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Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Psycho Landlord posted:

As everyone shouts for a cool new game in the 40k universe that isn't a retread, the monkey's paw curls

GW announces Wargame 40k: AirSpace Battle, but you can only play as the Tau

We'll just have to settle for Dakka Squadron instead.

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Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.
The original Chaos Gate was a decent, albeit too linear, X-Com clone. If Daemonhunters turns out to be a nu X-Com clone with a few different mechanics and wonky graphics, i'll be satisfied.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Psycho Landlord posted:

As everyone shouts for a cool new game in the 40k universe that isn't a retread, the monkey's paw curls

GW announces Wargame 40k: AirSpace Battle, but you can only play as the Tau

Arkane Studios land the license for a 40k immersive sim, but you play as an Imperial Fists Terminator in a bright yellow bulky armour and your character simply doesn't believe in stealth.

Fatty
Sep 13, 2004
Not really fat

FishMcCool posted:

In addition to the ridiculous action and characters, I also mightily enjoy how hard they have to work to try and retrofit the various stupid puns from the Rogue Trader era into the highly grimdark and serious universe they tried to turn it into over time. Stuff like... Colonel Kurtz Conrad Kurze being a moody broody bossman doing bad stuff for his greater good because he's seen some poo poo, and ending up being killed by imperial assassin Martin Sheen M'Shen. Or the Dark Angels having Lionel Johnson Lion El'Jonson as British Poet Primarch. Or the Space Mongols White Scars being founded by second son of Genghis Khan 5th son of the Emperor Jagathai Khan. Or the Angry Marines World Eaters being founded by a very angry dude called Angron.

Don't forget Ferrus Manus of the Iron Hands, and Corvus Corax of the Ravenguard.

The ultimate is Ghazghkul Mag Uruk Thraka, Ork warboss and tory leader.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Fatty posted:

Don't forget Ferrus Manus of the Iron Hands, and Corvus Corax of the Ravenguard.

The ultimate is Ghazghkul Mag Uruk Thraka, Ork warboss and tory leader.

That's why I have no remorse myself. See the dude on the left?



That's Sgt Sammael Jackson.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

FishMcCool posted:

That's why I have no remorse myself. See the dude on the left?



That's Sgt Sammael Jackson.

"Does Jaghatai Khan look like a bitch?"

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Serephina posted:

Mechanicus: 10/10 sound design and game feel, 2/10 tactics game with 0/10 balance, yikes.


And 11/10 soundtrack.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


The 7th Guest posted:

Out of the Park Baseball 23 (April 22nd) - Can't believe they've made 23 of these! Wow! idk if people still like this franchise or not

OOTP is great but their full-throated focus on their Perfect Team lootbox card poo poo is so loving unappealing that I'm finally just not buying this one. And I've been onboard since OOTP13.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Sab669 posted:

Then you should Warhammer 40K: Space Marine to your collection, because that is actually a good fun game.



And now I just remembered it's finally getting a sequel :toot:

why the gently caress isn't there a version of this where you play an ork nob yet, this is a crime imo

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:



:hai: mechanicus' music is so insanely good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEUwkvNbks

shame about the tactical part of the game, but it was fun for a few hours

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

It's not just the music, the sound design is phenomenal too.
Whoever was responsible for it is extremely loving talented.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

The one thing I don't like about Darktide is that they're new characters and not just the Vermintide ones but as Imperial Guard or whatever

Mahflahs

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Jack Trades posted:

It's not just the music, the sound design is phenomenal too.
Whoever was responsible for it is extremely loving talented.

yeah - the weapons, voices, everything is top notch

hell, i've never seen another game where even the user interface sound effects - clicking buttons, confirming targets, switching screens, all that - are worthy of notice like they are in Mechanicus

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Ciaphas posted:

why the gently caress isn't there a version of this where you play an ork nob yet, this is a crime imo

:hmmorks:


People are big dumb losers who apparently need to relate to the protagonist therefore you can only ever play as Humans.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

hosed up that everyone is posting about cool warhammer games like Mechanicus (which is cool) but no one is mentioning BFG Armada 2, the game that lets you kill Abaddon

haldolium
Oct 22, 2016



Serephina posted:



Bought Darwinia for the nostalgia (lost my original copy, no idea where I first bought it), really enjoyed it. Took 7 hours total, and that was me taking my sweet time doing alternative things, so it's a short game. The most surprising thing (other than the troll intros) was that by modern standards it's a chill RTS, since it was made back in the day when such things where still considered novel and cool gameplay. I miss RTS's.

Paid two bucks fifty local currency, absolutely worth.

Darwinia is very good, much like DEFCON one of the best games from Introversion. I basically only disliked their last game Scanner Sombre, which had a great idea but the style wasn't my taste.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

FishMcCool posted:

Colonel Kurtz Conrad Kurze being a moody broody bossman doing bad stuff for his greater good because he's seen some poo poo, and ending up being killed by imperial assassin Martin Sheen M'Shen.

god dammit

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

I just want a story focused 40K Inquisitor RPG.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

FishMcCool posted:

Arkane Studios land the license for a 40k immersive sim, but you play as an Imperial Fists Terminator in a bright yellow bulky armour and your character simply doesn't believe in stealth.

What is the Fists' gimmick anyways? I feel like I have a handle on the other big chapters, eg SMurfs are space Romans, Wulfs are space Vikings, BA are space Draculas, etc.

Oenis
Mar 15, 2012
What I really want to know is which space marine chapter has the worst of the worst space marines. Lemme play as them.


IShallRiseAgain posted:

I just want a story focused 40K Inquisitor RPG.

There was an Eisenhorn RPG at some point that was pretty faithful to the first novel, but it was so incredibly mid-budget and flawed that it didn't really get the recognition that the source material deserves.

Edit: https://store.steampowered.com/app/373920/Eisenhorn_XENOS/ oh crap it's actually one of the few games that have been pulled from steam.

Oenis fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Apr 20, 2022

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Mordja posted:

What is the Fists' gimmick anyways? I feel like I have a handle on the other big chapters, eg SMurfs are space Romans, Wulfs are space Vikings furries, BA are space Draculas, etc.




But really I thought Fists were just like the siege masters. I could be mixing them up with another chapter though. I'm a heretic / xenos fan at heart, and even then I just never got all That into the fluff of the world

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Mordja posted:

What is the Fists' gimmick anyways? I feel like I have a handle on the other big chapters, eg SMurfs are space Romans, Wulfs are space Vikings, BA are space Draculas, etc.

they love fisting this isn't complicated

Fifty Farts
Dec 23, 2013

- Meticulously Researched
- Peer-reviewed

haldolium posted:

Darwinia is very good, much like DEFCON one of the best games from Introversion. I basically only disliked their last game Scanner Sombre, which had a great idea but the style wasn't my taste.

Yeah, I still occasionally have Uplink binges where I'll play for a few days, hack a bunch of poo poo, and then put it away for a while. Prison Architect still has the pre-Paradox version available. Scanner Sombre was a neat tech demo, but I got bored with it pretty quickly. It would be cool as a mechanic for exploring dark caves in a bigger game, where it's not the sole focus. It could be a neat way to detect hidden rooms or something, too. I would have liked to see them do something with the other option they had, the "totally not Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes" game.

Introversion is cool.

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Oenis posted:

What I really want to know is which space marine chapter has the worst of the worst space marines. Lemme play as them.

There was an Eisenhorn RPG at some point that was pretty faithful to the first novel, but it was so incredibly mid-budget and flawed that it didn't really get the recognition that the source material deserves.

Edit: https://store.steampowered.com/app/373920/Eisenhorn_XENOS/ oh crap it's actually one of the few games that have been pulled from steam.

I knew about that, but I believe that was an action game. It was also a lovely cell phone port.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib

Mordja posted:

What is the Fists' gimmick anyways? I feel like I have a handle on the other big chapters, eg SMurfs are space Romans, Wulfs are space Vikings, BA are space Draculas, etc.

They're just boring soldiers, that's kind of their shtick. While all other chapters were having mad adventures and writing autobiographies, they were just doing their jobs, standing in their assigned defensive positions in the imperial palace. Of course, the Emperor ended up teleporting aboard Horus's ship, so holding the palace wasn't exactly all that useful in the end. But that was their job and they did it, making them as boring as your average serviceman's military life. They're also supposed to be specialised in fortifying and defending positions, which you kind of would expect from any reasonably competent army, but amidst a sea of "they are waiting for us with heavy weapons, let's just go MELEE! With SWORDS!" chapters, makes them come up as remarkably sensible.

Also, they are bright yellow, which isn't that sensible, but looks pretty drat awesome until you try painting them and realise this is the shittiest pigment ever and you decide to go with another chapter.

FishMcCool fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Apr 20, 2022

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
W40K games are a such a broad topic because they went from super rare and hard to license the IP (Dawn of War 1&2, absolute GOATs) to literal shovelware trash mobile games dumped onto the PC market that didn't even work properly.

Dawn of War 1 was basically Company of Heroes was way better. The expansions were cool (Winter Assault), loving incredible and an entirely new game (Dark Crusade), and weird grimdark edgylord (SPEESS MARRRINES IN THEIR FLYING BOXES!)

Dawn of War 2 was the squad based RTS idea taken to it's logical perfection and incredibly good. The story was solid, nothing too amazing, but they way they developed the equipment/upgrades and missions was such a huge improvement over the standard RTS chain of missions. The expansions were both great, and The Last Stand was a multiplayer battle arena, was crazy good and I think is still slightly active to this day?

The only major game after that I sunk my time into was Space Marine, sort of Gears of War-esque but the focus on constantly rushing into combat instead of ducking behind concrete. After that I picked up a couple here and there from bundles, some looking way more grognard then my taste, and some like the mobile games that I don't think I was able to play more then 20 minutes before they crashed. Someone already mentioned the Eisenhorn game, based on their most famous book IP, that was another lovely mobile game. W40K Eternal Crusade, what the gently caress happened there?

If the wiki is right, there were more W40k games released in 2017 and 2018 then games released before 2009 (DoW2)

"Good" games as far as a minimum playable enjoyment are

Dawn of War 1&2
Space Marine
Battlefleet Gothic
Inquistor (the diablo-like?)
Space Hulk?

Any I missed? afaik the rest are some low effort ports and/or trash. Some are basically just boardgames adapted directly to a PC UI.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Apr 20, 2022

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Mordja posted:

What is the Fists' gimmick anyways? I feel like I have a handle on the other big chapters, eg SMurfs are space Romans, Wulfs are space Vikings, BA are space Draculas, etc.

They fortify everything they set foot on and will always respond to anything they are told by narrowing their eyes and demanding proof no matter what the context of the conversation is.

Yes that's really it.

E: Oh and I guess they have the literal giant flying space cathedral too, as in actually just some massive multi-kilometer cathedral they pulled off some planet and made spaceworthy however many thousands of years ago

You get to used it in the aforementioned good game BFG Armada 2

Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Apr 20, 2022

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

pentyne posted:

W40K games are a such a broad topic because they went from super rare and hard to license the IP (Dawn of War 1&2, absolute GOATs) to literal shovelware trash mobile games dumped onto the PC market that didn't even work properly.

Dawn of War 1 was basically Company of Heroes was way better. The expansions were cool (Winter Assault), loving incredible and an entirely new game (Dark Crusade), and weird grimdark edgylord (SPEESS MARRRINES IN THEIR FLYING BOXES!)

Dawn of War 2 was the squad based RTS idea taken to it's logical perfection and incredibly good. The story was solid, nothing too amazing, but they way they developed the equipment/upgrades and missions was such a huge improvement over the standard RTS chain of missions. The expansions were both great, and The Last Stand was a multiplayer battle arena, was crazy good and I think is still slightly active to this day?

The only major game after that I sunk my time into was Space Marine, sort of Gears of War-esque but the focus on constantly rushing into combat instead of ducking behind concrete. After that I picked up a couple here and there from bundles, some looking way more grognard then my taste, and some like the mobile games that I don't think I was able to play more then 20 minutes before they crashed. Someone already mentioned the Eisenhorn game, based on their most famous book IP, that was another lovely mobile game. W40K Eternal Crusade, what the gently caress happened there?

If the wiki is right, there were more W40k games released in 2017 and 2018 then games released before 2009 (DoW2)

And then there was Dawn of War 3, which attempted to chase the moba/pro-gaming scene and just turned into utter trash along the way. At least it had a really cool trailer, I guess.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Perestroika posted:

And then there was Dawn of War 3, which attempted to chase the moba/pro-gaming scene and just turned into utter trash on the way. At least it had a really cool trailer, I guess.

I literally blocked that out of my mind. It was loving terrible, like they didn't even understand how to make a moba fun.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Yeah, sounds like the best thing about Dawn of War 3 was that announcement trailer. Which, as far as game announcement trailers go, is probably among the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN8geCTlZOo

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Nothing will be funnier to me than the fact that they had a certified banger on their hands with Last Stand, one they actually spun off into a standalone game and added content to well after launch, and then DoW3 did not have that mode.

FishMcCool
Apr 9, 2021

lolcats are still funny
Fallen Rib
I'm a big fan of 40k Armageddon, which is basically Panzer General but you play the Imperial Guard (and Space Marines in DLC) against the Orks. There's plenty of scenarios to go around, it's all flavoured with lore from a conflict almost as old as 40k itself, and you get to enjoy throwing everything at the greenskins, from conscripts to Titans. There's even a DLC where you get to play as the orks, but I haven't gotten to it yet and the reviews make it sound like it's super lazily balanced, as in you get to use a small core of super orks against hordes of nerfed imperial troops, which is a bit of a shame.

Deathwing is a crying shame. The old DOS Space Hulk was awesome, and that's all they had to redo. Plenty of missions with different maps and squad compositions, new engine: get in there. But no, they had to make it a lovely not-technically-but-actually-mandatory multiplayer game.

I have to get back to BFG2. I loved the presentation around it, like the intro and other cutscenes, but that was before I switched to SSDs, and by the time a mission loaded, it was time to get out of bed and go to work.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Like, I'd legit be cool with a big LS content expansion with more maps and heroes and such even if it were made on the same old DOW2 engine.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

FishMcCool posted:

I'm a big fan of 40k Armageddon, which is basically Panzer General but you play the Imperial Guard (and Space Marines in DLC) against the Orks. There's plenty of scenarios to go around, it's all flavoured with lore from a conflict almost as old as 40k itself, and you get to enjoy throwing everything at the greenskins, from conscripts to Titans. There's even a DLC where you get to play as the orks, but I haven't gotten to it yet and the reviews make it sound like it's super lazily balanced, as in you get to use a small core of super orks against hordes of nerfed imperial troops, which is a bit of a shame.


The core of the game is ok, a shame it has garbage AI and forgetable sound design.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Dawn of War always had banger cinematics. God, I remember when Dawn of War 1 dropped and this was the absolutely sickest poo poo I'd ever seen in a game intro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgXH7eyRo4

Perestroika fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Apr 20, 2022

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

It's disappointing any time a Warhammer game comes out and it focuses on a specific faction. It would be incredibly rad if the 40k xcom game had you playing as some sort of independent mercenaries that recruited units from across all different civilized factions or something, or let you choose a faction from among several at the start and paint your own army. It's baffling that so few Warhammer games go in that direction - the only universally-agreed-to-be-good "choose your own faction" ones I can think of war Total Warhammer, Dawn of War, and Battlefleet Gothic (and that one only has 4? factions).

I personally loved Mordheim for exactly that reason though :kiddo: Several factions each with several unit types available. Recruit them as level 1 chumps with no wargear, level them and your squad up over time until they end up as memorable units with emergent backstories. Plus it hard-enforced ironman permadeath and never let the player have an advantage over their opponents, which I respect. That gave it a level of tension very few games have ever matched. I've been very tempted by the Mordheim-style Necromunda game every time I see it on sale but from what I understand its problems go way deeper than Mordheim's

Battlesector would have been an incredible game if it wasn't 100% about Space Marines and if it had a more sandboxy campaign


Perestroika posted:

Dawn of War always had banger cinematics. God, I remember when Dawn of War 1 dropped and this was the absolutely sickest poo poo I'd ever seen in a game intro.

:agreed:

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Apr 20, 2022

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

dr.acula posted:

I'm patiently waiting for a Warhammer 40k Battlefield game

I'm team Just Make GorkaMorka :orks:

Angry Lobster posted:

The core of the game is ork, :hmmorks:

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

A good number of people seem to like the 40k 4x whose name currently escapes me. I actually think the last few years have been pretty decent for 40k games? Like a lot of 7/10 stuff but enjoyable 7/10s.

Edit: Gladius

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Perestroika posted:

Dawn of War always had banger cinematics. God, I remember when Dawn of War 1 dropped and this was the absolutely sickest poo poo I'd ever seen in a game intro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgXH7eyRo4

AAAAAA

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NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


pentyne posted:

"Good" games as far as a minimum playable enjoyment are

Dawn of War 1&2
Space Marine
Battlefleet Gothic
Inquistor (the diablo-like?)
Space Hulk?

Any I missed? afaik the rest are some low effort ports and/or trash. Some are basically just boardgames adapted directly to a PC UI.

The recent necromunda game by the EyE people was a lot of fun IMO. Plenty of jank but the environments were great and the gameplay was a sort of Doom 2016 hopped up on meth but not as well balanced. Grappling hook is pretty great.

Looks like it's gotten a couple patches since last I checked, I should load it up and do a couple bounties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOt6Nl1K5xU

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