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some kinda jackal posted:I just wanted ten episodes of PS and De Lancie trading quips for 45 minutes, IS THIS TOO MUCH TO ASK PARAMOUNT?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS6K6GQGU94&t=44s Q posted:Gul Dukat! Executed in the Ethian forests just outside the capital city--put up a hell of a fight. In this reality, he's the reason you have that nifty synthetic body. The implication is Dukat killed Picard, or at least beat the hell out of him to the point where Picard needed a completely new shell to house his consciousness and Picard turned around and paid him back in kind, IOU one Robo Dukat.
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I've been picturing it as Dukat was such a badass that Picard was only able to defeat him at the cost of his own life, and someone put him in the synth body afterwards. Eventually he goes back and collects the skull, plus maybe those Cardassian weapons and armor he had on display also belonged to Dukat. I'm not sure there's a good way to do it in live action at this point, but if they ever do something like Star Wars Visions I'd love to see that fight, sounds like it was a real slobberknocker
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nine-gear crow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS6K6GQGU94&t=44s Picard’s Hall of Skulls is my new doom rock band name
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Picard and Dukat had an epic battle in the fire caves of Bajor. I imagine Picard pulled a Klingon knife at one point. If Dukat was still a spoonhead, does that mean he never turned himself Bajoran and got freaky with kai wynn?
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Poke Chop posted:Picard and Dukat had an epic battle in the fire caves of Bajor. I imagine Picard pulled a Klingon knife at one point. None of DS9 ever happened because the Confederate version of Emissary, Part II ended with Sisko blowing up the wormhole and killing the Prophets rather than negotiating with them and becoming their emissary.
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Delsaber posted:I've been picturing it as Dukat was such a badass that Picard was only able to defeat him at the cost of his own life, and someone put him in the synth body afterwards. Eventually he goes back and collects the skull, plus maybe those Cardassian weapons and armor he had on display also belonged to Dukat. After this adventure, the new centerpiece of Picard's collection should be his own (original) skull.
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Powered Descent posted:After this adventure, the new centerpiece of Picard's collection should be his own (original) skull. Picard his his original skull mounted on the wall in line of sight of his desk in his study, only instead of "memento mori" it says "oblivisci mortem" on the plaque below it. Also do you think the dipshit who willfully parted ways an Alexander Hamilton fun buck to force everyone to continually look at <--- this equally large dipshit's face is regretting it by now?
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nine-gear crow posted:None of DS9 ever happened because the Confederate version of Emissary, Part II ended with Sisko blowing up the wormhole and killing the Prophets rather than negotiating with them and becoming their emissary. drat, i guess that means no maquis and no voyager either.
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Poke Chop posted:drat, i guess that means no maquis and no voyager either. Janeway is probably President Hansen's Secretary of Defense in the Confederation, so all of Star Corps reports directly to her. So by default every Confederate war crime is a Kathryn Janeway brand™ war crime.
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At that point can you really even call them warcimes?
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The only reason I'll accept that Janeway isn't ruling the Confederacy is that she just appointed Annika while she went off to crush the Delta Quadrant with an iron fist.
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I'm assuming that the leader of the confederation is a civilian position. Janeway would want to be an Admiral commanding a fleet to stomp out every last Borg and Kazon she can find.
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No official date yet, they will be after Lower Decks which is after Strange New Worlds ends/near its end. So far they haven't skipped weeks between shows in 2022
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xerxus posted:one mystery solved.
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nine-gear crow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS6K6GQGU94&t=44s Ohhhh thank you, for some reason I heard "synthetic body" but just somehow took it as Picard's artificial heart. Probably hearing what I want to hear because the Picardrone is still a really really stupid thing to have happened and I'm trying to forget it at every opportunity  I know Avery might be done with Trek (is he? I just keep assuming things I remember are correct) but not getting a Confederation cameo from him is kind of a bummer. He plays such a scenery chewing villain. Seeing him ham it up as an evil Confederation warlord might have made this entire slog worthwhile. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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I can kind of see Avery Brooks having issues with laughing it up as an evil racist leader of the Confedera
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Powered Descent posted:After this adventure, the new centerpiece of Picard's collection should be his own (original) skull. I wonder what happened to Picards original body back in the prime timeline.
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Delsaber posted:I've been picturing it as Dukat was such a badass that Picard was only able to defeat him at the cost of his own life, and someone put him in the synth body afterwards. Eventually he goes back and collects the skull, plus maybe those Cardassian weapons and armor he had on display also belonged to Dukat. I like to think they found Picard dead with Dukat's skull clutched in his hands, and surrounding meters of forest flattened and soaked red.
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Eimi posted:The only reason I'll accept that Janeway isn't ruling the Confederacy is that she just appointed Annika while she went off to crush the Delta Quadrant with an iron fist. in the Confederacy timeline, coffee plants went extinct in 2057 and Janeway never had the energy to get into the Star Corps Academy
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Payndz posted:I can kind of see Avery Brooks having issues with laughing it up as an evil racist leader of the Confedera Hmm, also true. Cheerfully withdrawn but still sad we don't get
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Brawnfire posted:I like to think they found Picard dead with Dukat's skull clutched in his hands, and surrounding meters of forest flattened and soaked red. So basically the end of Predator had Dutch not gotten out of the blast radius? Yeah I’m down with that.
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CaptainSkinny posted:But wouldn't he still need a mechanic instead of a doctor? Otherwise he's a clone, not a robot. Something would be different. Drink-Mix Man posted:I think it's pretty safe to say at this point we're going to be in 2024 until the last episode. 
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Picard said "Guys, I need help" in the last episode. Picard would never use the word "guys" except as a joke, which suggests that this is actually Evil Confederate Picard.
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more and more airtime spent on trips to earlier in the timeline in order to avoid having to write actual post-Nemesis Federation storylines as time goes on, then there's the Temporal Cold War
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I just want Daniels to inexplicably appear one more time. Like “whoops”, and then he phases through wall, never to be seen again.
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HD DAD posted:I just want Daniels to inexplicably appear one more time. Huh. I forget when his time is supposed to be, did he come from pre or post Discovery season 3/4, and how far off is he either way? That could be a pretty funny cameo or something. I loved the way they worked the Enterprise musical stinger into the episode that mentioned Archer station or whatever, it was cute.
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Professor Beetus posted:Huh. I forget when his time is supposed to be, did he come from pre or post Discovery season 3/4, and how far off is he either way? That could be a pretty funny cameo or something. I loved the way they worked the Enterprise musical stinger into the episode that mentioned Archer station or whatever, it was cute. He's from a century or so pre-disco-season-4. That's almost certainly why Disco's writers chose the 32nd century, because the furthest we knew about anything was the 31st and the Federation was doing just fine then.
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Professor Beetus posted:Huh. I forget when his time is supposed to be, did he come from pre or post Discovery season 3/4, and how far off is he either way? That could be a pretty funny cameo or something. I loved the way they worked the Enterprise musical stinger into the episode that mentioned Archer station or whatever, it was cute. Pre, about a century before Disco season 3. He was always one of my favorite Trek minor characters. Archer: “didn’t you die” Daniels: “lmao yeah”
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drat, so focused on preserving the past they couldn't see the looming crisis ahead of them.
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Meaning, of course that the Federation had the technology to travel back in time and tell everyone to take their warp cores offline, or just go back and gather primary source data about wtf happened so they could fix it in the future (Temporal Prime Directive Complaint, that). But nah, they were doomed by hack writing to be content with a Galaxy of suffering and slavery.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Meaning, of course that the Federation had the technology to travel back in time and tell everyone to take their warp cores offline, or just go back and gather primary source data about wtf happened so they could fix it in the future (Temporal Prime Directive Complaint, that). But nah, they were doomed by hack writing to be content with a Galaxy of suffering and slavery. Eh, it'd be pretty easy to technobabble something about the Burn also ending their ability to time travel freely, given that it is a broken rear end thing to just have at your disposal when trying to tell sci-fi stories and every plot having to be written around it would be annoying. I get the feeling that when Enterprise was written, there were no plans to have a Star Trek series set in the 32nd Century and they figured that 31st was safely far enough in the future for it to just be a thing. Now what might have been better would have been Discovery taking place in the 27th or 28th Century, and that way you can use the 31st century stuff of Enterprise as a "hey look, things do get better again and the fractured federation isn't the status quo going forward."
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Look it was against the treaty. Never you mind who they made the treaty with, it was against it!
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some kinda jackal posted:Ohhhh thank you, for some reason I heard "synthetic body" but just somehow took it as Picard's artificial heart. I didn't pick up on what Q meant at first either. Considering one of the producers said they weren't going to be "pressing forward with the idea of the hybridization of Picard and synthetic" I think it's pretty funny how often it's been brought up in the season so far.
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Maybe the better thing would be to not worry about all the fate of the Federation canon stuff and just tell stories that are compelling because you care about the characters and concept. If they wanted to do a time jump, they could have gone to any time period post TNG and just hand waved any discrepancies with the 29th century stuff as “time travel stuff must have happened,” because really who ever cared about that storyline anyway. Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/gazelle_inc/status/1514021229614747648
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Everything about that, to include the random Kzin at the helm, is amazing and perfect.
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A.o.D. posted:Everything about that, to include the random Kzin at the helm, is amazing and perfect. Also the fact that the Borg cube and drones use the pink and purple colour scheme too, because the Kzinti in TAS were supposed to have gray uniforms and ships and the animators went with purple instead because the episode's director was colorblind and the lead colorist of the animation team was obsessed with using secondary colors for poo poo.
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