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forkboy84 posted:If the rumours are true it's sure a weird choice for Homicide to make up enough to have tagged with him and wrestled him several times a decade later. I remember reading, but don't have a source, that Homicide later said that when he claimed "Maff is a pedophile," he meant "Maff is a philanderer," which if true, wow, that's a bad screwup to make but it would explain why it was comparatively easier for Homicide to forgive him. But, again, I can't find a primary source on that, and most Google results are for Maff getting named during Speaking Out and people being like "well, that's not surprising, remember Homicide saying he was a pedo?"
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Lid posted:Why did Bobby Heenan and Tony Schiavone hate each other? Schiavone was very protective of his job and would often hide story related things he knew about in advance. He also kept his chair slightly higher than the others. Pretty sure Heenan was miserable the whole time in WCW for the same various reasons that most people who hated WCW did. I don't remember for sure if they made up before Heenan died but I feel like they did?
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Tony def comes off on air as having more personality these days and having more humor. He didn't feel like he loved wrestling back in the day like he does now so I can only assume it was the way WCW was run. Because you don't find that love of wrestling when you're old it must have always been there
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Tony definitely seemed too far up his own rear end back in the day and like he could never be the butt of a joke or not look like a serious commentator. I remember an old show he was calling with Jesse Ventura from some Disney-adjacent location where Jesse tried to get him to wear one of those hats with Goofy's ears on it and he just refused like a curmudgeon. I'm glad he's lightened up and found his joy in wrestling again because he's real loving good in AEW.
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I liked that interaction a couple of years ago where Tony blocked some Twitter rando for saying he was a lovely announcer. When Tony realized that person actually said he sucked in latter-day WCW, he immediately unblocked them and said "Yeah, fair enough."
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Ganso Bomb posted:I remember an old show he was calling with Jesse Ventura from some Disney-adjacent location where Jesse tried to get him to wear one of those hats with Goofy's ears on it and he just refused like a curmudgeon. That was Royal Rumble '90 out of Orlando, one of the only two WWF PPVs Tony ever called.
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I think Tony was up for head booker in WCW at one point but ended up getting overlooked for Bischoff after which he just completely lost interest in the product
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Schiavone was very protective of his job and would often hide story related things he knew about in advance. He also kept his chair slightly higher than the others. Pretty sure Heenan was miserable the whole time in WCW for the same various reasons that most people who hated WCW did. This reminds me of this long interview Heenan did with Wrestlecrap years ago where RD Reynolds asked him about the Ultimate Warrior in WCW. Heenan got up and told him to follow him and bring the recorder. You hear them walking for a minute or so with doors opening and closing. Finally, Heenan goes, "What were my thoughts on the Warrior in WCW?" Then he flushes a toilet.
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Purple Monkey posted:I think Tony was up for head booker in WCW at one point but ended up getting overlooked for Bischoff after which he just completely lost interest in the product Yup. The Death of WCW posted:[F]ollowing the departure of Bill Watts, the company was looking for a new head honcho. At the time, many believed that the next boss would be Tony Schiavone, WCW’s lead announcer at the time. Schiavone had, after all, been with the organization since before it was even known as WCW. He’d worked for Jim Crockett, not only as a wrestling announcer but also as a baseball play-by-play man. If anyone was a lock for the job, many reasoned, it was him.
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Purple Monkey posted:I think Tony was up for head booker in WCW at one point but ended up getting overlooked for Bischoff after which he just completely lost interest in the product Jim Ross and Tony Schiavone both thought they were the lead candidates for the "executive producer" position, but Turner went with Eric Bischoff. Ross pretty much immediately quit/worked to get out of his contract to go to WCW, but Schiavone stuck around and from what I recall still cared/worked hard/was a pretty good announcer through at least until 1998 or so, so I assume "getting passed over for Bischoff" isn't what killed his love of wrestling, though eventually "Bischoff is in charge" helped a lot. Ganso Bomb posted:Tony definitely seemed too far up his own rear end back in the day and like he could never be the butt of a joke or not look like a serious commentator. I remember an old show he was calling with Jesse Ventura from some Disney-adjacent location where Jesse tried to get him to wear one of those hats with Goofy's ears on it and he just refused like a curmudgeon. The fact that AEW has (thus far) not traded in random humiliation to pop the bosses, it's not surprising he's looser now.
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Edge & Christian posted:Given the fact that Vince McMahon (and pretty much anyone who ran WCW 1992-2001) seemed to love humiliating people on-air, either as punishment or for the sheer love of the game, I can see how that work environment might lead one to never wanting to do anything too silly or "fun". First it's a Goofy hat, then it's Dr. Heinie or a dancing in your underwear gimmick. I suppose I can see that. I just think of how much fun Gorilla, Bobby, and Jesse had with each other and each took turns looking a little silly from time to time (or in Bobby's case, a lot of the time) but they were never made out to be incompetent bozos. I guess it also felt like they were in on the joke and were fine with looking silly from time to time; definitely a far cry from how they'd treat commentators 20 years later.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Why did Big John Studd win the '89 Rumble? Because the Rumble didn't mean much besides the novelty at that point. The angle anyone cared about was Hogan/Savage, someone had to win it once they were out of the match, and Studd was a big guy and a believable winner for the crowd.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Why did Big John Studd win the '89 Rumble? If I recall correctly, it's because he was able to throw Ted Dibiase over the top rope while simultaneously avoiding anyone else doing the same to him.
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I think they were also going to run back the Studd-Andre feud, with the roles reversed since Andre had turned heel while Studd was gone from WWF. So he could come back and be the big babyface that wins the rumble and then challenges Andre.
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I know it didn't mean anything, but at least Hacksaw made sense in '88 in that he was crazy over. Nobody gave a poo poo about Studd. A possible Andre feud makes sense though.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Why did Big John Studd win the '89 Rumble? He had just come back after a couple years gone, and came back as a face, so I imagine Vince was hoping to push him as one.
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I'm watching through Nitro from the beginning while I get ready in the morning. Steve McMichael was already in the NWO and not in commentary anymore once I started watching as a kid. Please tell me he leaves commentary soon because he is loving killing me. Bobb the Stain? Jesus Christ and that's one of his better ones.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I'm watching through Nitro from the beginning while I get ready in the morning. Steve McMichael was already in the NWO and not in commentary anymore once I started watching as a kid. Please tell me he leaves commentary soon because he is loving killing me. Good news he never joins the nWo and his commentary is the best.
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MassRafTer posted:Good news he never joins the nWo and his commentary is the best. Yeah I looked it up I was mistaken, it was the four horsemen.
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Davros1 posted:He had just come back after a couple years gone, and came back as a face, so I imagine Vince was hoping to push him as one. I seem to recall Studd was also one of those guys Vince had his weird bouts of loyalty towards and it was a way to reward him but Studd just simply couldn't go in the ring by that point.
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As a child I remember seeing a battle royal that ended when in the final four or three a guy covered in, what I remember, giant tooth pick shaped spikes came in and threw people out. Is this a false memory?
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Lid posted:As a child I remember seeing a battle royal that ended when in the final four or three a guy covered in, what I remember, giant tooth pick shaped spikes came in and threw people out. Is this a false memory? What year would that be, roughly?
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Gavok posted:What year would that be, roughly? I can't tell you as the match was on VHS but seeing it was would be roughly 1998.
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Was it one of the Road Warriors?
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Between the movie theater previews and the hellish dystopian gas pump advertisement screens, Maria Menounos is a woman who in my mind is exclusively famous for appearing in places where I'd rather not see her. It has come to my attention recently that she has wrestled in WWE. Does the same hold true for her there or is she actually good enough at it that her presence on screen is not irksome and vexatious?
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Bluedeanie posted:Between the movie theater previews and the hellish dystopian gas pump advertisement screens, Maria Menounos is a woman who in my mind is exclusively famous for appearing in places where I'd rather not see her. It has come to my attention recently that she has wrestled in WWE. Does the same hold true for her there or is she actually good enough at it that her presence on screen is not irksome and vexatious? nearly all of her time at wwe has been as an event host and not a wrestler, and the brief time cagematch has her as performing in-ring is decidedly in the span of time where all a woman signed to wwe had to do was look pretty
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Ganso Bomb posted:I'm glad he's lightened up and found his joy in wrestling again because he's real loving good in AEW. I mentioned it in one of the Dark threads, but Tony's a better commentator now than he's ever been, and a big part of that is because he's been working hard to learn the real names of moves - even the Mexican/Japanese named ones - from Excalibur. In WCW, Tony was calling tons of Cruiserweight matches featuring Mexican wrestlers, but I don't recall him ever calling a tornillo or tijeras until he started working with Ex.
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Bluedeanie posted:Between the movie theater previews and the hellish dystopian gas pump advertisement screens, Maria Menounos is a woman who in my mind is exclusively famous for appearing in places where I'd rather not see her. It has come to my attention recently that she has wrestled in WWE. Does the same hold true for her there or is she actually good enough at it that her presence on screen is not irksome and vexatious? She shows up on Bar Rescue a lot and seems like a nice enough person.
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Bluedeanie posted:Between the movie theater previews and the hellish dystopian gas pump advertisement screens, Maria Menounos is a woman who in my mind is exclusively famous for appearing in places where I'd rather not see her. It has come to my attention recently that she has wrestled in WWE. Does the same hold true for her there or is she actually good enough at it that her presence on screen is not irksome and vexatious? She did well for a celebrity match.
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I think she also worked a Mania or some show with a broken rib
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Bluedeanie posted:Between the movie theater previews and the hellish dystopian gas pump advertisement screens, Maria Menounos is a woman who in my mind is exclusively famous for appearing in places where I'd rather not see her. It has come to my attention recently that she has wrestled in WWE. Does the same hold true for her there or is she actually good enough at it that her presence on screen is not irksome and vexatious? IIRC, she was just inoffensively there. Her first appearance was as a celebrity guest host for Raw so she came in just as herself rather than any sort of wrestling personality. So I guess if you don’t like her for whatever reason, you probably wouldn’t like her in WWE since she was basically just herself doing her regular celebrity interview job and just got out in a couple feuds because she was a name outside of wrestling that was willing to do it.
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What would be the most used move while a ref is distracted? I'm guessing the standard low blow. Distracted for example like a quick 5 or 10 seconds being tied up by a manager. Low Blow Illegal object/weapon (chairshot, brass knuckles) Green Mist
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Atomic Robo-Kid posted:What would be the most used move while a ref is distracted? I'm guessing the standard low blow. Distracted for example like a quick 5 or 10 seconds being tied up by a manager. Illegal Man/Manager attacking opponent while legal man is distracting referee I'd guess.
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Low blow Foreign object Vexatious glance Astonished query Gun
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