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Steve Yun posted:
Also Raccatouille is in there too.
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Apr 20, 2022 21:01
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I want that poster.
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Apr 20, 2022 21:44
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Finally gunna go see this on Saturday, pretty stoked.
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Apr 20, 2022 22:30
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Some of the quirkier aspects of this didn't land for me, but I still really enjoyed this movie. Felt like what I imagine seeing The Matrix in 1999 was like.
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Apr 20, 2022 23:53
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I really enjoy that they have to do something uncomfortable to branch into another universe, like anytime you commit to a new experience it's awkward and uncomfortable but it might pay off... And it's implied that OG Evelyn was unique because she was so apathetic about life, and never pushed outside of where her life just wandered. I'm glad this movie was so loving weird, but also terribly honest about life.
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Apr 21, 2022 00:10
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killer crane posted:I really enjoy that they have to do something uncomfortable to branch into another universe, like anytime you commit to a new experience it's awkward and uncomfortable but it might pay off... And it's implied that OG Evelyn was unique because she was so apathetic about life, and never pushed outside of where her life just wandered. I'm glad this movie was so loving weird, but also terribly honest about life. Oh yeah I think I realized Evelyn stabbing Waymond is actually one of those triggers.
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Android Apocalypse posted:NPR's Code Switch podcast has an interesting episode on Everything Everywhere All At Once. Gave this a listen and was pretty good. However I felt the generational differences when they said, “ Well fam, this movie gives off posi vibes without the cringe.” But of course this movie teaches me empathy instead of yelling at kids.
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Apr 21, 2022 20:46
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The kids are wrong
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Apr 21, 2022 20:51
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you shouldn't be mean to kids, you should simply own a pitbull and let god sort it out
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Apr 21, 2022 20:57
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The Batman Begins approach.
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Apr 21, 2022 21:01
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This movie did show how ineffective tiny dogs are.
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Apr 21, 2022 21:57
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Saw it with my friends who have two Pomeranians and really enjoyed the melodramatic gasping during that scene.
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Apr 21, 2022 21:59
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I wonder how A24 normally makes money. This one is passing 20 million and getting close to its initial cost, ignoring marketing and all that. But a lot of their films make much less.
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Apr 23, 2022 02:45
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checkplease posted:I wonder how A24 normally makes money. This one is passing 20 million and getting close to its initial cost, ignoring marketing and all that. But a lot of their films make much less. I imagine they get a good amount of money from streaming deals and blu-ray sales.
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Apr 23, 2022 02:58
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A lot of their films are very very cheap, so you don't need that many movies like Moonlight which take in $65 million to fund movies that only cost $2-$10 million.
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Apr 23, 2022 03:11
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Gotta be easier to make money on DVD/Streaming when you ain't lighting hundreds of millions on fire for every release too.
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Apr 23, 2022 03:15
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They just close their eyes and smile while realizing that money is a meaningless and fake idea.
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Apr 23, 2022 03:16
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Tight control of budget ($25m) and making michel Gondry style home-made special effects into an aesthetic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFFopPPrGiE
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Apr 23, 2022 03:53
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Steve Yun posted:Tight control of budget ($25m) and making michel Gondry style home-made special effects into an aesthetic Holy poo poo! I'm blown away that five people did all the visual effects.
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Apr 23, 2022 18:28
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I like the reading emphasizing the bagel as a quintessentially American food, but also think it's kind of an rear end in a top hat? Like the "butt plug" is introduced as a symbol of achievement, but its form (and the auditor's attitude) undercuts our ability to be impressed by the successes it represents -- so we're kind of cast into the perspective of Joy, who has "stopped valuing achievement" insofar as she has no hopes for her personal prospects for success (though her nihilism is sort of indistinguishable from self-loathing for most of the movie). So Joy has turned away from success (the butt plug) and towards the rear end in a top hat ("we're all poo poo"). The plug-and-bagel also kinda scan as an analized lingam-yoni pairing, so there might be some creation-destruction in there alongside the success-abjection motifs.
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Apr 24, 2022 00:44
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Bagels aren't quintessentially American.
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Apr 24, 2022 00:57
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There’s what the New York bagel and the Montreal bagel. America has a strong claim to bagels now after all these years.
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Apr 24, 2022 00:59
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Counterpoint: yes they are, but also, who cares
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Apr 24, 2022 01:00
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mmmmalo posted:I like the reading emphasizing the bagel as a quintessentially American food, but also think it's kind of an rear end in a top hat? Like the "butt plug" is introduced as a symbol of achievement, but its form (and the auditor's attitude) undercuts our ability to be impressed by the successes it represents -- so we're kind of cast into the perspective of Joy, who has "stopped valuing achievement" insofar as she has no hopes for her personal prospects for success (though her nihilism is sort of indistinguishable from self-loathing for most of the movie). So Joy has turned away from success (the butt plug) and towards the rear end in a top hat ("we're all poo poo"). I dunno about it being American Butttt When Joy introduces the bagel to Evelyn, she makes her do the hand joke that’s supposed to be a butthole
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Gaius Marius posted:Bagels aren't quintessentially American. Okay maybe not "American" per se but I think Bust Rodd connecting bagels as a Western thing to Joy's diminishing Chinese language skills has some teeth to it, when Gong-Gong, who raised the complaint ends up having the firmest stance against the "chaos" of the everything bagel Edit: Western bagel also kind of meshes with the bagel-as-rear end in a top hat since Evelyn marks the decision to follow Raymond to America as the point where her life went to poo poo mmmmalo fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Apr 24, 2022 |
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Apr 24, 2022 01:21
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Having an interpretation based on Joy losing touch with their culture that's based on you stripping the Bagel of it's own cultural connection and origin is ironic and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Apr 24, 2022 01:24
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Irony granted, but even with the bagel originating in Jewish communities in Poland (or maybe a little further southeast? One article brought up the east Mediterranean as a possible site) I think Evelyn's fear that her Joy (her daughter AND her personal happiness) has been stolen by a chaos demon resonates with hints that Evelyn regards the decay in her life as a symptom of coming to America -- I'd even wager the cycling washing machines are more bagels, in that regard.
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Apr 24, 2022 01:43
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They should have made it truly American having it be a black pizza
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Apr 24, 2022 01:51
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The modern bagel came from migrating polish Jewish bakers to New York. The label and common style was popularized in New York. It’s at least a nice symbol of the success of immigration in America
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Apr 24, 2022 01:53
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Steve Yun posted:They should have made it truly American having it be a black pizza But that exists in Asia? https://twitter.com/katetrue27/status/1315863461419577345?t=dgazSiO5gm_eb9J8LPfY1A&s=19
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I’m not so sure the bagel works as a symbol of western culture or immigrant success because Evelyn has to turn Joy away from the bagel at the end and embrace the fact that her daughter is westernized and gay. Evelyn turning Joy away from the nihilism of the bagel seems to be at odds with the bagel being a symbol of western culture.
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Apr 24, 2022 02:14
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That's fair... the America reading works as long as you focalize Evelyn and her fears, but it falls apart for Joy. Abjection means something else to her.
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Apr 24, 2022 02:30
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For a movie with some really beautiful readings on immigrant experiences in America/ the west it’s really weird to do the bagel is america reading imo
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Apr 24, 2022 03:07
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I read the bagel thing as a nihilistic "who cares what I call this thing because it's meaningless, so I'll just make it a dumb joke" kinda thing
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Apr 24, 2022 03:17
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Steve Yun posted:I’m not so sure the bagel works as a symbol of western culture or immigrant success because Evelyn has to turn Joy away from the bagel at the end and embrace the fact that her daughter is westernized and gay. Evelyn turning Joy away from the nihilism of the bagel seems to be at odds with the bagel being a symbol of western culture. Yes thanks I was about to make this post. It represents despair/hopelessness/nothingness, it's something she has to be saved from to save her life, not from Evelyn's perspective but from the movie's perspective. That would be a real loving weird message for this movie and also just not in line with what actually happens.
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Apr 24, 2022 03:21
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A symbol or theme doesn't have to perfectly valid from every interpretive angle to be valid from some angles.
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Apr 24, 2022 03:26
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Maybe bagels are just good and we can understand how evil a bad one is.
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Apr 24, 2022 03:29
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Organza Quiz posted:Yes thanks I was about to make this post. It represents despair/hopelessness/nothingness, it's something she has to be saved from to save her life, not from Evelyn's perspective but from the movie's perspective. That would be a real loving weird message for this movie and also just not in line with what actually happens. I'm just pointing out that Evelyn seems to blame her own despair/abjection not only on her husband, but on the place they moved together, America. You also kind of see her attitude in the differences between the parallel worlds: she exults in the sleek kung fu action stardom of Hong Kong and is repulsed by the lesbian hotdog finger life in the States. But as the movie goes on, she's able to cool her idealization of her potential lives overseas (eg the pinky kung fu introducing some overt silliness) and recognize the dignity within her goofy nightmare vision of America (eg feet piano).
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a perfect film
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