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One time after a several minute spiel and the guy asked for my info to set up a demo, I waited an uncomfortable 5 seconds or so and just said Ohhhhhhhhhhhh you're trying to sell me something. Haha. No.
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I'm very good at playing stupid. It comes naturally to me.
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Renegret posted:On the rare occasion a cold call slips through I like to play a game where I'm as unhelpful as possible but also won't hang up the phone until they do so first. I got a spam call on my mobile phone yesterday where a robot voice started going 'HELLO I AM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE MINISTRY OF JUSTICE AND...' and I got all excited for a split second - I never got one of these before and was curious as to the rest of their spiel. Sadly I was outside school waiting to pick up my kids so I had no time to play 419eater, and had to hang up.
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# ? Apr 8, 2022 13:23 |
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A while back I got one of those "You filled out an online survey about investing" scam calls but the dude was pretty chill and actually held his temper really well when I went all GDPR on him like I normally do so I was complimenting him on his technique and kept him on the phone for so long that his boss cut him off.
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I've got a Dell Direct rep that just won't give up. We haven't bought anything from Dell Direct for well over 10 years, but got assigned a new account rep 3 years ago. Every couple months without fail, she emails me an invoice for things "we might need, just approve it and we'll get them sent over," and calls and leaves me a voicemail to set up a meeting to discuss the needs of our organization. I had not yet responded to any of these sales attempts until the other week when I made the mistake of picking up the phone without looking to see who was calling. It was like a bad breakup with a clingy girlfriend. I told her we were not interested, and should have hung up the phone right then, but she demanded to know why we weren't interested. I told her we had a VAR and would not be using Dell Direct for the foreseeable future. Once I finally got off the call she sent no fewer than 3 emails, including a video of her trying to guilt me into buying Dell Direct, and another preprepared invoice of things I could buy! I do not for a minute think I have heard the last of her. I'm honestly surprised she hasn't shown up in person yet.
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Ask your email admins to drop the messages they send
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I feel like the call attempts cross the line into territory that should count as harassment in a legal sense I mean, doesn't the law say they have to stop calling if you tell them to? I know you can sue for harassment over real debts, this seems way worse than that(as bad as that is, don't get me wrong)
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RFC2324 posted:I feel like the call attempts cross the line into territory that should count as harassment in a legal sense it's illegal, and it's why feds go after them it's just hard to prevent abuse of our phone system without MANDATORY shaken/stirred implementation
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Potato Salad posted:it's illegal, and it's why feds go after them Yeah, but if someone is calling constantly, and identifying themselves (because if they don't they are, you know, not gonna sell anything) you should have a fair amount of evidence. This is as opposed to scam callers who spoof numbers and poo poo, which is a separate but related issue
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ahhh I see
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Potato Salad posted:ahhh I see Sorry, just wondering why this never happens when the people who are being harassed are exactly the people equipped to gather what evidence there is, including tons of (traceable) emails saying "hey you ignored my call!"
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My guess would be fear of retaliation. If your company takes legal action against Dell, good luck getting any support afterwards. That might be illegal, but do you really think they care when they are already harassing people?
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Dunno-Lars posted:My guess would be fear of retaliation. If your company takes legal action against Dell, good luck getting any support afterwards. That might be illegal, but do you really think they care when they are already harassing people? I'd think the opposite would be true: Thats the sort of case dell would want to settle out of court instead of having how lovely they treat clients become public. IE you weren't buying anyway; but it hurts their bottom line.
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I once shut down a door to door rep from Spectrum trying to get me to switch back to their lovely service by just telling them I don't use the Internet. The utter look of confusion before they wandered off was gold.
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Got a phone call from an old coworker, once again my old career field is trying to claw me back. It's tempting cause it would get me out of hell desk and double my salary but I feel like IT is the way to go and calibrating poo poo for the rest of my life isn't what I really want to do. Also working from home is something I wouldn't get to do.
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I have been given the all clear from my speech therapist. I do still have one followup with my concussion specialist this coming Friday, but with my occupational, vision, and speech therapists all signing off on my recovery I am confident there will not be any concerns. Signed the offer that's been waiting and putting in my notice tomorrow.
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I'm caught up after years of being behind (like 3)! Congrats larchesdanrew on the great life changes, hopefully the new "Yeah for real I'm doing great give me more and hire someone new for helldesk because I am not touching it ever again" sticks. And good luck Oyster! Hopefully the new setup is going to be great. They waited for you so I am betting it is! I have a lot to rant about, and wanted to reply to a few themes that were popping up but those were months and months ago so I'll get to it, but wanted to share this LinkedIn recruitment message I received that stood out with the subject. IT/Facilities Specialist Needed posted:<Some Mortgage Company> has been in business 29 years, of which we have been profitable every single month and have never had a layoff. Literal Computer Janitor instead of "Other duties as assigned" which they still managed to include. I'm tempted to let them know that this is like requiring a mortgage broker to also do the gardening for the location, two specialized (both important) roles that they should fill with people for each not both.
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minusX posted:I'm caught up after years of being behind (like 3)! Congrats larchesdanrew on the great life changes, hopefully the new "Yeah for real I'm doing great give me more and hire someone new for helldesk because I am not touching it ever again" sticks. And good luck Oyster! Hopefully the new setup is going to be great. They waited for you so I am betting it is! Did they include a salary range anywhere? I’d love to do actual janitoring just to spice my day up
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i am a moron posted:Did they include a salary range anywhere? I’d love to do actual janitoring just to spice my day up
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Me: Hey boss, $team is asking me to do something. I can do it pretty easy but I don't want to open the floodgates of us doing this every single day, it sounds like there's a break in process that needs to be addressed. Boss: Yeah, you're right. Good call. Also can you help $director unlock his TACACS account? $director's entire team proceeds to reach out to me directly to unlock their accounts instead of following the correct process. (Password expiration emails are broken so everyone's getting locked out)
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I am currently getting spammed by emails from McAfEe AnTiViRuS <bob@abcgardening.com> and MCAFEE ANTIVIRUS <sfkrsv+dge123@62afyjgegbdrgvdd.info> helpfully letting me know that my antivirus contract is about to expire and I need to hurry! Hurry! Hurry! to resubscribe. I’ve never clicked on a link to find out where I’m being sent, but I wonder if Mcafee is aware that this is how their advertising dollar is being spent.
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A couple of these (from Norton or McAfee, containing an invoice and telling me I need to call them to cancel the order I've already placed) are making it through Google's spam filters to me every week and it just confused me to no end why someone would pick these two products to try to scam people. I can't imagine anyone in IT would be fooled by this, is the general public even aware of these companies at all?
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Those are the AV products most likely to come pre-installed on your store bought laptop, so it makes sense to try target randos. Corporate addresses are far less likely to fall for it.
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Sirotan posted:A couple of these (from Norton or McAfee, containing an invoice and telling me I need to call them to cancel the order I've already placed) are making it through Google's spam filters to me every week and it just confused me to no end why someone would pick these two products to try to scam people. I can't imagine anyone in IT would be fooled by this, is the general public even aware of these companies at all? The ones I saw most recently appeared to be abusing legitimate services (quickbooks online, etc) to send scam invoices which is an interesting technique.
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Sirotan posted:A couple of these (from Norton or McAfee, containing an invoice and telling me I need to call them to cancel the order I've already placed) are making it through Google's spam filters to me every week and it just confused me to no end why someone would pick these two products to try to scam people. I can't imagine anyone in IT would be fooled by this, is the general public even aware of these companies at all? Glad it's not just my account getting these
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Thanks Ants posted:Glad it's not just my account getting these Nah, I have been too. McAfee most prominently, a few Norton, and a QB one as well.
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I'm getting all mine to my personal email. Speaking of spam filters, you know what makes you look like a dick? Complaining to a client that your questions aren't being answered so you can't do the work they want only to find out that your spam filter has decided that all emails from their staff with obviously not English-derived names are suspicious and is silently binning them for all recipients. It me, I'm the dick
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I wasn't aware you could set a spam filter to 'racist' but I suppose I'm not surprised
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I like getting complaints about important messages not getting through and it turns out they are all failing due to the DMARC policy that the sender has set.
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Sadly I don't have visibility into the rules that decided to do this, but I have been assured that it's been resolved by our MSP. I wish I could work out what caused the problem exactly though. It was oddly specific.
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Sirotan posted:A couple of these (from Norton or McAfee, containing an invoice and telling me I need to call them to cancel the order I've already placed) are making it through Google's spam filters to me every week and it just confused me to no end why someone would pick these two products to try to scam people. I can't imagine anyone in IT would be fooled by this, is the general public even aware of these companies at all? Mine are hitting the spam box, but it's absolutely LOADED with them. I have to keep scanning it because for some reason, a legit sender seems to have gotten itself permanently flagged and no amount of clicking "Not Spam" has gotten it to hit my inbox. Meanwhile, some vet clinic on the other side of the country keeps sending me reminders for a dog I don't own.
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RFC2324 posted:I wasn't aware you could set a spam filter to 'racist' but I suppose I'm not surprised You could probably do that with Mimecast if you got creative with the custom threat dictionaries.
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Maneki Neko posted:The ones I saw most recently appeared to be abusing legitimate services (quickbooks online, etc) to send scam invoices which is an interesting technique. I've had a lot of notifications that I've been added to collaborate on a Google Docs file which is fully spam, and generally by the time I get to it to remove/report the file it's already been done, but I'll have 1-3 notices on my phone from drive saying stuff about hot women and sigh another thing to be spammed by. Abusing existing good tech is the worst, please stick to spamming via email.
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The fake invoice scam is pretty common because it doesn't require any technical skill at all, the victims tend to be too embarassed to report it until you've gotten the money clear, and a lot of larger companies will look at it, compare the value to the perceived cost of the rep hit, and go "welp, there's no breach here so we're just going to pretend this didn't happen" and that's that.
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Oh, the fake invoice scam I had a customer at work use it to scan their customer once. Someone came in to buy a pair of window balances. Those aren't normally stock items, so I gave him a quote for a pair of them, which came to $33.92 before tax, took the order, and sent him on his merry way. At the time, we used QuickBooks, so our sales receipts were fairly QB-boilerplate. My "customer" copied this template with, I'm guessing, Word, jacked the prices of the balances up, and slapped a big red "PAID" stamp on the front in the same orientation as the big black "PENDING" on his own copy of the pending receipt. Basically duplicated it and made it look like he shelled out $70 for a couple balances. He then proceeded to take "payment" from his own customer and then dropped off the map. A few months later, his "customer" came in demanding to know just where in the gently caress his balances were. I was flustered at first and then realized two things that my "customer" did not: 1) Our paid receipts have no stamp. The "PENDING" goes away and is replaced by blank space. 2) Our counter printer (all of our printers except for one on the other end of the building, actually) is grayscale only. So this big red stamp wouldn't have come out of one of our printers. Poor bastard got taken for $70 and then still had to shell out the $36.12 for his product, which I then showed him how to install. At least they were drop-dead simple to change out. Still had me feeling pretty for a while though.
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It's always weird when the scams are for such low amounts and you're trashing your business to do it.
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Upcharging someone 100% for materials is a scam in itself, but the person could probably have kept doing it and made a lot more money than the $70 they got away with here.
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I've been waffling between committing time and energy into better learning Azure,or AWS, in hopes of pivoting my career. Today at the store, I heard a woman angrily shouting "Linux" as her kid tore up the toy section. I am unsure if that is a sign for, or against, AWS.
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As of 2019 more than 50% of vm cores on azure were running linux. Take that for what you will
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Your goal is to never touch vm’s.
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