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wdarkk posted:drat that looks good, PHR looking Chris Foss as gently caress. Thank you! I love the work of Chris Foss and how he inspired the art style of the Homeworld games (who doesn't?) so I'm happy that my meagre attempts to try making stripes for the first time look good. I knew from the first time I saw the PHR ships that I had to find the boldest colour I could to paint them in  Loxbourne posted:Those UCM hangar bays are superb! Can you share the paint mix you used on the interiors? Certainly  Let's see, I base coated everything in white (ceramite white or white scar) then made a light blue wash out of temple guard blue to three parts water. Citadel paints are very vibrant so I find they keep their colour even when watered down into a wash. I then went round the rim with pure white (white scar) once I'd inkwashed the outer hull with nuln oil to clean it up and make the transition standout. Hope that helps. I was pretty much trying to replicate the lighting effect you would see on the carrier ships in the Homeworld games where the interior lighting is blown out compared to the relative darkness of space outside.
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Is there a TTS discord or group for DFC? I'd like to give it a shot sometime but I'm pretty averse to in person stuff.
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Tulip posted:Is there a TTS discord or group for DFC? I'd like to give it a shot sometime but I'm pretty averse to in person stuff. https://discord.gg/Yb7eYDEhKq https://discord.gg/CG4R7gEe One of those probably works. I'm still banned for arguing with the owner of TT, so I can't check. (and Louis is still an unfunny rear end in a top hat and a liar) The discord is the best place to discuss the game I ever found. There's a mostly dormant thread on dakka, an slightly more active subreddit, a few blogs scattered about... and there's an FB group but it's a hugbox that liberally deletes anything too negative about the game and the admins are an insular gaggle of fuckers and TT employees, or both! Other than those places, I haven't seen hide nor hair of the game being discussed online in recent years. Slyphic fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Mar 29, 2022 |
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Slyphic posted:https://discord.gg/Yb7eYDEhKq thank you very much!
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Nice spaceships! I have about half of my Shaltari built, primed and sat in a box. The hobby guilt is real. In other news, new behemoth bits teaser.. If they are painting it, then a release must actually be getting relatively close....
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They might have changed what weapons the behemoths will have, that Scourge gun with the pustule things looks like the bio-artillery on one of the crabs but the book mentions either a giant plasma gun or an electric weapon. Unless those blobs are just generic Scourge decorative effects now.
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Sojenus posted:They might have changed what weapons the behemoths will have, that Scourge gun with the pustule things looks like the bio-artillery on one of the crabs but the book mentions either a giant plasma gun or an electric weapon. Unless those blobs are just generic Scourge decorative effects now. I'm betting new weapons. It's been sooooooo long, they had ample time to tinker with the renders. From the beta rules 'leak', the Scourge Behemoth had Energy Cyclone Projector + Heavy Plasma Cannons or Arc Maw + Arc Lances on the top half of the model, and Seeker Lashes/Surging Lashes on the bottom. First pic is almost certainly the Arc Lances. But I'm not seeing any of the other weapons in that last picture. Plus, TTC loves to 'tease' stuff like that. I'm excited for them to get Behemoths out of their system so they can move on to cool stuff like factional command cards or DFC factional launch assets that won't ruin the game. And I'll eat my hat if Behemoths aren't a broken mess. The Harpocrates, Parasite, Arrowhead, Patton and Flail should be ample evidence they have no real clue how to design for these game, and aren't testing poo poo at all.
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Slyphic posted:First pic is almost certainly the Arc Lances. But I'm not seeing any of the other weapons in that last picture. Plus, TTC loves to 'tease' stuff like that. Looks like heavy plasma cannons in the picture too. It does kind of camouflage into the paint bottles!
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A tale in two pictures:  There's a 5 minute difference between when I received those two e-mails.
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PHR behemoth stats are mostly out - https://community.ttcombat.com/2022/04/21/the-chronus-walks-forth/ It doesn't look all that different from the beta unit that leaked.  Which is a really bad sign. The playtesters from back when TTC had them said they were horribly unbalancing to the game, unfun to play with, and just generally did not work in Dropzone. Well poo poo. Also, guess TTC were lying when they said, back when the beta stats leaked, that the release stats would be substantially different.
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I've always been viewing them as collectors prices. It's like titans in 40k, impressive models, but in no way practiable.
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Grey Hunter posted:I've always been viewing them as collectors prices. It's like titans in 40k, impressive models, but in no way practiable. Which is an approach I'd be fine with. Or tie them to scenarios, 'Sink the Bismark'. But from all sources, TT has been adamantly intent on cramming them into the regular game, no matter how much it distorts the rest of the units. The playtest group said the only workable solution they found was to do something like 40k Apocalypse, where you scale formations up and make it a separate game mode.
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Wasn't the laser version fairly different? Direct and area alt attacks, and no overcharge or nanomachine abilities from what I remember.
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Given that it is 500pts, can't play any objective game, can't hold your commander or have command cards played on it and may not be on the board turn 1, it does need to pack enough punch to make its cost back. I'm still on the fence about them. It's the sort of big attention grabber that might actually inspire some people to give the game a go. So long as they don't dominate the meta I'm fine with that. What I don't want to see is the average game turn into 2000 points or more and just add these things on top of a regular army.
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Kingsly Distribution has the prices up already. £95 MSRP That's not a price that entices people into a game. These things are solidly for the whales.
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Slyphic posted:Kingsly Distribution has the prices up already. That's about twice most Dreadnoughts, which I always considered a pretty decent value for an army centerpiece.
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wdarkk posted:That's about twice most Dreadnoughts, which I always considered a pretty decent value for an army centerpiece. £95 is the price of a starter, armor expansion box, and at least two more blisters of units. I'm not going to say I expected better of them, because I don't at this point, but I'm still rather disappointed. For once, they're claiming they actually playtested these units (I refuse to believe they ever actually tried to use a Flail in a real game) so this represents the height of their abilities as game designers. 90% chance of DZC game this weekend, and we're definitely proxying one or more of these bastards, because there's novelty in marveling at a dumpster fire before walking away.
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It's a higher price point than I hoped, but not surprised. I was thinking it would be close to a hundred than fifty. Probably cheaper than GW would have charged and they probably don't expect to sell them by the hundred. And there's the fact that the cost of everything is soaring so stuff just costs more than it did two years ago. I dunno, it may be that they are too big and expensive for most players to bother with and they end up being a rarity anyway.
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Scourge stuff is up - https://community.ttcombat.com/2022/04/22/scourge-behemoth-sighted/ I hate Focus. It's pointless extraneous dice rolling and doesn't make sense within the context of all the weapons in the game that fire more than one round but have a high Energy value. You know what outcome you want when you pick a target, figuring out the optimal energy to shots ratio is some boring probability work. But this is from the guy who unironically redesigned the Napoleon to roll more dice because that would make it more fun. A 13 seems like a mistake. The armor drop, despite Resilient, on my big crabs has seen them dying much earlier in games. This thing is going to get worked like a speed bag. Hell, I've had a group of 6 Ronin kill an undamaged Oppressor in one volley on turn 2 TWICE in the last 4 months. And as little as I respect TTC's design team, I never actually expected them to not give something like the Crocodile Dev-X(Behemoths) but after reading that article... whoo boy. Fingers crossed it's just Lewis forgetting how to play his own game or something. They can't be that incompetent, can they? Can they?
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Well first retailer I've seen to list Behemoths is Goblin Gaming for £80.75. I'm guessing the smaller behemoth class, whenever they happen, are going to end up around £40-50. Guess time will tell how often they see the table. On focus, last time I played I had a Hades and a Nemesis alpha striked off the table on consecutive turns by a squad of scourge gunships. It was kinda broken.
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Ugleb posted:On focus, last time I played I had a Hades and a Nemesis alpha striked off the table on consecutive turns by a squad of scourge gunships. It was kinda broken. 3 out of the last 4 games we've played, a Frostdrake has one-shot a Hades on turn 2. In one game, it got a Hades AND a nemesis by turn 3. Really the Type-4s have, and the Scourge big crab walkers, have largely failed to impress. Especially the Type-4s because of the cost of transportation plus there's no longer a Heavies only BG, so they have this standard unit tax attached. All the Force Org changes since launch have been bad ones.
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We had a game scheduled for the weekend before TTC even started hyping Behemoths, so we made a last minute force tweak and tried one out in a game. https://yadzcb.friestman.net/behemoths-released.html Lotta words and pics.
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The correct method for determining the range of the explosion was to open the tin, heat it with kernels inside, and inflict the E10 hits where the popcorn lands. Seems like the drop harness damage set off the rapid downward cascade for it, wonder how it would have played out if it walked on or dropped onto less units instead?
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Sojenus posted:Seems like the drop harness damage set off the rapid downward cascade for it, wonder how it would have played out if it walked on or dropped onto less units instead? We'd maybe try one more proxy of another faction's, just to compare. Eh, we're more concerned with fixing the core rules to work better with the units we actually have and play with.
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I rather like those. The 32mm Scourge obviously begs the question are TTCombat still considering Dropverse skirmish game, or is it just a cool thing?
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Only related, but TTC have got themselves into a good ol' fashion internet slap fight. Easy reading links here -> https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3849301&pagenumber=866 I seriously wonder if all the angry ex-Hawk employees went through something similar when TTC bought them out. It would explain a lot. I'm still giggling over: Justin, owner Secret Weapon Games posted:Mr. Simpson [owner of TTC] opens his public statement by saying that he has not read the statements that he is responding to. That’s a weird flex, but I guess it was too difficult for him to read, so away we go…
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That’s very unfortunate. I’ve always felt a little wary of TTC since the push to using their web system for everything.
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There's a huge amount of he said she said in this. I suspect both sides have made mistakes but some things line up. I have suspected for awhile that TTCombat were working on launching their own paint line, the spray primer colours and brushes just felt like they were building to it. Buying up Secret Weapon to achieve that makes sense. Also having a stronger USA presence makes a lot of sense, turning Secret Weapon into the core of their North America division would also make sense. Why that is apparently falling through? Dunno. I have always disliked how they marketed the transition of acquiring Hawk. They never missed an opportunity to blame any delays or issues getting Dropzone/fleet going again on the defunct Hawk operation and paint themselves as the cavalry sweeping in to make good. Does that go so far as validating this trainwreck? I honestly dunno. I've had very little interaction with their staff to get a read on them.
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Ugleb posted:There's a huge amount of he said she said in this. I suspect both sides have made mistakes but some things line up. TTC coming out with a personal insult in their response, which they published on their website, was some seriously amateur hour poo poo. Ugleb posted:I've had very little interaction with their staff to get a read on them.
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quote:The Troll Trader stream is having a special guest tomorrow. The Creator of the Drop-Universe, Dave Lewis will be painting up a tank from the Space Halfling Kickstarter and answering your questions. Rough list: What's the internal meta like? Quick Battle Report of the last game you played or saw played at TTC? How are y'all using Polecat Buggies, I can't tell what niche they're supposed to fill? I can't figure out how to use the Flail effectively, what am I doing wrong? When will PHR get mixed walker squads back? Why does the Circe skimmer not get the Devastator bonus against walkers? How does the Constantine tank work, narratively? What's it doing with the orange shield thing on the turret? Why do Bomb Buses have to pause an entire turn to blow up, and why can't they damage buildings? Do Ronin have Resilient or not, we can't tell because the builder and cards say different things?
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Shame it'll be at 4:30 in the morning here, I'll never get to ask him how snuggly Pungari are. Edit: For a serious question, something I'd be curious to hear from him is thoughts on the expansion in scale of the narrative. The background initially focused on a handful of worlds, but there's small mentions now suggesting interactions with a neighboring galaxy, which is a massive jump in scale. Keeping the UCM particularly relevant in a broadening universe seems a narrative challenge. I don't think getting too specific with game mechanic questions will get much, but it would be interesting to hear the degree of control and influence he has over them now. Sojenus fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Dave, gushing behind the studio Shaltari Behemoth. (Which came out BTW) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOeEF6ev7hk I hope between this video, the twitch stream, and the PHR PDF, we're at the dawn of the third era of Dropzone with Dave back championing the game.
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A bit of passion for the game has been missing from TTCombat for sure. It has felt like that they are maintaing the game but not pushing it. I'll probably never own one of those, but if I did I would want it climbing over something with a base that acts as a spread template. Then pray that they never change it. I think it is crying out for a pose that uses the articulation. What PHR PDF?
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Ugleb posted:What PHR PDF? Dave made a blog post about building and painting his own personal PHR behemoth model which for some inexplicable reason is a PDF. I haven't done much of anything with zone in months now, but we've been getting in games of Fleet. Finally scored one of the sets of expansion monorail track TrollTrader has been auctioning on eBay for sufficiently cheap to be excited about it. Did you know the pieces use weird cast chunks of metal for bases?
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