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DeafNote posted:I regret to admit that I was way into Megatokyo as a dumb teen. I would recommend checking out Val & Isaac as well. It's a fun one.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 09:55 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:47 |
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Somewhere in with the rest of my books, in the printer paper boxes I used as moving boxes, I have the Megatokyo Volume 1 and the hardback CTRL+ALT+DEL volumes 1 and 2. Nowadays I use the PYF Comic thread to curate my web(and other)comic reading. RareAcumen posted:I would recommend checking out Val & Isaac as well. Wholey recommend the space lesbians comic, yes.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 10:03 |
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DeafNote posted:I regret to admit that I was way into Megatokyo as a dumb teen. It was pointed out in another thread that apparently in the 20+ years of Megatokyo's still-to-this-day-apparently-ongoing storyline, the narrative has only covered about 71 days worth of time and, to bring this back to dunking on Mr. Enter for a moment, still has not reached September 11th, 2001 in comic time, and in fact probably never will even if Fred Gallagher manages to continue updating it regularly until the day he dies.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 10:11 |
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I remember hanging out on the Megatokyo forms in the mid to late 2000s but even then hardly anyone seemed to give a poo poo about the comic itself. Almost everyone including me was just there to chat about anime or various other things. Anyway here are some people discussing Enter's trainwreck of a book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xllG8TE7meE Based on what goes on in there it seems like Enter's kink might actually be humiliation, which would certainly fit with how he's been acting on Twitter.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 10:31 |
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did somebody say webcomics?! RareAcumen posted:I would recommend checking out Val & Isaac as well. its good imo
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 10:41 |
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Annointed posted:That is the most beautiful cut I have ever seen. I'll get to Casino some other time. Scorsese is quickly being a name I am associating with high quality films that are worth the hours spent. Hell yeah, Casino is one of my all-time favorite films. It tells the true story of Lefty Rosenthal (Named Ace Rothstein in the movie for reasons) and the end of the mob's domination of Las Vegas. It's incredible and genuinely epic. Hot take but I've always liked Casino over Goodfellas personally. Check it out when you can. It's absolutely worth the 3 hours to watch. Augus posted:https://twitter.com/MrEnterOfficial/status/1515112258346668033?s=20&t=3CCVeTVlPwC2obVCoLOwGg God tier corn cob. You love to see it.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 11:37 |
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Jamie Faith posted:Hell yeah, Casino is one of my all-time favorite films. It tells the true story of Lefty Rosenthal (Named Ace Rothstein in the movie for reasons) and the end of the mob's domination of Las Vegas. It's incredible and genuinely epic. Hot take but I've always liked Casino over Goodfellas personally. Check it out when you can. It's absolutely worth the 3 hours to watch. Should watch that, got interested in Vegas history after visiting last year. The Mob Museum is really good!
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 12:04 |
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Bakeneko posted:I remember hanging out on the Megatokyo forms in the mid to late 2000s but even then hardly anyone seemed to give a poo poo about the comic itself. Almost everyone including me was just there to chat about anime or various other things. Considering the cast is either childlike adults or literal children, the idea of introducing his fetishes sounds horriying.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 14:41 |
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The Bee posted:Considering the cast is either childlike adults or literal children, the idea of introducing his fetishes sounds horriying. There's nothing explicitly sexual in there, I'm sure the hosts of that podcast would've mentioned if there was, but it does seem to have that... Dan Schneider-ish tone to it where the sitcom hijinks sometimes feel like they're a cover for something more questionable.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 15:11 |
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Dawgstar posted:It does bring to mind what I dimly recall The Wotch's art style looked like, which was basically crudely drawn fetish fuel. The 7th Guest posted:I read EGS when i was a younger enby in hatching, and I feel like a lot of it was probably the artist working out some identity issues through the comic, but they also were up for anything as far as commissions go, so there'd also be like, 'here's a donation art of a character that turns partly into an ant-furry'. but that was a loooong time ago (the 2000s basically). idk what it's like now, but i'm pretty sure a lot of it is just lengthy explanations of how the magic/technology works And yeah the Bad Webcomics Wiki is basically two degrees from just being ED in roasting people mean spiritly
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 16:25 |
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Mix. posted:there's a difference between making fun of a bad internet thing because you find it fascinating and enjoy seeing what's at the bottom of internet rabbit holes versus making fun of a bad internet thing because you hate the person/people who made it and want to tear into them directly/have an excuse to harass people, and some of the bad webcomics people fell a little too hard into that latter category in the later years imo I wish people could just enjoy the experience of looking at the strange (and admittedly pretty terrible) things that weird people do online without feeling like it is some kind of call to action. Posting isn't going to do anything for anyone ever.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 16:47 |
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its fine to lol at something stupid but you shouldnt make fun of their dog dying or post their address imo
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:04 |
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NorgLyle posted:One of my favorite former threads in the tabletop rpg forum went through this exact slide into something awfulness; people started out finding weird and dumb house rules and bizarre world building but slowly and surely changed over into 'look at how awful this author is someone should really email the website where they sell their pdfs and do something'. if you mean the F&F thread I can only think of like two times that happened and both were 'this guy is literally just selling thinly guised white supremacy RPG poo poo, it feels like that shouldn't be okay to sell' so this feels like a weird grudge to try to insert
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:04 |
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dont be a webdog is what im saying
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:06 |
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yea the webcomics laughing stuff got bad because it grew from 'lol this dude's comic sucks' to 'lol this dude's dog died, what a fuckin moron maybe the dog read his webcomic????' which...yea that's a bit fuckin much for 'this guy does a bad comic'.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:08 |
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NorgLyle posted:One of my favorite former threads in the tabletop rpg forum went through this exact slide into something awfulness; people started out finding weird and dumb house rules and bizarre world building but slowly and surely changed over into 'look at how awful this author is someone should really email the website where they sell their pdfs and do something'. "Making fun of something bad and then having some people tip over into an obsession about bad thing" seems to be a very SA thing to do. It's how KF got started, and I've seen a lot of threads go down that route (CAD thread, Gorgeous George etc)
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:09 |
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sexpig by night posted:if you mean the F&F thread I can only think of like two times that happened and both were 'this guy is literally just selling thinly guised white supremacy RPG poo poo, it feels like that shouldn't be okay to sell' so this feels like a weird grudge to try to insert They definitely mean grognards.txt. There's a reason that thread was banished years ago. It has happened to so many goddamn threads on these forums. Mock threads become incredibly pathetic once you get through the inial funny stuff.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:13 |
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Andrast posted:They definitely mean grognards.txt. There's a reason that thread was banished years ago. Unless things keep being strange in a spectacular fashion, they inevitably become about finding perceived failures or sins in the person. If it's about how the person is utterly bizarre, it's almost inevitable that continuing to dive in will become personal and cruel. Even a dude like Dozerfleet can't sustain a deep look without it turning cruel. Even mock threads about product failures end up burning out and looking at people unless they're just a constant drip of "what, why" like Star Citizen.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:30 |
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Andrast posted:They definitely mean grognards.txt. There's a reason that thread was banished years ago. Mock threads require escalation, and if the target won't provide then that posters have to. So yeah looking/banning them is a good idea. Regarding webcomics, I recently went on some computer archeology and found my internet bookmarks file from 2005-2010ish and wow there were a lot of embarrassing webcomics there.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 17:46 |
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sexpig by night posted:if you mean the F&F thread I can only think of like two times that happened and both were 'this guy is literally just selling thinly guised white supremacy RPG poo poo, it feels like that shouldn't be okay to sell' so this feels like a weird grudge to try to insert I have to see this, link pls
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 18:20 |
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sexpig by night posted:if you mean the F&F thread I can only think of like two times that happened and both were 'this guy is literally just selling thinly guised white supremacy RPG poo poo, it feels like that shouldn't be okay to sell' so this feels like a weird grudge to try to insert Do we tell the thread about Varg and Venger?
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 18:29 |
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NorgLyle posted:One of my favorite former threads in the tabletop rpg forum went through this exact slide into something awfulness; people started out finding weird and dumb house rules and bizarre world building but slowly and surely changed over into 'look at how awful this author is someone should really email the website where they sell their pdfs and do something'. Most of the time, I'm glad to read and contribute to the CCCC webcomics thread, but they need to chill out about Lore Olympus just a little bit. The first time I ever used the report feature on this forum was to call in a death threat against the author.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 18:54 |
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Grondoth posted:Unless things keep being strange in a spectacular fashion, they inevitably become about finding perceived failures or sins in the person. despite this thread's faults i'm glad it isn't on the level of a mock thread. i feel like this thread would just devolve into people posting every doug walker and mauler video going "ISNT IT TERRRRIBLE!!! man I can't believe how BAAAD it is!! why doesn't he just die??" (i guess some people do obsess over moviebob and jonathan mcintosh tho)
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 19:08 |
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nine-gear crow posted:Penny Arcade got started doing gag-a-day strips and everyone wanted to be Penny Arcade. Then Megatoyko got started doing serialized narrative storytelling, and everybody suddenly wanted to be Megatokyo. 20 years later, all the wannabe strips are dead and Penny Arcade is still being Penny Arcade, and Megatoyko is still, somehow, amazingly, regrettably, Megatokyo. Holly poo poo Megatokyo is still a thing? I could not imagine how that thing reads for anyone born after the Regan administrations. It was the product of a 90's sub culture that swopped VHS fan subs and eagerly followed the productions of niche games that would never have commercial localization. And that is not even getting into the how Megatokyo radiates a sad malaise. When you read it you get the feeling that buying a Play Station 2 would be high point of the year for most of its fans. Edit: Zoomers if you want a better period piece that came out of the same milieu as Megatokyo read Sexy Losers Edit 2: I just deleted this long paragraph about how Megatokyo is an intresting counterpoint to Achewood. But I can boil it down to how listening to cure album and seeing a body pillow fill me with different types of sadness. side_burned fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Apr 17, 2022 |
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Solitair posted:Most of the time, I'm glad to read and contribute to the CCCC webcomics thread, but they need to chill out about Lore Olympus just a little bit. The first time I ever used the report feature on this forum was to call in a death threat against the author. lmfao what. i missed that
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 19:25 |
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Archer666 posted:"Making fun of something bad and then having some people tip over into an obsession about bad thing" seems to be a very SA thing to do. It's how KF got started, and I've seen a lot of threads go down that route (CAD thread, Gorgeous George etc) It's a human thing. I mean, that's basically what bullying is: some people get a shot of endorphin from righteous contempt, and want to keep getting that poo poo because it feels good. (And usually they're in a situation where not a lot else feels good, so...) Also deciding that the people making the bad things are bad people makes it considerably more comfortable to mock things.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 21:50 |
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Solitair posted:Most of the time, I'm glad to read and contribute to the CCCC webcomics thread, but they need to chill out about Lore Olympus just a little bit. The first time I ever used the report feature on this forum was to call in a death threat against the author.
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# ? Apr 17, 2022 22:39 |
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That is why I stopped following the Deegan thread. I mean, it is well and good to laugh at things being terrible; I wouldn't still be on these forums if I didn't. But too much can just seem poisonous to the soul.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:02 |
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Kinda sucks to be past that wild west era of webcomics when everyone was throwing poo poo on the internet. Professional artist or talentless kid using stolen sprites, you ran the full gamut. Nowadays it feels like webcomics are either legacy holdovers from 20 years ago or talented young artists who burn out after 2-5 years working on their comic.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:10 |
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yeah it sucks that most creative output online just gets funneled into streaming or social media these days
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:20 |
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Pants Donkey posted:Kinda sucks to be past that wild west era of webcomics when everyone was throwing poo poo on the internet. Professional artist or talentless kid using stolen sprites, you ran the full gamut.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:27 |
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah I've been digging that comic and it's a shame how goons have to goon about it being creepy/bad. The Gunnerkrigg Court thread used to be good but had slowly turned into a hatewatch thread it feels like I though GK was supposed to be good? What happened? Pants Donkey posted:Kinda sucks to be past that wild west era of webcomics when everyone was throwing poo poo on the internet. Professional artist or talentless kid using stolen sprites, you ran the full gamut. Honestly, I think there's still the "wild west" stuff, it just doesn't get any attention because it's not what most people want to read, so it doesn't getadvertised, and there's so many comics around that it's buried under the artists burning themselves out.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:34 |
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Lore Olympus is godawful so it makes sense it would be hated
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:36 |
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah I've been digging that comic and it's a shame how goons have to goon about it being creepy/bad. The Gunnerkrigg Court thread used to be good but had slowly turned into a hatewatch thread it feels like I don't think the Gunnerkrigg thread is a fair comparison because it's just people who are/were genuine fans of the comic coming to terms at different times with the comic seeming to lose momentum and meander. The Dobson and CAD threads were pure spite and really unnecessarily mean about poo poo, which is what got them gassed and locked. The old Deegan threads could get a bit intense, but mostly seemed to stay on topic with daily updates so they didn't need to go rifling through police records to see if anyone with Mookie's name tried to smuggle frozen steaks out of nearby grocery stores in their pants or look up his home address. The new one, well, apparently multiple people can't resist paying money to rifle through his Patreon for more "content" and it'll probably keep circling the drain and getting ridiculously worked up over a comic that is aggressively mediocre and dull. Andrast posted:They definitely mean grognards.txt. There's a reason that thread was banished years ago. It was definitely grognards, where someone decided to start digging through police records for a guy making bad D&D splats to pull up super unfunny history of arrests for various forms of familial abuse. Puppy Time posted:I though GK was supposed to be good? What happened? Without getting deep into it, I think the creator is a bit burnt out from writing a comic for almost 20 years. Feels like a lot of plots that have been building up for a long time are getting abruptly wrapped up so the comic can finish soon, with other things left unaddressed or where the only answer is a vaguely unsatisfying "People are complicated ." Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Apr 18, 2022 |
# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:37 |
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My favorite part of the mock thread cycle is when people that aren't thread regulars notice how terrible a mock thread at its worst is and then the regulars tell them that they only think the thread is bad because they're part of the group being mocked. If you think that doxxing disabled teens is bad you must be a Star Citizen backer, if you think that it's really weird to write elaborate fantasies about committing brutal violence on overweight people it's because you're fat, etc etc
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 00:53 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:Without getting deep into it, I think the creator is a bit burnt out from writing a comic for almost 20 years. Feels like a lot of plots that have been building up for a long time are getting abruptly wrapped up so the comic can finish soon, with other things left unaddressed or where the only answer is a vaguely unsatisfying "People are complicated ." That's a sucky situation all around. Burnout is the worst.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 01:50 |
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yeah it's not a full on hate thread, it just has the possibility of heading there, that's why i bounced. i was part of some of the critical response to a past chapter but it kept extending to every new strip and was getting a little too 'bitch eating crackers' for me. i'm sure there's still fine and normal posting in there currently but it wasn't super fun to wade through for me anymore, and i doubt there's gonna be a 'we forgive you king' moment i should really know better than to engage in fandom anyway lol, beyond just consuming entertainment and enjoying it or not enjoying it and moving on at this point i don't even mention the comics i read because some goon might go "you read THAT?!" or something idk. i just read what i like and keep it to myself
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 02:12 |
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Captain Invictus posted:rip cucumber quest Cucumber Quest stopping when it did is probably for the best, the comic felt too in love with itself imo
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 02:50 |
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Honestly just kind of want the Climax already. I don't think Tom Siddell should do another 20 years of slow burn comic.
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# ? Apr 18, 2022 02:58 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:47 |
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a number of online comic creators also found better jobs, like i think cucumber quest stopped partly because she's now a storyboarder, and Jake Wyatt who did Necropolis stopped because he drew for mainstream comcis and then became a showrunner for a superman show
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