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Raine posted:they have some of the heaviest armor in the game. also you can run past that dude unless you're trying to farm him I've tried killing his buddies then going in with a summon, but he smokes all my summons in seconds... then smokes me too.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:Please give me some tips for killing Prelates in Mountaintops of the Giants. These are the fat fire enemies with the burning, uh, bowl thing on their head. Spam magic arrows with your mimic, or just ride torrent. You don't have to fight. Hit da bricks. Real winners quit. History Comes Inside! posted:Apparently you can’t get this sword if you’ve killed the fire giant already so that’s a non-starter Ok then definitely do the black knife Tiche and lots of running strat. Also, I've seen a ton of people do a bow with barrage ash of war and they just Legolas it while their ash holds aggro.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Hi again I got over my armour issues and made it to the end of the game, now what am I meant to do when the Elden Beast decides to go on vacation to the far end of the universe and just throw arcs of bullshit that move at five times the speed of light at me while I glacially waddle back towards it, tia. Elden Beast does almost entirely holy damage so wear Haligdrake Talisman +2, Pearldrake Talisman +2, and use a holy resistance buff. Lord's Divine Fortification is the best, but if you can't cast it just bring some holyproof livers and chow down. You can easily get up to 75% damage reduction and just facetank everything while you close distance.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:I've tried killing his buddies then going in with a summon, but he smokes all my summons in seconds... then smokes me too. if all else fails try using the L2+R1 of the Death's Poker. that's how i farmed that specific prelate
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Finally at the end of the game, haven't beaten Elden Beast yet but I have to say, after the fun fight designs that are Malenia, Hoarah Loux, and Radagon; Beast is one of the most annoying and poorly designed fights in the game.
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Apr 18, 2022 00:14
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really hope someone eventually gets From to straightforwardly explain why Torrent was omitted from that fight, it's such an obvious and boneheaded move
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Apr 18, 2022 00:20
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Torrent would kind of make the Beast a pretty easy fight. Now he’s just kind of annoying which isn’t a good direction to go but I can understand the process
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satanic splash-back posted:If you think this game is tuned to be 100% beatable solo by an average player then you don't understand how bad the average "gamer" is at everything It's probably just semantics over what I/you mean by "tuned". In my mind the bosses are tuned for solo play because they have attacks that are all avoidable through difficult execution, and also attack windows that are just wide enough to get a few attacks in. IMO if they were "tuned" for summons or coop then they wouldn't be designed this way, they'd have designed them to expect the bosses aggro to be split regularly, or for someone to be ranking while the other does damage, etc.
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my favorite part about the elden beast fight is watching streamers be locked on while the pillar of death attack is happening, their camera comically focused to the sky, and dying. then they don't know how they died and repeat this mistake
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Raine posted:my favorite part about the elden beast fight is watching streamers be locked on while the pillar of death attack is happening, their camera comically focused to the sky, and dying. then they don't know how they died and repeat this mistake Yeah, honestly locking in is almost always a bad idea for large bosses
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Apr 18, 2022 00:32
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I can't stress enough that if you struggle with the game at all upgrade black knife Tiche. "But I don't have the mind/FP to summon black knife Tiche. She costs 132 FP!" you might say. Well, good news, there's a tear for your physick flask that makes everything cost 0 fp, so even if you have a mind of 1 you can still summon Tiche. Ghost Glovewort for upgrading is all over the place in catacombs and cemeteries and the underworld. Dump everything into Tiche. She is amazing if you need someone to hold aggro and tank hits for you because you're slow or not the best at evasion/parrying. And if you want to be a little cheaty magoo, Seluvis has a puppet that spams sleep arrows which is absolutely incredible if you're kinda clumsy and have a hard time cycling flasks and weapons in the heat of battle. Pretty much everything can take sleep damage, and if they don't they at least get staggered by it. So you can buy yourself 30 seconds of respite where you get a free stagger attack, or a 2 second punish window. Mimic Tear, Sleepy Puppet, and Tiche are all god tier. If you're a mage, a good option is also Cleanrot Knight Finlay, who does excessive faith damage which you probably can't do, and so she makes a great companion. Especially in catacombs bosses and Liurnia where everything is extremely weak to faith attacks.
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Raine posted:my favorite part about the elden beast fight is watching streamers be locked on while the pillar of death attack is happening, their camera comically focused to the sky, and dying. then they don't know how they died and repeat this mistake Is that the golden laser beam that vertically comes down and smashes me dead sometimes when I’m right up in his business, with no visible tell that anything is coming because my screen is just the boss filling the whole thing and suddenly I explode? Or is there another bullshit golden something that’ll kill me in a later phase I can look forward to?
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jisforjosh posted:Yeah, honestly locking in is almost always a bad idea for large bosses My favorite is the Ulcerated Tree Spirit, which moves at lightning speed in a writhing motion so if you lock on you might as well have your TV in a centrifuge while you blink rapidly.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Is that the golden laser beam that vertically comes down and smashes me dead sometimes when I’m right up in his business, with no visible tell that anything is coming because my screen is just the boss filling the whole thing and suddenly I explode? it's the one where you gotta parkour over closing golden rings to get outta the death circle
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Raine posted:it's the one where you gotta parkour over closing golden rings to get outta the death circle Oh I just assumed those rings were exploding when they go to the centre and I was never far enough away to avoid the aoe after a successful jump. I’ve never noticed a pillar of nonsense in the middle of them.
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Apr 18, 2022 00:41
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I mean that attack seems simple to dodge? I saw a ring and my first instinct was to not be in it
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The Anime Liker posted:My favorite is the Ulcerated Tree Spirit, which moves at lightning speed in a writhing motion so if you lock on you might as well have your TV in a centrifuge while you blink rapidly. the absolute worst enemy in the game to lock on to are the loving dragonflies their ai is broken somehow and sometimes they'll comically zip around in every direction at a thousand miles per hour one time i just stood still while locked on and had my wife come and look probably the closest i've come to getting whiplash through a television
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well i think the elden beast and astel had a baby
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I like the Elden Beast fight a lot, it's visually and thematically gorgeous and I didn't find it too hard, but then, I'd deliberately set up the Mimic to tank and cast spells to easily draw aggro so that when the bullet hell sun comes out I can just focus on booking it.
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i think astel and the elden beast, and the other astel, all had a baby together and it's going to be the elizabeth the mushroom lady of the first dlc
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History Comes Inside! posted:Is that the golden laser beam that vertically comes down and smashes me dead sometimes when I’m right up in his business, with no visible tell that anything is coming because my screen is just the boss filling the whole thing and suddenly I explode? The big one to watch for is a thigh-high circle that's closing in on you. Run outward, away from the center of the ring. Jump over the ring. Keep running because it's now going to explode outward from the center. Jump that, too, if you didn't run far enough. You can roll the sword hits, jump the ring, and run from everything else. He's basically a bigger Placidussax. He's using cheap AOE attacks to keep melee fighters away. Either use a meme build to kill him faster than he kills you, Legolas him with ranged spam, or learn which attacks mean jump, roll, or run. If you're doing melee, 100% use Tiche, and EB's lightning requires careful evasive running, the ring is running away jumping, and the sword is rolling. After his attack, glue yourself to a buttcheek and go hog wild until he starts the next attack. "Don't get greedy" and all that.
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elden beast should have had a mechanic where the boss full heals upon hitting 5% HP, then a cutscene plays where torrent falls from the sky and finishes it off. then you can ride around the empty boss arena on your horse.
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Apr 18, 2022 00:48
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torrent should have been the final boss,
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Torrent should have died trying to jump across the bridge on the way to the last boss
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final boss should have been malenia riding a scarlet rot runebear
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Here’s a brain teaser for the thread. If Farum Azula is unstuck in time, is it before or after the rest of the Lands Between? The fallen ruins suggest after, but again, that’s from the perspective of Land Between time and not Farum Azula time. Consider if Placidusax even exists in the main timeline as well as the implications on Makekith.
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Well I assumed that all of the ruins were in the lands between because it’s crumbling. I would guess before, or during, but i have no idea.
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Megasabin posted:It’s space. Astel came on a meteor like the falling star beast. It seems like a lot of the game can be broken up into two categories 1) there’s the stuff that has no influence behind it and 2) stuff that has influence behind it Sorceries are magic that came from a minerals that fell from space. It is atheistic and has no will behind it other than the end-user. Incantations are religious magic powered by a god, And each God seems to have an agenda Astel and the Elden beast are alike in that they are monsters who came to earth from outer space. The difference is that Astel does not seem to have much purpose other than to exist survive and kill. Elden beast on the other hand wants to project it’s influence on the planet. The overarching theme seems to be about control. The outer gods are all colonizers, coming to the land between to colonize and control others. There is a huge ongoing motif across the game about puppets, a master and slave relationship. Many of the races you see in the game are created in order to be subservient. Many of the Npcs are having an identity crisis because they are born in order to be subservient to someone else or raised in order to have their existence revolve around someone else
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Was Magic in dark souls ever separated into sorceries/incantations?
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The baby astel is the starscourge beast. Like actually, I think
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Blue Raider posted:Here’s a brain teaser for the thread. You can see Faram Azula off in the distance from the isolated divine tower, so unless that place is also unstuck in time I think it's just physically out there, no time weirdness beyond the actual heart of the storm where you fight Placidusax.. 
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Steve Yun posted:Was Magic in dark souls ever separated into sorceries/incantations? Yeah , unless I’m misunderstanding. Miyazaki also said that he originally wanted to make spells have more ‘types’ in Elden ring, other than sorceries and faith, but it became too convoluted, so they settled on having different categories within sorcery, like glintstone, or glintblade, or carian, etc.
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Steve Yun posted:Was Magic in dark souls ever separated into sorceries/incantations? Magic / Faith has been in every souls. And Faith has always been the ultimate jock power where you shove those magic nerds in a locker. Especially Demon's Souls and Elden Ring where a low level faith guy can just go ham in Latria/Liurnia and all those spooky wizards trying to freak you out with their dark powers just get obliterated by a Sunday school teacher. Bloodborne had Arcane and something else
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The Anime Liker posted:
Bloodtinge, which they seem to have merged together.
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bop bop perano posted:Yeah , unless I’m misunderstanding. Miyazaki also said that he originally wanted to make spells have more ‘types’ in Elden ring, other than sorceries and faith, but it became too convoluted, so they settled on having different categories within sorcery, like glintstone, or glintblade, or carian, etc. Elden Ring also has crossovers like the Radagon stuff like Law of Regression/Causality that require Faith and INT instead of one or the other, and the dragon and blood stuff that's Faith and Arcane, or beast which is Faith and strength, etc.
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suddenly remembering how the beastmen of farum azula are noted to be master potters but use them primarily as combat tools wait where did the jar warriors come from
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Oxxidation posted:suddenly remembering how the beastmen of farum azula are noted to be master potters but use them primarily as combat tools I watched a YouTube lore video that speculated their purpose is to bring bodies to the Erdtrees, because you see a lot of broken ones at the feet of the minor trees. That doesn’t speak to their source though.
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Oxxidation posted:suddenly remembering how the beastmen of farum azula are noted to be master potters but use them primarily as combat tools Jar Lore: The jars exist to gather up the blood and guts of the dead and then take that gore soup to the Erdtrees. That's why there's a zillion empty pots around the minor Erdtrees. They completed their missions. And after the shattering they kinda lost that motivation, so you ended up with Alexander gather up guts and realizing the warriors made him stronger and then he independently went in search of the guts of the toughest soldiers and warriors so he could have their power instead of the Erdtree. Extrapolating from that, the Farum Azula guys made incredible pottery, some kind of magic gave some pots life, whether it was Marika or EB or whoever, and they had a purpose to serve the greater will, and then a few just kinda went rogue and had independent thoughts like Al and Jar-Bairn. And of course there's the implication of The Great Jar where who knows how many people came to him to fight the three champions, all of whom are previously killed players, meaning there's an enormous jar who just sits in front of people getting murdered in 3 on 1 combat all day. The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Raine posted:the absolute worst enemy in the game to lock on to are the loving dragonflies they copied the ai from the bugs in monster hunter
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