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Dreylad posted:Canadians and Australians were both brought over to support the BEF. Allied naval dominance probably means that even if the Germans wanted to bring colonial troops back to Europe, they couldn't. They used colonial troops in their colonies, but I think that's about it.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Which is still less stupid than how the Kings of Hanover became Kings of England in the first place. Monarchy is loving stupid By act of parliament? Also because no Catholics plz
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 07:26 |
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The best king was Bernadotte, a French Republican who became king of Sweden. He had to hide a tattoo on his chest that said "death to all kings"
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vyelkin posted:Allied naval dominance probably means that even if the Germans wanted to bring colonial troops back to Europe, they couldn't. They used colonial troops in their colonies, but I think that's about it. Germany, cursed to always and forever be a second rate power because they can't boat good
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Endman posted:Germany, cursed to always and forever be a second rate power because they can't boat good otoh their navy helped trigger a socialist revolution after ww1 so it's impossible to say if it's good or bad
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 07:47 |
exmachina posted:The best king was Bernadotte, a French Republican who became king of Sweden. He had to hide a tattoo on his chest that said "death to all kings" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Square At least king Haakon VII of Norway used his power to tell the nazis to go to hell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon_VII_of_Norway#Resistance_during_World_War_II
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# ? Apr 14, 2022 09:35 |
Can someone explain to me what happened during the spanish civil war? And some book recommendations about it? It's hard to find anything that doesn't immediately descend into blaming the communist or anarchist factions for losing the war without any context.
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# ? Apr 16, 2022 12:41 |
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exmachina posted:The best king was Bernadotte, a French Republican who became king of Sweden. He had to hide a tattoo on his chest that said "death to all kings"
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# ? Apr 16, 2022 12:49 |
When Norway voted to abolish nobility Bernadotte threatened to veto it. He wanted to suspend the norwegian constitution, a move so despotic that even the russian tsar told him not to do it. The best thing you could say about Bernadotte as king was that he, unlike other swedish kings, avoided a war with Russia.
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# ? Apr 16, 2022 13:44 |
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his tattoo is most likely fake though, first mentioned in a Parisian play as a plot point but no evidence of it anywhere else (although the tattoo from the play got repeated in written histories after the fact). But we do have published letters from him published in English and french papers where he states: “As a republican by principle and conviction, I will unto my death fight all royalists”. That is 100% real. Falukorv has issued a correction as of 15:09 on Apr 16, 2022 |
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Bernadotte: I will not give up one single inch of-- [He pulls a card from his pocket, looks at it, it says YOU ARE KING OF SWEDEN on it, he puts it back] Bernadotte: SWEDISH territory!!!
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someone like that appointing a successor makes him worse than louis xiv
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# ? Apr 16, 2022 17:03 |
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I'm going to finish listening to the dumb Revolutions podcast, but god, liberalism does things to your brain. I have no idea about the Kronstadt rebellion against the USSR, but how do you go from the facts as reported:
That there definitely wasn't any foreign meddling because the UK was reopening trade relations? Definitely not something that happens in the real world, trading with a country you try to regime change.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 11:44 |
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What idolizing Lafayette does to a mf
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 12:35 |
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Is the Revolutions podcast terrible lib poo poo or something?
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 13:20 |
it's pretty good but mike duncan is succumbing to brain worms big time
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 13:50 |
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exmachina posted:The best king was Bernadotte, a French Republican who became king of Sweden. He had to hide a tattoo on his chest that said "death to all kings" He did eventually die so it's not like he abandoned all his principles entirely
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Endman posted:Is the Revolutions podcast terrible lib poo poo or something? short answer is yes
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Lord of Pie posted:He did eventually die so it's not like he abandoned all his principles entirely
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Endman posted:Is the Revolutions podcast terrible lib poo poo or something? Mike Duncan got away with it for years because he always covered revolutions in feudal societies he's finally stepped up to the big boys club and his analysis is found wanting John Charity Spring posted:short answer is yes
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Endman posted:Is the Revolutions podcast terrible lib poo poo or something? I feel he gives a pretty good overview of what happens and who did what, but then has pretty terrible opinions about it.
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genericnick posted:I'm going to finish listening to the dumb Revolutions podcast, but god, liberalism does things to your brain. I have no idea about the Kronstadt rebellion against the USSR, but how do you go from the facts as reported: Literally hueing and crying over Kronstadt
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 16:29 |
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Revolutions seasons 4-9 are pretty good! Throughout them Mike gives a decent overview, and remains sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Mike's cold war brain kicks in during the Russian revolution. The extent to which he's willing to interpret the reds actions in bad faith is striking. Recently he's gone full animal farm and has stated the communists never intended to decentralize power. He doesn't mention the communist's line that doing so was political (and literal) suicide.
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Dreddout posted:Revolutions seasons 4-9 are pretty good! Throughout them Mike gives a decent overview, and remains sympathetic to the revolutionaries. How true is stuff like factories still being run under war conditions and complaints along those lines that Duncan cited as contributing to the rebellion? Do those get solved by the NEP?
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Dreddout posted:Revolutions seasons 4-9 are pretty good! Throughout them Mike gives a decent overview, and remains sympathetic to the revolutionaries. This is disappointing, but not really unexpected. Interpreting the Russian revolution in bad faith is one of the core pillars of "white dude who's into history" culture. e: also lmao I didn't realise he just wrote a book on how Lafayette was the best dude ever
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genericnick posted:I feel he gives a pretty good overview of what happens and who did what, but then has pretty terrible opinions about it. Duncan: kornilov was just misunderstood and trying to restore democracy, his aides were only joking about having kerensky killed. also western political leaders actually supported the Bolsheviks more than the whites, who they armed to kill the reds. i am very smart
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E: not exactly what I meant to post
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51,000 people were killed or sustained wounds in a mass shooting outside of the town of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Uniformed federal officials attempted to apprehend members of a paramilitary organization that had been robbing local farms and businesses and a large-scale shootout ensued.
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Not So Fast posted:How true is stuff like factories still being run under war conditions and complaints along those lines that Duncan cited as contributing to the rebellion? Do those get solved by the NEP? Couldn't tell you. What I do know is that widespread suffering in the post-civilwar USSR was due to said civil war and not the mean old Bolsheviks deciding to be, and I quote Mike, "diabolical"
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Fly Molo posted:Duncan: kornilov was just misunderstood and trying to restore democracy, his aides were only joking about having kerensky killed. also western political leaders actually supported the Bolsheviks more than the whites, who they armed to kill the reds. i am very smart I've seen someone else mention this take from Duncan earlier in the thread and it's so baffling that I actually want to hear him say this. Anybody know which episode this was from?
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I've seen someone else mention this take from Duncan earlier in the thread and it's so baffling that I actually want to hear him say this. Anybody know which episode this was from? I dunno about the part about Kornilov, but the other thing: quote:around 32:00 of episode 10.84 - The End of the World
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vyelkin posted:This is an important thing to remember any time you're talking about borders and borderlands in Eastern Europe. Up until 1945, there were basically no homogeneous nation-states in the region. Long periods of rule within the borders of a few large, contiguous empires with porous borders, much of which happened before the advent of modern nationalism, had led to extremely high levels of inter-ethnic mixing and migration throughout the entire region, and especially in cities. There was a large Jewish population throughout what's now Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, and Lithuania, and even if you only focus on the ethnic groups that today have nation-states to call their own, the spread of these groups across modern boundaries was immense. Quoted for future reference, thank you
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady/status/1516462361443540999
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quote:The Yuin also had a whale fishery at Boydtown, just south of Eden, where the people adopted the European tools and boats into a tradition of hunting whales that had been operating for hundreds, possibly thousands, of years. Ritualised interaction with killer whales encouraged the mammals to herd larger whales into the harbour, where they would be driven into shallow water and harvested by the Yuin, who would then share the feast, not just with neighbouring clans, but with the killer whales themselves, who would receive the tongue.
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granted we did try to commit a genocide against whales but sea shanties are fun ok
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I've seen someone else mention this take from Duncan earlier in the thread and it's so baffling that I actually want to hear him say this. Anybody know which episode this was from? the other part (kornilov) was in episode 10.70. I don’t have a transcript handy, but a brief summary: -kornilov was a patriot who loved russia, not some right-wing psycho. very favorable portrayal. -the whole thing was just a big miscommunication with yakety sax playing in the background, not an attempted right-wing coup. -sure an aide to kornilov said they’d seize power and off kerensky once he wasn’t useful any more, but that doesn’t seem likely and the aide was probably just talking poo poo -kornilov didn’t really have his heart in it and his forces just kind of stopped. barely any mention of the Bolsheviks’ role in stopping his advance on St. Petersburg, they’re just a footnote it’s just weird. like a switch flipped at episode ~50 and he went from relatively sympathetic portrayal of the bolsheviks to just ignoring all their victories and successes and ragging on them 24/7. another high point was when said they were basically just as antisemitic as any other side in the russian civil war, that was episode 10.87 iirc
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Some Guy TT posted:granted we did try to commit a genocide against whales but sea shanties are fun ok I do like sugar, and tea, and rum
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I do like sugar, and tea, and rum if you think about it, gannon was trying to stop a monarchy from enacting the triangular trade
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i say swears online posted:if you think about it, gannon was trying to stop a monarchy from enacting the triangular trade Gannon was enacting desert power against an oppressive imperium that only wanted to suck the land dry
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so apparently both Kaiser Wilhelm and Tsar Nicholas were really into chopping wood. once they were rendered politically irrelevant. how about King George? He liked chopping wood or what?
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