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Cup Runneth Over posted:given that the cars are going to be connected to each other and basically moving in a train, like a retinue, I propose we call it a train car my other proposal was just make really big EVs but instead of batteries we put wires overhead and used the magic of scale to make everything more efficient. some sort of externally powered multi-passenger EV. I'm sure this is a completely new idea and not something good that was destroyed in a plot so ridiculous they made a cartoon about it.
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Polo-Rican posted:for car brained people in the suburbs, it's not about the stroad itself, it's about parking. Parking is everything. Stroads enable big strip malls which have tons of free parking. Suburbanites would rather drive 45 minutes to a strip mall with guaranteed free parking than 5 minutes to a denser area where they might need to think about parking or even *gasp* pay a few bucks to park which is why parking on the outskirts of urban areas should be free and shuttled into the walkable areas. you can't instantly fix suburban hell but you can bring a shitload of money into your urban core if you make it a place people can drive to without driving through. TeenageArchipelago posted:I've seen it a little bit around where I live, but where I live is a rural town of a few thousand people, and the streets are all laid out relatively neatly. Not like a suburb where the roads are laid out intentionally to make them a pain to drive through so that non-residents don't. most recently the rise in deliveries done by drivers who are given impossible schedules has hosed those suburban neighborhoods as well. there's constantly uber eats/doordash/amazon/fedex and none of them have a job tomorrow if they obey the speed limits today Harik has issued a correction as of 18:24 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Harik posted:my other proposal was just make really big EVs but instead of batteries we put wires overhead and used the magic of scale to make everything more efficient. some sort of externally powered multi-passenger EV. I'm sure this is a completely new idea and not something good that was destroyed in a plot so ridiculous they made a cartoon about it. ehn, i dunno, would they allow, you know, ethnic types to get on these things?
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Wolfy posted:Something like this? From the advertisement, that seems really cool. Now awaiting for a post that would explain its difficulties, I'm not seeing. Also wondering if I could ship myself on one of these crates to get around the country. mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 18:54 on Apr 19, 2022 |
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Harik posted:which is why parking on the outskirts of urban areas should be free and shuttled into the walkable areas. you can't instantly fix suburban hell but you can bring a shitload of money into your urban core if you make it a place people can drive to without driving through. But that means you don't get to drive directly to your destination, which makes the whole point moot!!!
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:From the advertisement, that seems really cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUpST_cQ1hM
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Doc Hawkins posted:ehn, i dunno, would they allow, you know, ethnic types to get on these things?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:lol the gray-haired dope driving that midlife-crisis-mobile Lol that's one of the worst possible cars for someone without ability to drive like a maniac
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withak posted:IMO self-driving cars could be fine with today's technology with the following changes: almost none of this is actually possible with today's technology op.
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have you ever used wifi have you ever used cellular data? We've been working on that for what like 30 years now and it's still utter poo poo, but you want to get started on an always connected radio wifi cellular network dependent robot car? how about you just hand out shotgun shells for people to shoot eachother with, much less cost and complexity
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Wolfy posted:i've seen a few of those tesla self driving videos and that poo poo is worse than an actual driver which is really saying something Those videos are great. I saw one where the car drove into a bush and the guy said it wasn't the car's fault because the bush should have been cut back.
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Laserface posted:at the risk of getting dogpiled I am a car enthusiast. I also dislike car-centric infrastructure. I ride an e-bike anywhere I need to go within say 10km of my house, which covers about 95% of my outings besides work. I drive to work as its not practical to ride. I would absolutely love to never have to drive except for the thrill of driving. I dont hate cars obviously but I really wish I could use it way less for boring poo poo like picking up groceries or visiting people outside of my city. I think you’re onto something here: we can’t just can cars. we need to ban cameras too
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tfw it turns out the shakers were 100% right about everything
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Wolfy posted:Something like this? This seems absurd over any meaningful distance but maybe useful within like, a train yard or port? I don't know how train yards and ports work.
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Lilium Dimension posted:This seems absurd over any meaningful distance but maybe useful within like, a train yard or port?
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Norton posted:also, i dont know if im just old or what but i remember roaming the streets of my neighborhood in little bike gangs with the other kids in the area. we would play sports in the street, hang out on the sidewalks and generally just be outside a lot. i never see any kids at all in the suburbs around where i live. desolate streets populated only by cars. is this some sort of shift anyone else has noticed? maybe i am just misremembering youth or live in a weird place No this is definitely a thing. Ask a boomer about how they spent their youth and what they think about how kids today spend their free time. Wolfy posted:Yeah it feels like a port would be the best place that something like this might actually work. The biggest issue if you end up with in this system is that every car now has two battery powered drive units which is a maintenance nightmare. Shunting cars around a port with a lovely old locomotive just seems a lot easier in every way. If you want to make a massive difference in US freight efficiency you don't need any crazy gimmicks, get local freight rail back on the menu and you take tons of trucks off of the road. Of course, that's probably not going to make anyone insanely wealthy in the process which might explain why we stopped doing it in the first place. You could probably get away with simple/low-capacity batteries and/or an electrified track system? But in any case I don't think intra-port efficiency is the most pressing problem* at the moment. *Again, no idea how ports work.
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Lilium Dimension posted:This seems absurd over any meaningful distance but maybe useful within like, a train yard or port? https://youtu.be/nJNvpG5gktM
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gently caress all this car poo poo just let me walk or bike to places god drat
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:gently caress all this car poo poo just let me walk or bike to places god drat
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Harik posted:and this is... what people want? About the only thing all americans can agree on, yes mystes posted:Maybe white Americans would support transit again if segregation was restored We'll find out in a few years probably! (We'll never see our public transportation return) Doc Hawkins posted:this would be an improvement over the status quo: separate networks of roads and streets, which intersect at as few points as possible, instead of the current plague of stroads where pedestrian paths line the roads to maximize contact between cars and delicious killable humans. I actually know someone I moderately trust on the matter and she got a kick out of Calgary during a business trip. Street level outside is a ghost town though Jokerpilled Drudge posted:gently caress all this car poo poo just let me walk or bike to places god drat 
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i got an e-bike last month and I'm learning to enjoy taking the full lane while drivers ride my rear end with no opportunity to pass  i work nights so i really only get to do it on my ride home in the morning, but it's a real pick-me-up after a long shift
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i haven't had to commute since march 2020 but I had jury duty today so i took my old route in to the city. holy gently caress am i glad i dont have to do that anymore. despite years of constant construction the traffic is worse than ever and lanes are still closed and everything is somehow still under construction. just permanent roadwork everywhere and gridlock traffic with giant trucks creeping through 1,000 stoplights. i have a feeling that putting all the 44,000 lb trucks and the 3,000 lb cars on the same roads was a mistake
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Norton posted:i haven't had to commute since march 2020 but I had jury duty today so i took my old route in to the city. holy gently caress am i glad i dont have to do that anymore. despite years of constant construction the traffic is worse than ever and lanes are still closed and everything is somehow still under construction. just permanent roadwork everywhere and gridlock traffic with giant trucks creeping through 1,000 stoplights.
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I will gain 40,000lbs and when a car hits me it will simply bounce off.
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Norton posted:i haven't had to commute since march 2020 but I had jury duty today so i took my old route in to the city. holy gently caress am i glad i dont have to do that anymore. despite years of constant construction the traffic is worse than ever and lanes are still closed and everything is somehow still under construction. just permanent roadwork everywhere and gridlock traffic with giant trucks creeping through 1,000 stoplights. Lol what the gently caress do you do if you get jury duty and don't own a car
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Leave at 4 in the morning to get there on time likely lmao
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IAMKOREA posted:Lol what the gently caress do you do if you get jury duty and don't own a car take a convoluted bus route that requires 1 hr each way minimum just to go maybe 10 miles if you’re lucky. 1.5 is more likely if you’re lucky you get assigned to a court that’s actually in your city, if you’re unlucky you get sent to the court that’s in the rear end end of your huge county more realistically you just throw a jury summon in the trash and if they ever come knocking (lol they usually don’t) you say you never received it certified Mail and hope for the best
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Milo and POTUS posted:Leave at 4 in the morning to get there on time likely lmao you have to get there on time. the judge though? lol
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The "peasant grinder" front grille motif is making its way into luxury sedans https://twitter.com/marcspecht/status/1516813780633673731?s=20&t=GHfTciT_6nTvfaXacLKw4Q
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Nitevision posted:The "peasant grinder" front grille motif is making its way into luxury sedans (my monitor is on fwiw)
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Nitevision posted:The "peasant grinder" front grille motif is making its way into luxury sedans Full ack!
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Nitevision posted:The "peasant grinder" front grille motif is making its way into luxury sedans Full ack? Was this written by Cathy?
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Nitevision posted:The "peasant grinder" front grille motif is making its way into luxury sedans Along with the comically big grille they're going all in on giant touch screen; they were one of the few holdouts. It still breaks my head that my 7 year old car disables the touch screen when the car is moving, whereas cars now expect you to use the touch screen for essential controls like the defroster and wipers. No wonder they're putting so many safety features in.
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Polo-Rican posted:the free market will never make a good self-driving car, because a good self-driving car would have be cautious and therefore kinda slow and boring, which doesn't sell. if we had a competent socialist government that actually cared about the safety of its citizens, and was willing to wrestle control over the automotive industry, self-driving could probably be implemented very effectively with modern technology, but lol!!! if the government won't send out $0.01 masks during a pandemic they're not gonna spend money on infrastructure to make driving safer Yeah, I think you can kinda imagine how a self-driving car created under completely different conditions would be a marked improvement over what we have now. It would go like 20 mph max and be festooned with sensors and operate on demand just ferrying people from their homes to the nearest grocery store or transit stop, and the programming would basically compel it to interpret everything it detects as a reason to slow down or even stop. of course this is a fantasy because that's the opposite of how the car-brained expect cars to work; it's a vision of not car-ness that would leave most suburbanites in a cold sweat. the self-driving cars we see now are created in our own image, not as an idealized version of what cars could be. musk was just saying the quiet part loud when tesla cars got the update that plainly stated they would run stop signs, because at this point we expect drivers to run red lights and stop signs and to speed and hit and kill people, and that's what we'll expect self-driving cars to do too once all the delusions about perfectly-coordinated streets full of cars communicating with each other at 90 mph fade away. the robot cars are doing what's expected of them, following in the footsteps of human drivers. even the perfect socialist fsd car sucks compared to subways or trams or streetcars or bikes or the kinds of neighborhoods that mean you dont need any vehicle other than your own feet or wheels to get around, but given the huge number of people stuck in suburban sprawl who can see that their neighborhoods will never support any of those other things it probably looks like a good alternative.
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imagine if society treated the average carbrain this wayeverdave posted:In NYC they are cracking down on idling cars and trucks. Some people are scoring big bucks. I love the hack where weirdos are filming trucks and getting paid but also I hate them and I’d it was my truck I’d shoot them dead. This is basically my life at least there's a corner of these dead gay internets that haven't been co-opted by 5 megatech corps that actually expunge these losers
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i admit i dont get the idling thing in particular the gas use is minimal compare to idiot loving car brains that speed up to 40+ mph on a 25-mph road only to slam on the brakes at a stop sign only do it again and again. you get way more tire particulates which is cancerous and consumes way more fuel than some dipshit just idling a car for like 0.1 gallons per hour. like you see a red light ahead, speeding up to it to slam on isn't going to make it go any faster yet everyone seems to think it does. which is still bad but psycho drivers speeding then brake slamming then speeding then brake slamming to shave maybe <30 seconds off their 2 hour commute is just so vastly orders of magnitude worse and everyone does it
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i've never heard of anyone cracking down on idling around where i live. yeah thats a minor thing but i'd be happy to see any push back on cars. so many fuckers around here who idle their diesel f-250s in the grocery store parking lot stinking the whole place up. feels like im back at the middleschool bus loop every time i park my car somewhere
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