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Runa posted:Yeah this is just what data they managed to gather using an admittedly low-rigor method. For sure, though I have faith in those numbers being mostly good since like, if you're in top 100 in a week's time you're probably logging in (and off) to PvP near exclusively.
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Cicadalek posted:I am so confused that even in Gold there are people in CC who just run away from the point during overtime. Like they're the only person on your team on the point, they take some damage and decide "ooh! I'd better run away and heal...bwuwh? we lost??" With no more context here it sounds like it would’ve been a loss anyway
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Echoing dragoon as a good option to climb with if you’re confident in getting kills. You have such an easy way to delete anyone with just a little bit of cc that the lb is just icing on the cake. Games as samurai felt more frustrating cause there was some reliance on some more burst coming from someone else but with dragoon all the way to diamond it wasn’t as much of an issue. Also people cannot see the dragoon lb circle but everyone still runs from the samurai instinctually when lb is up
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The funniest CC win I had I was playing as SAM as hassled the people in the circle and then started to run away and a bunch of them started to run after me and then a big “You Win” popped up. LMAO.
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Dryzen posted:With no more context here it sounds like it would’ve been a loss anyway You've never won a game from behind during overtime?
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it's possible to win if you're on the backfoot as long as everyone's up and can coordinate a bit. if people are getting picked off one at a time and stratifying their respawns then no, that's a loss.
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In some games of CC the enemy team just decides not to target me ever, and I get free reign to harass. Those are the best games. The other best games are chasing a whm off into a corner and baiting them into a duel that neither of us will win. Well, my team will win because you aren't firing your death laser at them.
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I'm not talking about conga-lining, I'm talking about my bafflement at people being the only thing preventing your team from losing, and then making the decision that makes your team lose instantly.
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Failboattootoot posted:Wonder how long until we start seeing some real pvp changes. Other than the whm bug which I suspect will get fixed next Tuesday, wonder if they think the way things have panned out now is good enough to act on or if they want to wait and see if the meta shifts. At the very least, WHM and WAR need emergency nerfs, and GNB/BLM/RPR need emergency buffs. Doesn't have to be widespread in 6.11, but I would like to see them respond to problem metas quickly if this mode is going to maintain a population.
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Dryzen posted:With no more context here it sounds like it would’ve been a loss anyway 
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HackensackBackpack posted:Ahahahahahahaha lol I went to do Hatchingtide, something that surely I can't screw up and lose at, and I got a DirectX 11000002 error and this:  Today has not been a good day. 
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Roluth posted:At the very least, WHM and WAR need emergency nerfs, and GNB/BLM/RPR need emergency buffs. Doesn't have to be widespread in 6.11, but I would like to see them respond to problem metas quickly if this mode is going to maintain a population. Yeah I'd agree. WHM LB cd needs to go way up and they need to take the aoe stun off primal rend. Not really sure what they could do to fix reaper or gunbreaker honestly, their kits are just... bad. Edit: Actually, buffing the reaper attack that builds stacks from 8k to 12k is probably good enough. Maybe also increase the baseline damage of the stack spender and lower the cd. At least then they could burst about as well as a nin or sam. Maybe even a little better than them, but that seems fair since survivability, cc, and limit break aren't as good as sam or nin. Failboattootoot fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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The other WHM nerf (or Sage buff?) I want is stopping the polymorph from simply deleting the Sage Limit break. That might get me to go back to playing Sage. Right now, just about every opposing team has a WHM, and at higher ranks, most of them know about it and save their Miracle of Nature to use it as soon as you place the LB area. Tamba fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Apr 22, 2022 |
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Yeah the WHM LB cooldown and uncleansable poly are probably the most egregious. I don't actually think WAR is too bad but primal rend losing its aoe stun would make me less irritated so that works for me. I hate aoe caps but maybe make the SMN LB smaller instead. DRG and SAM LBs could use some more visibility - hell, all of them probably could. Although that's maybe because I don't have battle effects on?
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acumen posted:I hate aoe caps but maybe make the SMN LB smaller instead. DRG and SAM LBs could use some more visibility - hell, all of them probably could. Although that's maybe because I don't have battle effects on? I have full PVP effects on, and there's still some big readability issues with certain ults. WHM's ult feels weirdly invisible on the receiving end for being so loving powerful, and the only time I even notice that a DRG is using Skyshatter is usually after my goose's been cooked.
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I always try to keep an eye on the opposing drg when their bar is filled. As soon as I see them empty their bar and go untargetable, I either gtfo or guard up. Problem is getting the rest of the team on the same page.
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Fix the cure bug but don't nerf WHM Buff everyone else up to WHM 
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Glad to see the FGC balance discussion has finally come to FFXIV PvP.
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I tried playing some classes I hadn't tried out yet in casual and man even if they aren't ~overpowered~ SMN, MCH, and especially MNK are super fun. The MNK combo of Enlightenment > Thunderclap > Meteostrike has finally dethroned the GNB 3-minute burst as my Favorite poo poo In The Game
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(something like 40 collective hours later) it's just that easy
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Having started at the tail end of the 5.x series the 6.1 patch is my first taste of 'no no you don't understand how much worse it was' thanks to the addition of auto target select for controller actions. How did anyone play this poo poo at all on release. Also sparing a thought for people who will never experience forgetting to turn their speakers down before HOOOOOOMMMMMME
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Vitamean posted:(something like 40 collective hours later) it's just that easy I have to say a 100-streak run is fuckin' amazing.
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That is insane. PvP god.
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i might be mistaken but i think that means they earned 100 points in Crystal while being on a win streak, not that they were on a 100 game winstreak. Crystal uses a different rank system than bronze-diamond and uses points instead of the stars.
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Countblanc posted:i might be mistaken but i think that means they earned 100 points in Crystal while being on a win streak, not that they were on a 100 game winstreak. Crystal uses a different rank system than bronze-diamond and uses points instead of the stars. Oooh. Okay. I was going to say.
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Vitamean posted:(something like 40 collective hours later) it's just that easy the gently caress
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ImpAtom posted:Oooh. Okay. I was going to say. gonna be real I thought you were joking and didn't wanna ruin it
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I refuse to play anything but MCH, mostly because MCH is fairly approachable and never not welcome. It's only got two problems: A: being all burst damage in an AoE-heavy meta means that you'll never be the sole cause for victory. B: Bioblaster's presence as a short-range AoE in a combo that's otherwise long-range single-targets is ugly and unhelpful where it is, even if the AoE Heavy is good. People complain I should just be in the casual queue if I'm here for the rewards. I say if you think you're better than me, then the ranked queue shouldn't be putting you in range of my sniper rifle.
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being the guy to bring a gun to the sword fight was always a funny enough idea to me that im in to it regardless of current balance. see also: shooting gods in the face ill allso always prefer someone who enjoys their class and knows it real well because theyre better in clutch then someone who's been playing fotm for two days and folds when a fight doesnt go perfectly. doesnt matter if its pve or pvp.
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The one thing CC needs is a giant countdown to round end centerscreen lol Maybe at like 5 seconds left, maybe 10
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Vitamean posted:the casual match queue is a trap imo I mean, it always is. If you make both casual and ranked available from the start for everyone, casual is going to be more unfair because it's the thing that doesn't apply any MMR (or has less players to a degree that MMR ranks fold in on each other). You see it all the time in fighting games; you queue ranked if you want to see people on your skill level and accept that 'your skill level' might be a Laura that knows exactly one move, you queue casual if you want to play against Literal Real-Life Akuma. Using casual as a prereq like Dota and League do is marginally better, but only in the sense that then everyone understands that it's just day care until you unlock ranked.
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All matchmaking uses MMR. The difference is that casual won’t be as strict about equal mmr within a team. Only making sure the two teams are roughly balanced against eachother. Even if both sides have a single crystal player and 4 bronze.
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Get in, loser, we're going magiteking. 
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HackensackBackpack posted:Get in, loser, we're going magiteking.  I can't seem to find anything telling me how long the Garo event goes for? I want all the mounts but Frontline games take forever
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Where/how do you get the Nero car, anyway? I must have missed something.
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Antivehicular posted:Where/how do you get the Nero car, anyway? I must have missed something. FFXIVCollect says it comes from the Lv90 18-hour venture for combat job retainers.
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kung fu jive posted:
they havent announced an end date. it will probably be a pretty long time
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Super No Vacancy posted:they havent announced an end date. it will probably be a pretty long time Yeah, the wiki suggests that it ran for two and a half years last time.
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