Death By The Blues posted:

So not sure if this was covered but there is another kooky far right party that is running in the Ontario provincial election:

https://www.newblueontario.com/new-blue-print

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

https://twitter.com/CBCCalgary/status/1514300184301293809?t=AJeOssuWEc2dyiRHRryeDA&s=19


This loving guy has us all beat.

Karach posted:

Is it some piece of common sense in Ontario chudland that windmills are holding back economic growth?

Karach posted:

Is it some piece of common sense in Ontario chudland that windmills are holding back economic growth?

Petanque posted:

the best ideas come from windows 98 screensavers. i hope he promises flying toasters next

Another Bill posted:

[HEARS A MAN EXTOL BITCOIN AND PROMISE TO BUILD PIPELINES IN ALL DIRECTIONS]

CanPol: it is ordained, this man will lead us three years hence

Fried Watermelon posted:

They make too much wind and cause people to be less productive obviously

vyelkin posted:

two wind turbines were in my backyard making wind and i saw the wind and the wind looked at me

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No ones even addressed the massive power lines that have been buried thru our front yard causing ridiculous amounts of radiation I'm sure?
Some neighbors have moved do the sleeping disorders these have caused... for what? It made a few jobs for local companies, the actual building company is from Germany....there satellite controlled from Germany

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Wind turbines have various large parts built using heavy metals. Now, because these heavy metals/rare earths are mined and refined outside of Canada, resulting in massively high cancer rates, then that is nothing we have to worry about. But now we Do, apparently. We don't need wind farms anyway, particularly at the known cost to the Ontario consumer.

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Can the wind turbines be compared to those in the Dutch country? I think their model are different - maybe ours are not at optimum quality. They have a large farming industry also - I would check on that.

Karach posted:

CLAM DOWN posted:

HOW

CLAM DOWN posted:

HOW

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One word �Concrete� one of the most toxic man made substances. Look it up and wake up!!!

Karach posted:

Dreylad posted:

jean charest might be promising people gundams, but pierre is going to give us the third impact

why yes i did watch a bunch of robot anime for the first time in the last lockdown so i can make 25 year old references, thank you

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Kevin Jakubec, spokesman for Water Wells First and an area farmer, says the concern is that vibrations � either from pile driving during the construction phase or, eventually, the everyday operations of the turbines � might disturb the fragile Kettle Point black shale bedrock and contaminate the ancient aquifer that serves as the local source of well water. The worry was justified: It is well established that vibrations from pile driving can damage nearby structures.

As for ordinary turbine operations, one recent Canadian study found a relationship between the vibrations and ground material within 100 metres of the structure.

Moreover, Water Wells First contends that the company and ministry didn�t take the special characteristics of the local geology into account. Residents realized their worst fears as the project began the construction phase last summer. Nineteen wells began to experience sediment problems, Jakubec says � nearly a third of the 64 wells that the group members had tested at their own expense. Bill Clarke, a hydrogeologist for Water Wells First who gathered and analyzed the samples, says follow-up testing showed the affected wells experienced changes in water turbidity, amount of particles, colour, and rate of flow.

While he says some of the changes were marginal, others were alarming. In one instance, the black shale particle count jumped from 47 particles per millilitre to 681,939 � with nearly half of the particles being as tiny as those found in cigarette smoke.

Tiny particles are potentially dangerous because they can be too small ever to settle to the bottom of a well, nor can they be controlled using conventional water filtration systems. Heather Gingerich, a medical geologist based in Ingersoll, says the acidic atmosphere in the stomach can break down the binding between a clay-based shale particle and any heavy metals attached, allowing the metals to settle in other areas of the body rather than to pass through our digestive system. �What is actually happening out there as best as I can put together,� Clarke says, �is that there are vibrations that are happening down around the 20-metre level, where the top of the shale is taking place.�

The vibrations � from pile driving, and later, from the turbines� operation � create waves like the ripples that fan out in water when people throw rocks into a pond. When the waves from different turbines intersect, they can either cancel each other out, he says � or amplify the effect.

�If you have a well at that intersection where waves are really reinforcing each other,� it means the shale at the base of the well is being shaken as hard as it would be in an earthquake. That kicks up the particles, and you�re �going to see your water go a [dark] colour.�

Karach posted:

Is it some piece of common sense in Ontario chudland that windmills are holding back economic growth?

Fried Watermelon posted:

Could you imagine a conservative in the prairies voting for a guy with a french name

Karach posted:

it's possible that much of Canada is very stupid

Karach posted:

Is it some piece of common sense in Ontario chudland that windmills are holding back economic growth?

CLAM DOWN posted:

HOW

Futanari Damacy posted:

Wind: poison

Coal, oil, gas: the cleanest goddamn thing you've ever seen

Another Bill posted:

It must feel amazing to live everyday with the confidence of knowing what's going to happen THREE YEARS in the future

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"We're the richest anybody's been in the history of the universe," said professor emeritus Jon Cohen with the hyperbole permitted to an 82-year-old economic historian who says he's seen it all. "That doesn't mean we necessarily stay that way, but right now, yeah, it's the best of times."

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"People's perception of the economy does seem to be way out of line with how bad things really are," said Nobel Prize-winning economist and columnist Paul Krugman in a podcast Monday.

'A media failure'

Krugman said he'd seen polls of people in the U.S. convinced the country was losing jobs. Instead, the North American economy is in a time of record-low unemployment.

The U.S. economist called that "a media failure." He also said that U.S. self-identified conservatives were the ones most convinced the economy is in terrible shape, "worse than it was in 1980 when we had eight per cent unemployment and 14 per cent inflation."

Karach posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/economic-health-column-don-pittis-1.6418102



Ever-diminishing odds of surviving to old age due to biosphere collapse? Ah, a failure of propaganda.

Karach posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/economic-health-column-don-pittis-1.6418102



Ever-diminishing odds of surviving to old age due to biosphere collapse? Ah, a failure of propaganda.

vyelkin posted:

Leaving aside the dumb economist optimism, this talking point is also probably just wrong. I can't find the article now but I read a piece a couple of months ago about how people just lie on polls because even if they know the factual answer to a question like "is unemployment up or down since last year", they interpret it as a partisan question and answer in a partisan way. Public opinion researchers have discovered that if you pay people for correct answers on polls, most people know the correct answer to those kinds of factual questions, but when polled on it they choose to answer incorrectly because it's a signifier of how well they think the politicians in charge are doing.