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Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


well she wasn't the original creator of the conversion bureau, she just wrote fanfiction for it

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the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
Ten Earth Shattering Blows








A bittersweet reunion with an old friend, and also Landabella's escort from Chapter 1 is here. NSFW

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.






readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
Ranking of Kings










The anime cuts the little bit of narration explaining the demon which I think works better. I like the idea that there is no precedent for this whatsoever and it's exactly as weird to the cast as it is to us.

Also I love that sideways laugh the demon does. It's a great little touch.



ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
Makai no Ossan








The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

readingatwork posted:

The anime cuts the little bit of narration explaining the demon which I think works better. I like the idea that there is no precedent for this whatsoever and it's exactly as weird to the cast as it is to us.

The narration implies that the death was 'unexpected', which is... a thing.

Lurk Ethic
Jul 25, 2007

Lurk More
The Property of Hate



Lurk Ethic has a new favorite as of 04:26 on Apr 14, 2022

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Splicer posted:

Please do not damage the thread savant.

The art for the weird mute wartmonster porn comic gives me the same vibes as the art for Hierarchy of Genres. It just feels off somehow; a scratchy feeling in the brain. You can feel the crazy amounts off effort that went into it. Lines erased and redrawn for hours.
Meanwhile stuff like Nedroid or KC Green or Ranking of Kings looks like the artist finds drawing as easy as breathing.

tired gay and dead
Apr 4, 2022

by Hand Knit
I like the complicated art and the simple art, I never got why people disliked heirarchy so much really

e-dt
Sep 16, 2019


This is a pretty handy trick for travellers

You are in second place, because you have not passed the person who is in first place.

Lyle got a mouth for Christmas

CrocodileKingSaysNO
Jul 25, 2007

Fantastic

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

KTP ULL is a great onomatopoeia for a catapult firing.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



theironjef posted:

KTP ULL is a great onomatopoeia for a catapult firing.

How'd you think they got their name? :confused:

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Captain Hygiene posted:

How'd you think they got their name? :confused:

THis here is the cruellest of nerd bait.

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

tired gay and dead posted:

I like the complicated art and the simple art, I never got why people disliked heirarchy so much really

And yea, SSSS, KSBD and Ten Earth etc have complicated art that I absolutely love. But there's something migraine-y about Hierarchy...

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

They're named after the blimp.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Tree Bucket posted:

The art for the weird mute wartmonster porn comic gives me the same vibes as the art for Hierarchy of Genres. It just feels off somehow; a scratchy feeling in the brain. You can feel the crazy amounts off effort that went into it. Lines erased and redrawn for hours.
Meanwhile stuff like Nedroid or KC Green or Ranking of Kings looks like the artist finds drawing as easy as breathing.

I feel like the common theme is that a lot of effort goes into individual strips but none into planning. Heirarchy's been started over at least once probably because the artist/author felt they drew themselves into a corner while not-Deegan is just plodding along with whatever he can throw together at the last minute.

Hempuli
Nov 16, 2011



I think I get what Tree Bucket means; there are some comics where the art is impressive in terms of detail and obvious amount of work put into it, but there are some subtle elements that (for me, personally) invoke some sense of things being slightly off which makes the comic as a whole feel vaguely unpleasant to look at. I've assumed it's probably some combination of slightly uncanny valley-ish character designs combined with personal preference stuff like line width and colours used. Hierarchy of Genres definitely had that issue for me, where there was a lot of detail and technically impressive perspective, layout etc., but the character designs and proportions irked me in some way, as well as the colours.

TLDR: some artists have styles that I don't like, and sometimes it's hard to say why and that sucks because the art can be in many ways cool.

Anyway, I recently remembered the webcomic A Lesson Is Learned But The Damage Is Irreversible. It's a surreal comic with no overarching narrative where each comic introduces elements in a dreamlike fashion and the topics and content vary wildly. Some of the comics I don't "get" at all, while some have excellent absurd humour or poignancy to them. It ran from 2004 to 2013 (although looks like it never officially ended, the comics just stopped), and it was made by David Hellman (the art) & Dale Beran (the writing). Many of the comics feature the two as protagonists, too. Hellman might be familiar to some as e.g. the artist for the indie video game Braid. There are only ~40 comics to post but I thought I'd post them one at a time here if people don't mind. They start off pretty short but by the end they tell some much larger stories.

THE ADVENTURE BEGINS
July 15, 2004

Both authors have written a bunch of text underneath every comic, I wonder if I should copy that here?

EDIT:
Actually, these first couple comics have so little to them that I'll post several at a time.

HO CONOSCIUTO UNA RAGAZZA ITALIANA DI SPOLETO
July 17, 2004


AMBITIOUS YOUNG MEN PLAY THE PIANO OF SUCCESS!
July 19, 2004



THE CONVENIENCE OF EVENTUALITY
July 21, 2004
(There's a hard R-word there, sorry about that :/)

I think this fourth comic illustrates what these will be like somewhat well (apart from the slur.)

Hempuli has a new favorite as of 06:50 on Apr 14, 2022

Technocrat
Jan 30, 2011

I always finish what I sta

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos

Splicer posted:

I know a lot of Dashcon lore but this is throwing me.

Or are you saying you were at Dashcon? If you were at dashcon please tell first hand stories of dashcon. Watching dashcon unfold it one of my wife and I's fondest memories.

The only story I have from there is like... way too filthy for the forums, even for my admittedly low standards.

Splicer posted:


Is a singleton cheaper or is it a two for one deal?

It's 100$ and I take money off for everything I like for it, lesbians are -10% buff lesbians are -20% and if you can find the secret word it's -30%


E: I think I'm understanding the process where you do poo poo ironically, and then it actually subsumes your personality and stops being ironic. I don't know exactly when being horny on main stopped being a joke, but this is me now.

Boba Pearl has a new favorite as of 08:34 on Apr 14, 2022

Post poste
Mar 29, 2010

Boba Pearl posted:

100$ and I take money off for everything I like for it, lesbians are -10% buff lesbians are -20% and if you can find the secret word it's -30%

The secret word is traumatic amputation, isn't it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Boba Pearl posted:

The only story I have from there is like... way too filthy for the forums, even for my admittedly low standards.

For these forums? I'm both curious and terrified.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I feel like the common theme is that a lot of effort goes into individual strips but none into planning. Heirarchy's been started over at least once probably because the artist/author felt they drew themselves into a corner while not-Deegan is just plodding along with whatever he can throw together at the last minute.

Same with that other story, Serious Engineering. They just got fed up and started over. Well I got fed up getting invested in stories that end abruptly. So I also stopped reading hierarchy because I figured it's gonna be a waste of time and they'll stop that too and redo it again.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


His Divine Shadow posted:

Same with that other story, Serious Engineering. They just got fed up and started over. Well I got fed up getting invested in stories that end abruptly. So I also stopped reading hierarchy because I figured it's gonna be a waste of time and they'll stop that too and redo it again.

they did it twice to serious engineering, right? because they went back and rewrote parts of it and now i'm just. ugh. i was really enjoying it but i don't think i'll read anything of theirs again because it's such a disappointment to be invested that many times and get a wipe.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Tree Bucket posted:

The art for the weird mute wartmonster porn comic gives me the same vibes as the art for Hierarchy of Genres. It just feels off somehow; a scratchy feeling in the brain. You can feel the crazy amounts off effort that went into it. Lines erased and redrawn for hours.
Meanwhile stuff like Nedroid or KC Green or Ranking of Kings looks like the artist finds drawing as easy as breathing.

this implies that you do not read Legacy of Dominic Deegan, and thus are pure. but the artist puts no effort in whatsoever lol.

it's copy-pastes and scribbles all the way down, although i agree that there's nothing easy about its creation process in the same way that e.g. a nedroid comic might have

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
I will not say what parts are over exagerated, under exagerated, or which parts were changed to protect identities. Assume it's all bullshit.

Well everyone knows about the rumor that the BDSM panel at Dashcon had live demonstrations, and how it was debunked because there was wooden floors and Dashcon had wooden floors? Part of that is because of... Certain clean up hazards, a faux tile mat was laid out with a pattern wood panelling over the carpet. The guy who took the video said the whole thing was made up because they were getting blasted on Tumblr, and a bunch of people from that day ended up getting crabs. I heard this third hand from the chick I was dating at the time, who heard it from a brony she knew through some circle. We were gonna go, but I had sense that it was going to be a poo poo show, and also kids were going to get in and anyone who showed up was probably a pedo. Not like a brony pony thing, but the whole thing was sketch as gently caress. I don't go anywhere near conventions like that. There either wholesome, or they're explicitly for sucking and trucking. Like BDSM or the kink walk at pride is one thing, but if there's a mix of adults and kids and not a ton of security / name tags / all that poo poo I stay the gently caress away. I'm a transwoman, it's impossible to avoid being called a pedophile at one of these things (though I was still an egg at the time and just thought I loved drag.) I didn't go to dashcon, but I did go to a bunch of bars around Dashcon.

I saw someone do Goatse IRL and then turned their butthole into a prawn when they prolapsed.


Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


thank you for sharing that delightful story lol

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos
I'm not 50 ft ant, I'm not going to tell you a story is real unless I know it's real.

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!

Boba Pearl posted:

I'm not 50 ft ant, I'm not going to tell you a story is real unless I know it's real.

that's too bad, 50fa was a great story teller... what was lacking was our ability to give a brief moment to an imaginative creative.

anyway, please continue, if wind beneath your wings you need, BasicLich is raedy and able

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe

Boba Pearl posted:

I saw someone do Goatse IRL and then turned their butthole into a prawn when they prolapsed.

What's that, some kind of pastry anus?

Mr. Sunshine
May 15, 2008

This is a scrunt that has been in space too long and become a Lunt (Long Scrunt)

Fun Shoe

Boba Pearl posted:

It's 100$ and I take money off for everything I like for it, lesbians are -10% buff lesbians are -20% and if you can find the secret word it's -30%

Buff lesbians...please?

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


convention horror stories definitely belong in the pyf comic thread, i don't have very many con horror stories. apart from the old creepy guys at anthrocon who push around the plush fox trolley. they told me they read my comics. that was.. .. .. .something

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

it is insane to me to think of webcomics having a real-life aspect

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


just lol if you've never had to deal with stalkers sending you pictures of your mother due to webcomics

e: this is unrelated to the anthrocon guys

Tree Bucket
Apr 1, 2016

R.I.P.idura leucophrys

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

it is insane to me to think of webcomics having a real-life aspect

Mx. posted:

just lol if you've never had to deal with stalkers sending you pictures of your mother due to webcomics

It sounds like they really really shouldn't

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Dashcon def had to be Mike Tyson level where there's nothing about it that's fully impossible to believe. Especially in retrospect given the Tumblr crowd were even more hosed up than anyone thought.

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos

Tree Bucket posted:

It sounds like they really really shouldn't

No, boba pearl exists as an entity that I hope will only exist outside of space and time.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
New Adventures of the Duck Avenger, issue #12, Second Draft



Written by Alessandro Sisti (Two, The Day of the Cold Sun, Portrait of the Hero as a Young Duck and Silicon), art by Claudio Sciarrone (Shadows on Venus, The Day of the Cold Sun and Silicon)




Starts off with a nice little recap on how Donald Duck came to be the wealthy CEO we all know and love.

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Seldom Posts
Jul 4, 2010

Grimey Drawer

Mx. posted:

they did it twice to serious engineering, right? because they went back and rewrote parts of it and now i'm just. ugh. i was really enjoying it but i don't think i'll read anything of theirs again because it's such a disappointment to be invested that many times and get a wipe.

I liked it and hierarchy of genres, and yeah I'm not really interested in going back after the reboots.

I wish they had just stuck with them instead of folding after mild criticism. There are always going to be people who don't like what you're doing. I read the first arc of Hitman for Destiny and then dropped out during the big exposition cafeteria bit but obviously tons of people love that comic.

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