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As someone who came online in 2001, the 1999 internet and the 2003 internet are VASTLY different beasts.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 13:20 |
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same In 2003 I could be tom's friend and you would have to be granted a gmail account by someone who had a gmail account. It was in the early phases of cybersecurity where you could do wizard poo poo like stealing another user's cookies and by telling a computer you were cool by saying 1=1. There's a lotta space to play in that era.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 17:52 |
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is gooper in the public domain by 2003???
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 21:16 |
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Gonna put chowder man lyrics in all my away messages
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 02:07 |
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Coolpunk's not dead!
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 02:51 |
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ErrEff posted:Speaking of ancient web design, https://www.webdesignmuseum.org is a real good resource for exploring old layouts. lmao whoaa
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 03:19 |
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That Space Jam website was up for like 2 decades until they made the sequel.
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 03:23 |
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Kaysette posted:That Space Jam website was up for like 2 decades until they made the sequel. Still technically there, baby https://www.spacejam.com/1996/
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 14:14 |
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The CNN OJ Simpson trial website it still up, in all it's 1995 glory. http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/
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# ? Apr 9, 2022 22:03 |
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I see the "zenny" symbol in the DS-OS interface -- is that gonna be the name of the currency?
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# ? Apr 10, 2022 02:50 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72CGLH2Qxvc https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/gallery/future-farmers-2001 What in the world? e: Even better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqmMexye3zU I love early-aughts flash-enabled websites with tons of unnecessary animations for everything you click on, that took like 20 seconds to load every time. King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Apr 10, 2022 |
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King Vidiot posted:I love early-aughts flash-enabled websites with tons of unnecessary animations for everything you click on, that took like 20 seconds to load every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvxLTN2j8ME I don't think most of us will ever forget them.
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# ? Apr 10, 2022 17:16 |
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Got my copy of the vinyl soundtrack and put it on and my wife went “hell yeah is this dad bod” when I reached side c. mission accomplished
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# ? Apr 15, 2022 05:20 |
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Hey woah what's the Hypnospace thread doing on the front paThe_Doctor posted:The future of Hypnospace... is soon. OHHHHHHH MY I am disgustingly excited. Played through HS three times and I've got them to thank for following Hot Dad and Dan Warren (Barnaby's Chair). I'll basically buy anything following it from this point on
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# ? Apr 15, 2022 05:36 |
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https://twitter.com/Zane_Rocks_36/status/1516739926750076934?t=y0M6KWd8_M7rF54BaTyBBQ&s=19
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# ? Apr 20, 2022 14:28 |
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I need more Zared. I listen to that EP way more than I probably should
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# ? Apr 22, 2022 08:43 |
Tombot posted:Slayers X seems to be going for a very untouched genre in the modern retro shooter renescience: "Dodgy looking early 3D first-person shooters that you saw on store shelves that you looked at the back of the box of, but never actually bought and sometimes wondered about years later". In particular it makes me think of this old adventure game where you thwart a conspiracy that involves weird machines hidden in couches; I can't for the life of me remember what it is called or find it on google. Normality?
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 07:20 |
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Ahh yeah, Normality is brought up a lot. Probably because of Zane's room looking kinda like the bedroom from that game + the 'tude + the pre-rendered stuff. also Nintendo Power interviewed Zane here: https://www.nintendolife.com/features/an-interview-with-zanerocks36-the-cool-dude-behind-doom-style-shooter-slayers-x
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 09:31 |
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Gaspy Conana posted:I see these games more as a vehicle for the the characters who populate the world and the mundane alternate-history things they're into. With Hypnospace I guess the hook was "remember this old internet stuff!" but the actual thing that caught folks' attention (and the thing I cared most about) were the characters, the things they make and share, the ways they clash with one another, and how they bump up against the systems they're stuck into. As someone who started really getting Extremely Online around 1996/7 (which, segway here, I was way too loving young to have been allowed to do that given I was around 10. Kids even younger than that now being given an ipad and being told to go hog-wild letting the internet be used as a baby sitter is almost child-abuse, it was absolutely brain poison then, and it's brain poison now), one of the vibes of the internet around that time was excitement and interest in sharing experiences in a new shared wild west space. People had not yet built-up 90-ft thick hardened steel cynical shells built out of years of abrasion and post-modern cynicism that (innately?) develops over years of interacting with a anonymized shared space of unholy amounts of people in real-time that almost no one in history had ever experienced before. Instead it was one where people often laid bare themselves in various forms, sharing their ice cream recipes, great random information like old timers sharing best rock/fossil hunting sites in rural arizona that's been lost to the sands of time, etc and being excited to give and receive in this new front. Usenet was kind of a shitshow but it was still interesting. The commodification, that everything had to be turned into an advertising space and collect user profiles, wasn't yet a big thing either. There was also a lot of fun jank like how easy it was just to change something like neopets/award?money=91 to money=999999 and just completely break everything and it wasn't Completely Seriously. The dotcom did a number on a lot of upstart and zanier elements of the time where everyone was throwing anything and everything to the wall (cuecats, hypnospace, whatver) but it hadn't really changed much in the digital sphere yet. More soul-laid-bare places like geocities/angelfire/even usenet started to die, people started to become more jaded, cynical, and reserved resulting from experiences engaging with online and increasing difficulty of being able to express otherwise but there was still some of that; but I would say the end of 90s-internet died around 2003. I can't put my finger on exactly why but it feels about right. Others mentioned but rise of Google consolidating a lot of the web around it, Gmail, MySpace, death of un-monetizable services like IRC/usenet/free pages, etc started around this time and in place started seeing more tech corp consolidation around services that could be monetized. 2003-2008 or so was more gradual changes but kind of all felt about the same. There was no major abrupt break points, ut I would say 2008+ onward was probably the next big shift with the end of the oughts internet with rise of smartphones, sites and websites developing around that, increased commodification and consolidation around big centralized social media and tech corps designed to sling as many ads and collect data as possible, and has pretty much remained even to where we today I've said it before but I found HSO a rather bittersweet depressing game after the twist happened. It's like you're going back to your old town's stomping grounds after being gone for decades; seeing the hollowed out places you used to hang and visit, wondering whatever happened to Timmy, Zane, X, Y wistfully wondering where they're at with their lives now -- hopefully doing well, do they even remember when we used to make coolpunk jokes??. 'Granny and I used to play by the creek and catch tadpoles and she'd make us ice cream after -- now it's a golf course /That old bowling alley is now a condo plex, not that anyone here now would know that', etc type. It's a mausoleum to a time past and never to be recovered. The era of the excitement of sharing and laying out the soul and feelings in a completely sincere way is over; all we can do is document it.
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 09:51 |
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It's kind of funny how the best word I can use to describe this weird simulacrum of 90's internet is "genuine." As an enforcer, you can see some cynical threads behind the scenes, but I really found myself caring about the characters. Even though it's been a long time since I was a teenager, when I saw Tim's site and the stuff he was getting up to, I could totally imagine my teenage self thinking that T1MAGEDDON was the coolest dude in the world. Rebe Ruth Pin isn't a real person, but that doesn't stop me from hoping that she got through Y2K alright.
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 10:24 |
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All of this is spot on. I was barely a teenager during that pre-2003 period, and the internet was a wild place of open honesty. It was overwhelmingly optimistic and I met people off there all the time without incident (usenet groups were good for group meet-ups).
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 14:14 |
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Xaris posted:The one remarkable thing that HSO nailed was that it wasn't wacky zany "hey remember da 90s? lol pogs lol" nostalgia-bait, it wasn't a bunch of Family Guy-tier non-sequitor bullshit. It was a genuinely good game that had really unique character and heart to it such that even someone who didn't grow up at the time could still get into it. But it still absolutely captured the spirit of early internet and someone who didn't grow up with that may not quite fully appreciate it but it still stands on it's own. The way I describe HSO to friends is that it's my version of the modern "classic" boomer diner, with chrome and red neon and coca cola signs and checkered floors. It's a thermonuclear nostalgia bomb that feels right, even if the sum of the parts never really existed. I know the Millenium Anthem, as used in HSO, is about Rebe Ruth Pin's family/church being let down by the failed Y2K apocalypse, but to me it's always resonated differently. As a kid who came of age in the 90s watching Computer Chronicles and Next Step and Beyond 2000, watching the promise of the old, weird, "heart laid bare" internet as you call it turn into today's homogenized, hypercapitalist, algorithmic content pipe has been kind of depressing. So for me, the year 2000 and beyond have let me down. I think HSO perfectly recreates that idealized weird internet time that maybe never even really existed how I "remember" it.
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 19:24 |
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ALFbrot posted:I think HSO perfectly recreates that idealized weird internet time that maybe never even really existed how I "remember" it. In any case, HSO definitely captured what I, imaginary or otherwise, think of what I picture 90s-internet. This is probably more my headcanon imagination, but one thing I also liked about HSO was that the 'Mindcrash' wasn't just what it was itself: it also represented a fundamental crash in the collective internet psyche. I doubt that was intentional though. Xaris fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Apr 25, 2022 |
# ? Apr 25, 2022 19:43 |
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If you like time capsules of the Internet, there's an old text adventure called Cosmoserve which has some typing to walk around and do things but is largely played in a simulated DOS prompt and quasi-Compuserve interface. You can play it in your browser (is there even an Adventure Game Toolkit implementation for 64-bit computers?) here. It's a bit futuristic, with the last bit played in a VR suit, but the rest is very how it was.
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 20:03 |
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Zerilan posted:Normality? Yes! That's exactly the game I was trying to think of. You can probably see why too.
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# ? Apr 25, 2022 20:15 |
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Xaris posted:I've said it before but I found HSO a rather bittersweet depressing game after the twist happened. It's like you're going back to your old town's stomping grounds after being gone for decades; seeing the hollowed out places you used to hang and visit, wondering whatever happened to Timmy, Zane, X, Y wistfully wondering where they're at with their lives now -- hopefully doing well, do they even remember when we used to make coolpunk jokes??. 'Granny and I used to play by the creek and catch tadpoles and she'd make us ice cream after -- now it's a golf course /That old bowling alley is now a condo plex, not that anyone here now would know that', etc type. It's a mausoleum to a time past and never to be recovered. The era of the excitement of sharing and laying out the soul and feelings in a completely sincere way is over; all we can do is document it. One of my pet peeves is that 'nostalgia' has been shifted from "a bittersweet homesickness for a time that's gone and won't return" to "childhood familiarity".
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# ? Apr 30, 2022 08:00 |
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The_Doctor posted:The future of Hypnospace... is soon. Holy poo poo, holy poo poo. I was not expecting a revenge arc, and it would be extremely justified since I purposefully didn't ban the guy since reporting hime was a reliable source of hypnobucks making me personally responsible for what happened to him.
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# ? May 1, 2022 09:20 |
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Slayes X demo is out, drat I feel awesome after running through it. 2/5 on secrets, will have to go through once more to see if I can find em
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# ? Jun 13, 2022 18:55 |
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beggar posted:Slayes X demo is out, drat I feel awesome after running through it. 2/5 on secrets, will have to go through once more to see if I can find em Oh poo poo, thanks for the heads up!
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# ? Jun 13, 2022 20:08 |
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Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Here's the link! The demo will be up until Monday! https://t.co/OOHvRMdoVm Little intro video here: https://twitter.com/Zane_Rocks_36/status/1536838473411399686 We also just updated it with new features/adjustments/fixes so if you played earlier in the week give it another shot.
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# ? Jun 17, 2022 19:59 |
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very excited for these. Not really expecting dreamsettler till 2024 but i can't wait to get my hands on Slayers X.
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# ? Nov 22, 2022 23:59 |
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We just need confidence and patience
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# ? Nov 23, 2022 01:00 |
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Ready to Shave is going on my wedding playlist and nobody can stop me
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 00:32 |
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i'd give my left leg to see that
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 01:39 |
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Chowder man ended up in the playlist at a friend's wedding, the music started pretty normal but as the night went on, it trended towards the weird.
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 05:26 |
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I played ready to shave at my wedding reception. no regrets
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 09:49 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftEz-m0kEWA
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 17:53 |
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I played this game roughly a year ago on the xbox and never knew it was a goon game and had so much love here. It did take me wayyyyyy back and I hope to see more "early internet" video games.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 20:50 |
Gaspy Conana posted:Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Here's the link! The demo will be up until Monday! https://t.co/OOHvRMdoVm gently caress yeah
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 13:20 |
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Hope it's okay to bump this, surprised no one's mentioned yet that Slayers X is coming out June 1st. It is still perfect. Also I swore there was a This Profile Is Protected By Beef Shield Pro gang tag but I must be misremembering. That would be neat.
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