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Who will win the federal Election This poll is closed. |
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48 | 42.48% |
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29 | 25.66% |
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3 | 2.65% |
| Liberal Minority |
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12 | 10.62% |
| UAP Majoirty |
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21 | 18.58% |
| Total: | 113 votes | ||
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shame, it would have been funny to see indignant journalists asking labor if they felt shame for implying morrisons very private and very real religiosity was political campaigning
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Mr Albanese, How many nails did it take to nail Jesus to the cross?
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Apr 15, 2022 06:18
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Anidav posted:Morrison calls ALP campaign offering them an Easter truce on campaigning.
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Apr 15, 2022 08:33
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Lining up for the Friendlyjordies show in Melbourne right now. Hope I don’t regret it.
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Apr 15, 2022 08:39
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Bargearse posted:Lining up for the Friendlyjordies show in Melbourne right now. Hope I don’t regret it. The show will be great but you'll still want to punch him in the face immediately, during and after.
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Apr 15, 2022 09:07
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Anidav posted:Morrison calls ALP campaign offering them an Easter truce on campaigning. ScoMo: Hey, look over there! Albo: [comically turns around and falls over on a banana peel]
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Apr 15, 2022 09:11
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The show really educated me, to the fact that jordies believes that Caesar is actually a communist hero.
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Apr 15, 2022 09:17
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I think lying in church is generally frowned upon but I guess he's one of those people who ignores all the "message" stuff and uses it as an excuse to do what he wants anyway
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Apr 15, 2022 09:28
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So long as he didn't get up to any funky prayer room business with press gallery
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Apr 15, 2022 09:45
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Anidav posted:The show really educated me, to the fact that jordies believes that Caesar is actually a communist hero. If it’s at least funny I’ll give it a pass. Show hasn’t started yet, still have time to bail.
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Apr 15, 2022 09:50
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Anidav posted:The show really educated me, to the fact that jordies believes that Caesar is actually a communist hero. if you conveniently ignore rome being a slave economy there’s a tenuous technical argument you could make that the early populares were proto-socialists but caesar didn’t really do anything along those lines
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Apr 15, 2022 09:53
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Caesar was the first populist, he's basically the Roman Trump.
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Apr 15, 2022 10:01
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birdstrike posted:if you conveniently ignore rome being a slave economy there’s a tenuous technical argument you could make that the early populares were proto-socialists but caesar didn’t really do anything along those lines He told the landlords to get hosed
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Apr 15, 2022 10:55
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Back from the show. It was funny, but yeah he takes some massive liberties with Roman history.
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Apr 15, 2022 15:18
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quote:“We’ll turn boats back. Turning boats back means that you don’t need offshore detention,” Albanese told reporters in Cessnock on Thursday. Anthony Albanese of The Labor "Left" Faction 
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Apr 15, 2022 15:28
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Bargearse posted:Back from the show. It was funny, but yeah he takes some massive liberties with Roman history. White people do be like that
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Apr 15, 2022 16:33
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Albo is toast it's over
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Apr 16, 2022 01:17
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Vortress Fictoria
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Apr 16, 2022 01:25
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hambeet posted:Voretress Fictoria
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Apr 16, 2022 01:35
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JBP posted:Albo is toast it's over I think he was always toast if we're being honest with ourselves. Morrison actually isn't that overwhelmingly unpopular based on polling. jeffreyw fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Apr 16, 2022 |
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Apr 16, 2022 01:44
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rudd was more popular in 2013 this far out from the election than morrison is at the moment
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Apr 16, 2022 02:52
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lih posted:rudd was more popular in 2013 this far out from the election than morrison is at the moment Rudd also had the issue of Federal Labor knifing two leaders in only a couple of years and giving the public reason to vote in the Liberals for stability. Albanese isn't more popular or well liked than Morrison in an election primarily about Morrison. Morrison is unpopular but isn't terminally unpopular.
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Apr 16, 2022 03:03
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morrison only being moderately unpopular, not overwhelmingly unpopular, is not some sign that labor is doomed and always was lol this isn't 2019 where morrison was always significantly more popular than shorten, even according to the polls which we know were skewed to labor lih fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Apr 16, 2022 |
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Apr 16, 2022 03:09
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https://twitter.com/keen_poster/status/1515151055700770818?s=20&t=CWf1xuGQngORke6PWrDbrw
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Apr 16, 2022 03:16
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lih posted:morrison only being moderately unpopular, not overwhelmingly unpopular, is not some sign that labor is doomed and always was lol I can only hope you are right but I do not think Labor's uninspiring small target strategy works particularly well when 3/4 of the media has Morrison's back. Preferred two party for the Liberals is trending up and Morrison's approval rating appears to be ticking upwards while Albanese's approval rating is ticking downwards. And a lot of the opposition, like the Teals, will still give them enough to form a minority government if it ever comes to that.
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Apr 16, 2022 03:22
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My theory was that they were going to dump Morrison just before calling an election, ask Australia to give them another chance, and ride it out to a potentially ugly victory, purely on how many people seemed to view him unfavourably. I'm shocked that it seems like Labor's still fumbling it badly - though, in fairness, any fumble on their side is going to be blown up by our media.
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Apr 16, 2022 03:25
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They’re also offering almost no policies of consequence except for a federal ICAC so it’s not like there’s a lot of big positive stuff to attract coverage - of course because they are assuming that whatever they do, the negative Murdoch blowback will be worse than whatever positive attention they get. But the net result is death one inch at a time. Edit: I mean my priorities are probably shared by a lot of progressive Australians and they are something like 1) serious action on climate change 2) economic opportunity for this and future generations, including actually functional education, research and VET sectors and transitioning away from being a petrostate 3) greater economic and social inclusion and equity, especially helping Australia’s most disadvantaged. And what are the ALP offering? Basically as soon as they supported the stage 3 tax cuts and dropped the commitment to raising the dole I was done with them. The stage 3 cuts will cost something like $15b/year ultimately and almost entirely benefit a single digit percentage of the population, while all of Newstart costs like $5b/year? It’s crazy that you can support the tax cuts over the dole, as even from an economic stimulus perspective every dollar of the dole increase would go straight back into the economy and domestic demand, while a shitload of the tax cut will either be parked somewhere illiquid or go overseas into offshore investments. It both makes no sense and is Bad unless priority uno is supporting the rich. The fact that the ALP are wedged to this extent makes them pointless except on the “less evil” meter - which isn’t nothing but is only relevant if they actually win. Blamestorm fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Apr 16, 2022 |
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Apr 16, 2022 03:44
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This doom posting is ridiculous. Corruption is one of the biggest issues in this campaign and Albo running on an ICAC is one of the few topics Murdoc can't (although they try) successfully run a fear campaign on. So of course its going to be the big ticket thing he runs on. Everyone knew the polls would tighten going into an election, but unless something incredible happens the current polling is terminal for Morrison and we will have a labor government you can moan about being lesser evil than the party that wants to ban trans kids from school and pro-corruption.
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Apr 16, 2022 03:58
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Ranter posted:Anthony Albanese of The Labor "Left" Faction Traditionally socialists have been quite xenophobic and anti immigration due to the pressures it puts on worker wages. So I don't quite see the "Left" quotes meaningfully? You can totally be a socialist and a racist shitheel, the two are not mutually exclusive at all. Having said that, gently caress Albo, vote Greens.
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Apr 16, 2022 04:05
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Don’t get me wrong, I sure hope so. I can also foresee they are going to get ripped apart from both sides as all the poo poo the LNP has baked in (climate change resistance, breaking the uni sector, massive structural revenue holes due to the tax cuts) starts to really hit. And as they won’t have run on anything they won’t have a “mandate”.
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Apr 16, 2022 04:06
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jeffreyw posted:I can only hope you are right but I do not think Labor's uninspiring small target strategy works particularly well when 3/4 of the media has Morrison's back. Preferred two party for the Liberals is trending up and Morrison's approval rating appears to be ticking upwards while Albanese's approval rating is ticking downwards. And a lot of the opposition, like the Teals, will still give them enough to form a minority government if it ever comes to that. my point is that albanese being a poor campaigner is not proof labor are & were always doomed, it's just opened a 'this is how labor can still throw this' scenario. a lot of the teals are running to the left of labor on a bunch of issues & would find it much easier to negotiate with labor given shared priorities. we're not likely to see more than one or two new ones anyway. don't see any way that a liberal + teals minority government wouldn't be a dysfunctional mess given how mad the dominant right of the liberals would be. especially since they'd likely be reliant on one nation to pass legislation in the senate too don't even think a small target strategy is necessarily bad but they are doing a pretty poor job of executing it, they're just terrible at tactics (similar problem to last time really) and seemingly always on the defense pre-emptively. i think albanese is disappointing in just about every way but the doomposting here is getting ridiculous - yes, labor could still lose this but it's far from guaranteed and certainly wasn't always going to be the case lih fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Apr 16, 2022 |
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Apr 16, 2022 04:10
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It's better to just do everything you can while still expecting to lose the way of the left
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Apr 16, 2022 04:46
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Pleasant Friend posted:This doom posting is ridiculous. Corruption is one of the biggest issues in this campaign and Albo running on an ICAC is one of the few topics Murdoc can't (although they try) successfully run a fear campaign on. So of course its going to be the big ticket thing he runs on. my prediction is that a national integrity commission/federal ICAC will become the new carbon trading scheme: The Greens will introduce a bill for a federal ICAC that actually has teeth and it will get voted down by everyone else. Labor will introduce a National Integrity Commission that will be piss weak and not solve anything, The Greens will vote against it, and so will the Libs, so then we have to put up with a decade of "the Greens don't want an anti corruption commission"
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Apr 16, 2022 04:48
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jeffreyw posted:Rudd also had the issue of Federal Labor knifing two leaders in only a couple of years and giving the public reason to vote in the Liberals for stability. Albanese isn't more popular or well liked than Morrison in an election primarily about Morrison. Morrison is unpopular but isn't terminally unpopular. Preferred prime minister has never been reflected in the actual vote and that isn't about to start happening now no matter how much the media decides it's about "personality" (Also Morrison's preferred PM ranking is absolutely dire anyway)
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Apr 16, 2022 04:52
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GoldStandardConure posted:my prediction is that a national integrity commission/federal ICAC will become the new carbon trading scheme: The Greens will introduce a bill for a federal ICAC that actually has teeth and it will get voted down by everyone else. Labor will introduce a National Integrity Commission that will be piss weak and not solve anything, The Greens will vote against it, and so will the Libs, so then we have to put up with a decade of "the Greens don't want an anti corruption commission" a good icac bill already passed the senate last year, supported by labor/greens/crossbench. idk why you would expect this of all things to suddenly be the flashpoint of greens/labor tensions under a labor government the greens' demands for any labor icac bill, in a statement today, are: "able to hold public hearings, act on anonymous tip-offs and investigate historical matters" and these are already all labor policy. if labor wanted a piss weak useless one or thought it was politically expedient they would have just backed the liberals' bill
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Apr 16, 2022 04:59
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Labor can't speak ill of offshore detention because it tarnishes Rudd and makes it harder for him to return as PM
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Apr 16, 2022 05:07
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imo the only questio mark left in this election is if somebody in labor or the labor party itself gets called a groomer before its over in which case i win $50
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Apr 16, 2022 05:25
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Just put a hundred on SCOMO
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Apr 16, 2022 06:53
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jeffreyw posted:Rudd also had the issue of Federal Labor knifing two leaders in only a couple of years and giving the public reason to vote in the Liberals for stability. Albanese isn't more popular or well liked than Morrison in an election primarily about Morrison. Morrison is unpopular but isn't terminally unpopular. wish he was just terminal tbh
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Apr 16, 2022 07:51
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how can anyone actually follow the election campaign right now? it's literally a bunch of journos huffing their own farts, you could just insert Leader X makes blunder Y, how will the recover and will their opposition capitalise on this?? and it's exactly the loving same would be nice to see some of the heat the ALP has received over the last week be applied to the coalition in the last 3 years, jesus loving christ
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