skooma512 posted:

We are trapped here anyway thanks to the speed of light and radiation, no reason to gently caress up the sky.

nikosoft posted:

The more things change, the more they stay the same though. Despite worrying about fire and consciously taking steps to create and maintain that defensible space, if you ask them why we are in this situation, you'll get a rant about how we don't have to enough dams, or because we let too much water out of the dams for the fish, or the environmentalists don't let us log enough, or whatever. It's like dude, you can literally look out your back porch and see the Sierra and see how little snow there is most years, and how the snow comes later and melts earlier each year. They barely get snow at their house anymore, but I vividly remember many snow days there as a kid. Or you can look around in Tahoe and see all of the dead and dying pine trees from the drought and the bark beetle. How does a dam solve all of that? And then my mom talks about how maybe they should just sell and movr to Florida, I mention something about sea level rise, and she just looks at me like??? God drat it!

The Protagonist posted:

actually bzzt no it's still capitalism, a finite c and some E aint no big deal to FAGSC

Cup Runneth Over posted:

ur not allowed 2 use slurs in cspam except for landl*rd

Hubbert posted:

just compare your living standards with your ancestors (20th century) and those likely to be faced by our descendants (21st century onwards)

the only truly different thing about our circumstances is that it will be world-wide, and there will be no "escape"

Hubbert posted:

now, if you excuse me, I need to go to the grocery store and scream at the plastic-wrapped chip bags and candy packages

Hubbert posted:

uh guys I don't know how to tell you this, but outside of global thermonuclear war, the collapse of complex societies is a long protracted process that takes, at minimum, generations to unfold.

just compare your living standards with your ancestors (20th century) and those likely to be faced by our descendants (21st century onwards)

the only truly different thing about our circumstances is that it will be world-wide, and there will be no "escape"

Hubbert posted:

uh guys I don't know how to tell you this, but outside of global thermonuclear war, the collapse of complex societies is a long protracted process that takes, at minimum, generations to unfold.

just compare your living standards with your ancestors (20th century) and those likely to be faced by our descendants (21st century onwards)

the only truly different thing about our circumstances is that it will be world-wide, and there will be no "escape"

Trainee PornStar posted:

I bet your fun at parties..

The Protagonist posted:

Karach posted:

so the only thing different is a massive difference

Trainee PornStar posted:

I bet your fun at parties..

nikosoft posted:

We've spent a dozen days the past couple of months up at my parents house quite literally raking the forest, so Trump certainly got one thing right. This is an oak savanna biome, so historically fire used to rip through here periodically, either via natural means or carefully cultivated by the indigenous population, at least up until they were driven from their lands and ethnically cleansed by the settlers. There's really something about cleaning out two hundred years worth of oak leaves and detris from in between scattered granite boulders in the name of fire safety, it's kind of loving me up a bit.

It's amazing how much change has occurred in the last five years. Everyone is working hard to create defensible space, I think my parents will be part of some local grant or rebate program that can be applied towards their fire insurance (if it isn't canceled outright). Most houses in the area now have goats in order to keep the grass on their property under control. A PG&E crew spent a week on my parents property last year cutting down trees that had grown up around the powerlines, since they are supposed to maintain that from the road until the pole where it goes into the house (this is the area we are currently working on clearing debris from).

The more things change, the more they stay the same though. Despite worrying about fire and consciously taking steps to create and maintain that defensible space, if you ask them why we are in this situation, you'll get a rant about how we don't have to enough dams, or because we let too much water out of the dams for the fish, or the environmentalists don't let us log enough, or whatever. It's like dude, you can literally look out your back porch and see the Sierra and see how little snow there is most years, and how the snow comes later and melts earlier each year. They barely get snow at their house anymore, but I vividly remember many snow days there as a kid. Or you can look around in Tahoe and see all of the dead and dying pine trees from the drought and the bark beetle. How does a dam solve all of that? And then my mom talks about how maybe they should just sell and movr to Florida, I mention something about sea level rise, and she just looks at me like??? God drat it!

Hubbert posted:

I haven't even shown y'all my final form yet.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Is it oil

Cup Runneth Over posted:

no that requires heat and pressure and millions of years

Ogantai posted:

Slider posted:

how is the bee/wasp situation? still bad ?

Karach posted:

everything's fine, pedophiles are everywhere.

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

it's great that the talking points hq of republicans everywhere latched on to grooming

certainly not a case of doth protest

Hubbert posted:

uh guys I don't know how to tell you this, but outside of global thermonuclear war, the collapse of complex societies is a long protracted process that takes, at minimum, generations to unfold.

just compare your living standards with your ancestors (20th century) and those likely to be faced by our descendants (21st century onwards)

the only truly different thing about our circumstances is that it will be world-wide, and there will be no "escape"

The Protagonist posted:

it is an unfortunate initialism i only just discovered

FFT posted:

use FALGSC

Hubbert posted:

uh guys I don't know how to tell you this, but outside of global thermonuclear war, the collapse of complex societies is a long protracted process that takes, at minimum, generations to unfold.

just compare your living standards with your ancestors (20th century) and those likely to be faced by our descendants (21st century onwards)

the only truly different thing about our circumstances is that it will be world-wide, and there will be no "escape"

Leroy Diplowski posted:

There will be a protracted series of microcollapses and while individual action isn't really going to make an impact on the macro collapse you still have a part to play in how your neighborhood and the people connected to you fare in the coming decades.

Karach posted:

is there like a modern version of a Platonic dialogue where right wing pedophiles explain how it's right and proper for attractive children to enter into a social/sexual relationship with wealthy adults? I just want to see how far we are along to creating the neo-aristocracy for our neo-feudal future.

Slider posted:

how is the bee/wasp situation? still bad ?

The Protagonist posted:

i forgot about luxury!

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

look at all these nerd words and "attractive children"

how are they attracting you? with their short pants and weird spoilt milk smell?

what kind of toppings do you want on your pizza?

Whitenoise Poster posted:

A snow storm last night knocked out the power in like four towns. So much for the great lakes region being safeish.

The Protagonist posted:

actually bzzt no it's still capitalism, a finite c and some E aint no big deal to FAGSC