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Deuce posted:Actually threatening the structure of the earth is ludicrously off the scale of nuclear weapon yields.
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Well, upsetting the mantle would take a hefty blow, but for comparison, the Chicxulub event has been estimated to have been around 70 teratons, which is only what, five orders of magnitude from the theoretical yield of Tsar Bomba? But again, constructing one of these babies is very much in the realm of theory. Until someone tries  I don't think anyone has been suggesting that current ICBMs could be used to literally crack the Earth.
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“only five orders of magnitude”
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what if you made one of these wider and then drop some all the way down there? probably mild quakes if anything, i mean its a fuckin lot of rock to move so wed notice up here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
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I wonder if the US could weaponize California and just dump that baby into the ocean with a suitable chain of underground bombs along the fault line? Although I guess the enormous waves would have to cross the entire Pacific, so a lot of the energy would be wasted 
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Apr 22, 2022 08:03
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I don't think California has the right kinds of faults for that so instead it'd probably just vibrate a bunch and make an annoying sound / kill everyone.
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Whatever man. If you don't think building a multi-stage thermonuclear device that's got fuckoff yield to spray some continental plates into the atmosphere is tight AF, then IDK what to tell you. I guess we're not on the same page about this whole "NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST NOW" thing, braj.
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Apr 22, 2022 08:35
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:I don't think California has the right kinds of faults for that so instead it'd probably just vibrate a bunch and make an annoying sound / kill everyone. A cursory search indicates California has a large number of faults. Mister Speaker posted:Whatever man. If you don't think building a multi-stage thermonuclear device that's got fuckoff yield to spray some continental plates into the atmosphere is tight AF, then IDK what to tell you. I guess we're not on the same page about this whole "NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST NOW" thing, braj.
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Yeah it's got plenty, I think they're mostly slip faults that just go back and forth instead of anything neat like subduction. Anyway I'm not a geologist so maybe someone else could come up with a good place to put the supernuke so it works?
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:Yeah it's got plenty, I think they're mostly slip faults that just go back and forth instead of anything neat like subduction. Anyway I'm not a geologist so maybe someone else could come up with a good place to put the supernuke so it works? Juan de Fuca plate and Cascadian subduction zone off the west coast. If there was a major full margin slip and earthquake it uh... could basically make costal cities from Vancouver Island to southern Oregon/northern Califonia (along with most of the coast) simply slide into the ocean due to liquefaction of the uppermost parts of the subsurface. Likely trigger a few smaller faults to reactivate and probably a monster tsunami since that whole coast a tectonic mash-up and the main faults are like 100 miles off shore.
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Sounds like we should put the petanuke there then. Oh also I'm an idiot and thought we were trying to get California to go under another plate, not just make a big splash so yeah, let me know how I can help. Maybe donate a smoke detector or two? Won't need it when we're done it sounds like. Stanley Goodspeed fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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yellowstone seems like the evil genius sorta spot? could a nuke kick off a seismic event that would otherwise take another 100k years to naturally occur?
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No_talent posted:Juan de Fuca plate and Cascadian subduction zone off the west coast. If there was a major full margin slip and earthquake it uh... could basically make costal cities from Vancouver Island to southern Oregon/northern Califonia (along with most of the coast) simply slide into the ocean due to liquefaction of the uppermost parts of the subsurface. Likely trigger a few smaller faults to reactivate and probably a monster tsunami since that whole coast a tectonic mash-up and the main faults are like 100 miles off shore. So what you're telling me is that Lex Luthor could absolutely have succeeded?
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:Yeah it's got plenty, I think they're mostly slip faults that just go back and forth instead of anything neat like subduction. Anyway I'm not a geologist so maybe someone else could come up with a good place to put the supernuke so it works? I was mostly referring to the road network, general lack of low income transportation and the guy who stole my parking spot in West Hollywood five years ago but yeah those too.
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Sleekly posted:yellowstone seems like the evil genius sorta spot? This is probably the right answer, but I'd like to wipe out the west coast more.
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This all sounds very similar to the plot of A View to a Kill, where a crazed nazi-adjacent bad guy with strong Musk-vibes attempts to set of a huge explosion in the San Andreas fault line to kill Silicon Valley and then make a mega profit.
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I think someone mentioned it already but isn't that also basically Lex Luthor's plan in one of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies? Except it's about pumping 'new coastal' real estate or something.
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Mister Speaker posted:I think someone mentioned it already but isn't that also basically Lex Luthor's plan in one of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies? Except it's about pumping 'new coastal' real estate or something. Yup, new West Coast with all new cities. No reason why anyone would want to move there though.
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In a world where Jeff Bezos exists, I'm not convinced we can argue that Lex's plan would be considered a bridge too far. And Lex has a better hair-cut, too.
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I never noticed "Tesmacher Peaks" before. Heh.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEl7A7KaHA
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In 1957 the Soviets simply could not attack the continental US with atomic weapons. We could do it to them, they couldn't do it to us.
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Clancychat: Immanentizing the Discussion
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Is a wider war involving Transnistria, Moldova and maybe Romania still "clanychat" or is that moving more toward reality?
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TipTow posted:Is a wider war involving Transnistria, Moldova and maybe Romania still "clanychat" or is that moving more toward reality? Only if they have nuclear weapons sufficient to launch a chunk of crust exactly in the shape of Moldova into orbit.
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DrSunshine posted:Only if they have nuclear weapons sufficient to launch a chunk of crust exactly in the shape of Moldova into orbit. Narrator: they do
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Breaking: Moldovia joins the ISS
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Does Moldova have any security agreements with the EU?
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Comstar posted:Does Moldova have any security agreements with the EU? No, but they signed the same treaty Georgia and Ukraine (woops) did, and are being assessed for membership as of this year's fun war.
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PeterCat posted:Yup, new West Coast with all new cities. No reason why anyone would want to move there though. No reason? But it's beachfront property!
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Interesting, hope we don't have to find out the hard way. https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1520180155351814144 https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1520180207805734913
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So they're saying NATO could get away with the no-fly zone over Ukraine? 
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It doesn’t matter if the majority of their arsenal doesn’t work, they’re well aware they really only need the threat of 1 nuke to make any direct confrontation impossibly risky.
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Deptfordx posted:No reason? But it's beachfront property! But would it even be a beach at that point or just a bunch of really craggy rocks?
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Charlz Guybon posted:Interesting, hope we don't have to find out the hard way. having this poo poo even remotely near the donut of acceptable discourse is absolutely disgusting Lyesh fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Apr 30, 2022 |
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Mister Speaker posted:I think someone mentioned it already but isn't that also basically Lex Luthor's plan in one of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies? Except it's about pumping 'new coastal' real estate or something. There have been a dozen "California breaks off into the ocean" movies, because Hollywood loves writing about itself. Most of those movies didn't need nukes to make it happen though.
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Yeah but if they launch three nukes and only one of them works my first thought is going to be 'Was that the best they got? Do the actually have any left?' If that tweet is half accurate and I was a hawk I'd be temped to do drop something on all the oligarchs holiday houses and open up a 'surrender and we'll let you live, dickheads' offer. E: nuking your own country's coastline killing millions of people for the sake of a fygm property value hike is an aggressively mediocre and very on point for 2022 option. Outrail fucked around with this message at 00:53 on May 1, 2022 |
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Outrail posted:Yeah but if they launch three nukes and only one of them works my first thought is going to be 'Was that the best they got? Do the actually have any left?' there are very serious people in uniform been saying this for a long time. many such cases! like ok even if we buy the propagnada and Rus tries and fails to do it, and the US then retaliates as per the gospel...would that not be the best time for a Chinese or even Israeli series of strikes?
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Sleekly posted:there are very serious people in uniform been saying this for a long time. many such cases! Obviously this depends on Israel and China not believing they were under attack, but it's not in their interest to try poo poo if they wake up to Russia being a nuclear wasteland.
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Lyesh posted:having this poo poo even remotely near the donut of acceptable discourse is absolutely disgusting Does that mean talking directly about an issue is off the table?
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