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Rincewinds posted:Oh, good, Danish policies are spreading, just add it to the pile of things nobody wanted. Denmark and Britain are close partners in migrant hatred.
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Apr 14, 2022 11:00
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Simon Hart posted:male economic migrants This is all part and parcel of ignoring major conflicts like the Tigray War and its spillover and the Insurgency in the Maghreb so that people fleeing those can be painted as less deserving compared to people fleeing e.g. the Russo-Ukrainian War. e: While also failing people fleeing that but in different ways.
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Private Speech posted:c) How is this different from a sentence of transportation? it's not called transportation and it's not technically punishment for a crime
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Lungboy posted:Keep in mind that these are one-way tickets, there's no expectation that anyone deemed "legitimate" will be brought back to the UK, rather that they'll be encouraged to make a new life in Rwanda. Private Speech posted:a) I'm sure Rwanda will welcome them with open arms. Doccykins posted:https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/research-subject-groups/centre-criminology/centreborder-criminologies/blog/2018/10/moving-under quote:All interviewees testified that upon landing in Rwanda the travel document produced by Israel, the only identity document in their possession, was taken away. They were transferred to a guarded hotel and were prevented, under threat, from leaving. None of them were given the opportunity to apply for asylum. Lacking identity documents and exposed to robberies and threats they were forced to embark on dangerous journeys. Dawit, who left Israel to Rwanda in December 2015, described it as follows: ‘We said we want to go to the UNHCR… But they tell us ‘no, no, no, you have a permit for three days… If you do not move to another country [by then] we will return [you] to your country… We are afraid.’
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I was being sarcastic there, but yes, unless the UK pays well over odds for it I doubt Rwanda is going to give much of a poo poo. I also wonder what happens to asylum seekers from Rwanda itself? It's not like it's the safest country in the world. e: Also if it's "about male economic migrants in the main" what about people like me, a male (legal) economic migrant from eastern europe? They clearly use "migrants" to mean "illegals, alien scum, just filth" but you'd expect ministers to be more careful with their words. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Apr 14, 2022 |
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bbc posted:Under the proposal, Rwanda would take responsibility for the people who make the more than 4,000 mile journey, put them through an asylum process, and at the end of that process, if they are successful, they will have long-term accommodation in Rwanda. So they aren't being taken for processing to seek asylum in the uk, they are becoming asylum seekers to rwanda.
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Private Speech posted:It's not like it's the safest country in the world. Boris just said it was! Is there any chance this gets ruled unlawful the first time it's challenged?
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Private Speech posted:I was being sarcastic there  The linked paper explains that this is basically the same policy that Israel did fairly recently, Rwanda already has an established process for this: just gently caress them off out of the country & hope they
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keep punching joe posted:Good to see Labour taking a firm stance again... Oh It feels like there ought to be a hundred good arguments against this Batman-villain-tier scheme that come to mind before the economics of it. It's like that Mitchell and Webb "kill the poor" sketch... would they even have an argument if it turned out it didn't cost us money? That's loving terrifying. Like, it reads like "unethical" is only given a side-glance in that tweet to fill up the rule of three. Absolutely poo poo opposition and I shouldn't be surprised but somehow...
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tbh Labour aren't wrong that the braying cunts care more about money than human lives
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^^^Isomermaid posted:It feels like there ought to be a hundred good arguments against this Batman-villain-tier scheme that come to mind before the economics of it. It's like that Mitchell and Webb "kill the poor" sketch... would they even have an argument if it turned out it didn't cost us money? That's loving terrifying. Like, it reads like "unethical" is only given a side-glance in that tweet to fill up the rule of three. This is the United Kingdom we are talking about here. A promise of £350 million on the side of a bus swayed an entire referendum.
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Tesseraction posted:tbh Labour aren't wrong that the braying cunts care more about money than human lives See also giant loving wave machines in the channel.
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https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1513856160595595284?s=20&t=RWD5BoeNm17w_LLwA6vIoQ This is worth reading. The Rwanda scheme is horrifying. Patel is literally a sociopath.
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Tesseraction posted:tbh Labour aren't wrong that the braying cunts care more about money than human lives Explain Brexit then because people were warned that it would make them poorer, it has made them poorer, and yet they still largely support it because of the 'send em all back' mentality.
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The British public is prepared to pay any cost to inflict cruelty on people they think deserve it.
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keep punching joe posted:Explain Brexit then because people were warned that it would make them poorer, it has made them poorer, and yet they still largely support it because of the 'send em all back' mentality.
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keep punching joe posted:Explain Brexit then because people were warned that it would make them poorer, it has made them poorer, and yet they still largely support it because of the 'send em all back' mentality. They believed it would make them richer. Remember Boris's bus? Now the fact they still support it is what we in the business call "doubling down"
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keep punching joe posted:Explain Brexit then because people were warned that it would make them poorer, it has made them poorer, and yet they still largely support it because of the 'send em all back' mentality. Also it largely hasn't made the key proponents (olds) poorer, because none of them work. I've literally not heard a single person saying "I lost my job over Brexit but still support it", whereas there were a tonne of people on the telly saying "I supported Brexit but didn't know it would make me poorer, what the gently caress"
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There's no mystery, just the majority of the British population would happily vote to make their own lives worse as long as it also means someone else's life is made even worse.
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Apr 14, 2022 12:02
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We will negotiate a more cost effective Concentration Camp.
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I was sure you would have gone with UKMT Spring 2022 - Hotel Rwanda but that is a bit tabloid.
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You've literally got a government minister with the "justifying brexit" portfolio
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Whenever famous TERF Sarah Ditum gets brought up I always remember her husband is one of the Playstation Access Youtube guys who spends his days playing vidyagames and seems reasonably sound or at least hasn't expressed any objectionable opinions publicly, and I wonder what on earth they have to chat about over dinner every night.
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Video gametes.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The British public is prepared to pay any cost to inflict cruelty on people they think deserve it. HOW TO SOLVE THE UK MIGRANT CRISIS IN 3 EASY STEPS 1. FREE VOODOO DOLL TO BE GIVEN AWAY WITH THE SUN, DAILY MAIL, DAILY EXPRESS, DAILY TELEGRAPH AND OTHER RIGHT WING PUBLICATIONS 2. READERS COLLECT TOKENS AND EXCHANGE FOR SPECIAL ANTI-CRIME NEEDLES 3. THE EVIL SPIRIT IS PURGED FROM OUR ONCE GREAT LAND
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Guavanaut posted:Video gametes. A large, immobile Xbox.
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No, she's a full on psychopath. A sociopath won't ever feel regret for what they've done, but they will occasionally feel guilt over any perceived need to have done it or have slight empathy for the people hurt by it. A psychopath will not and is incapable of doing so, because the only important thing is that they got to do what they wanted. Patel is indisputably in the latter category. You would think that the daughter of an immigrant would empathise with other immigrants if with anyone at all, but she's outright stated that she would have deported her own father if he came to the UK today in the same circumstances.
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Jedit posted:No, she's a full on psychopath. A sociopath won't ever feel regret for what they've done, but they will occasionally feel guilt over any perceived need to have done it or have slight empathy for the people hurt by it. A psychopath will not and is incapable of doing so, because the only important thing is that they got to do what they wanted. I thought the two words meant the same thing, but am happy to be corrected. She is literally evil.
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ThomasPaine posted:Whenever famous TERF Sarah Ditum gets brought up I always remember her husband is one of the Playstation Access Youtube guys who spends his days playing vidyagames and seems reasonably sound or at least hasn't expressed any objectionable opinions publicly, and I wonder what on earth they have to chat about over dinner every night. I wonder how much they talked about the column she wrote about needing her cleaner to work during lockdown to clean up after her hubby and kids
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https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-left-with-500t-of-beetroot-blames-brexit-and-red-tapequote:A farmer has been left with an unsold crop of organic beetroot worth £90,000, with his regular buyer blaming Brexit and new export controls. Bring on the revolution! Beetroots for all so we can chuck 'em in the air and shout "gently caress Capitalism!" https://twitter.com/PukkahPunjabi/status/981468709553360897?s=20&t=a1IJe-_6tRGa9xl5O3ZHtQ
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ThomasPaine posted:Whenever famous TERF Sarah Ditum gets brought up I always remember her husband is one of the Playstation Access Youtube guys who spends his days playing vidyagames and seems reasonably sound or at least hasn't expressed any objectionable opinions publicly, and I wonder what on earth they have to chat about over dinner every night. She said her husband hates spending time with her so much and never lifts a finger to help that she couldn't let her cleaner stay home during the first lockdown.
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Angepain posted:what the actual gently caress This is so blatantly the tories just trying to throw a bone to the base, on the off chance they might be mad at them "looks like Boris is in a spot of bother, time to throw some darkies to the wolves, that'll play well with the Thanet crowd" therattle posted:https://twitter.com/PeteApps/status/1513856160595595284?s=20&t=RWD5BoeNm17w_LLwA6vIoQ  gently caress
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-left-with-500t-of-beetroot-blames-brexit-and-red-tape If the supermarkets don't buy these beetroots then they should be ashamed, British beetroots for British people!
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Borrovan posted:I thought it was largely because of the sunk cost fallacy and a bunch of mental gymnastics that means it must have been the right thing to do because otherwise they would have been wrong & they can't be wrong There was a bunch of polling on this that basically showed that retired people were way more likely to accept people being worse off (even family members) because of brexit as a price worth paying. Pure coincidence it was them who were least likely to be worse off I'm sure. e: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/08/01/britain-nation-brexit-extremists Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 14, 2022 |
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Wait tomorrow's a holiday? From unemployment/the pandemic I'd forgotten
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Lord of the Llamas posted:There was a bunch of polling on this that basically showed that retired people were way more likely to accept people being worse off (even family members) because of brexit as a price worth paying. Pure coincidence it was them who were least likely to be worse off I'm sure.
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WhatEvil posted:All this talk of old sitcoms got me thinking about Open All Hours and how they did that revival Still Open All Hours where Granville (David Jason) had taken over the shop. Not great, not terrible.
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