and it won’t be doing that for a month and a bit. May 21st needs to bring full Steven Bradbury realness. Watch which media outlets poo poo the bed because they didn’t even bother to have graphics ready for if the nation Bandt together (eh? eh?) against both major parties’ bullshit. (Even Bandt won’t have exactly what he was hoping for - a mere balance of power tends to socially distance one from the sword of Damocles.) It could give Barnaby an aneurysm. It could give Rupert an aneurysm. Surely in this light, #1 Greens is nothing less than our patriotic duty?
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Apr 13, 2022 16:50
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Swing voters are p obviously the dumbest, most uninformed people on the planet from literally every indication of them and it's lol that people somehow think they have wisdom and should be listened to Well they should be listened to in the sense that they're the 5% of the population, in a country with mandatory voting, who actually determine the result of every election.
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Apr 13, 2022 21:28
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Political cartoonists really don't have much work to do
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Apr 14, 2022 02:51
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"Only 5 minutes after the unemployment rate was released, Anthony Albanese was once again asked by a journalist what the unemployment rate was. "
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Apr 14, 2022 02:54
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Morrison - Coalition Election victory Woman with arms around dog - Pro-Coalition mainstream media Dog - Australian voters
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Apr 14, 2022 02:58
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Don Dongington posted:The fact that state Labor goverments manage to cut through and have gained government basically everywhere but NSW (which is a basketcase politically) means that there is a pathway to victory, but I'd be curious to know how much the media backing of the Liberals in WA for example impacted local's trust for said institutions. There is obviously a way forward here, however the last Opposition leader of WA was engaged to the editor of the West Australian newspaper, so there's obviously issues there with media bias. You should have seen the Mandurah Mail when he first got elected, the only news they published for months were puff pieces about him - including his wedding to his ex-wife. You don't have to imagine, you can go look, but if you're lazy just imagine it. Political candidate gets married, see all the pics!
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Apr 14, 2022 03:47
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Anidav posted:"Only 5 minutes after the unemployment rate was released, Anthony Albanese was once again asked by a journalist what the unemployment rate was. " wheres this from
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Apr 14, 2022 04:11
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"During a wide-ranging press conference in the Hunter, Anthony Albanese was grilled on how Labor would manage any resurgence of the people-smuggling trade." lol e: picturing a bunch of people smugglers salivating at the idea of a labor government and getting very worried so i vote 1 LNP
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Apr 14, 2022 04:20
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Mr albo, a meteor is heading to South Africa as we speak, what does Labor do
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Apr 14, 2022 04:22
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Might go One Nation this year. Really proud of their strides towards diversity with an Indian candidate and a Filipino candidate, George Christensen
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Apr 14, 2022 04:40
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:Might go One Nation this year. Really proud of their strides towards diversity with an Indian candidate and a Filipino candidate, George Christensen 
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