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Oasx posted:So far I don't understand the point of the plotline featuring that girl with the bad haircut. Yeah I'm kinda tuning that whole part out at this point, just give me more spartans murking aliens. I've been taking an edible before watching each episode, and while my judgement may be impaired, I truly feel like I'm watching a pretty corny show, but hey I'm still watching after 4 episodes so maybe they have me hooked.
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Yeah it would be nice if they would tie her story into the main story or give us a reason to care sooner than later because I don't give a poo poo about some girl who thinks she can magically defeat the USNC with hopes and dreams.
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Apr 23, 2022 07:07
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Apr 23, 2022 07:30
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I've always found the way Asians smoke cigarettes hilarious. They do this weird wrist/finger thing that makes it look like they've never done it before.
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Apr 23, 2022 12:03
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Oasx posted:I will once again recommend The Night Of for more John Turturro goodness. Man, the first two episodes of that show were amazing. Shame the show went in a direction that was totally different to what people wanted
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Apr 23, 2022 12:06
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Looten Plunder posted:Man, the first two episodes of that show were amazing. Shame the show went in a direction that was totally different to what people wanted i remember enjoying the whole thing pretty much. i suppose the direction you mean is that he might have actually been a murderer after all? because i thought his prison experience of hardening despite (as far as we know) being innocent, and the struggle to keep his appearance of innocence up, was good. i don't remember the show that well, though. it was the first big john turturro vehicle i'd seen, i remember liking him, and riz ahmed, but overall that it was y'know, b or b+ sort of quality.
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Apr 23, 2022 13:53
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Nah, The Night Of absolutely lost a mass of brain cells as it went along and the plot and script got more ridiculous and stupid. The final episode is a masterclass in the dumbest way to end a miniseries, its kinda magnificant.
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Apr 23, 2022 14:12
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I agree that it fell apart, but man that first episode was magnificent. The utter stress and tension of him sitting a few feet away from the door KNOWING that he's just a search away from them discovering the murder weapon and weighing up running against the slim chance they just let him go because they haven't figured out the connection between him and the murder yet was incredible.
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Apr 23, 2022 14:58
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Apr 23, 2022 14:58
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I've bounced off of three shows recently. I'm not getting into the direction Russian Dolls is going after 2 eps. Moon Knight has bored me to exaggerated tears. And For All Mankind just isn't my thing. I can see why people like it. It's REALLY well done, but after watching the first episode and waiting for the pull, I just scanned the season trailers and went "maybe not my thing". Basically, I need more Severances in my life.
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Apr 23, 2022 15:15
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An Ounce of Gold posted:I've bounced off of three shows recently. Your tastes sound eerily similar to mine... Check out From, if you haven't already.
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Apr 23, 2022 15:17
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I am curious to know how you guys think The Night Of fell apart, I thought it was pretty consistently great, but I also found the Turturro part to be best part of the series by far, and on my latest re-watch I skipped all the prison stuff.
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Apr 23, 2022 15:42
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An Ounce of Gold posted:I've bounced off of three shows recently. They really hosed up the second episode of Russian doll. There had to have been a better way to do that, but it immediately gets better.
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Apr 23, 2022 15:49
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Mu Zeta posted:Yeah the itchy stuff was very odd. Not even Quentin Tarrantino could get off to that. https://twitter.com/Danzilla93_GNP/status/1506625874489233409?s=20&t=Ibw1sZLtPQ33Z4fmyFdSVw
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Apr 23, 2022 17:26
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THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.... https://youtu.be/i8kD3iOVaSs
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Apr 23, 2022 18:09
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An Ounce of Gold posted:I've bounced off of three shows recently. For All Mankind gets good in episode 3. The first two kind of suck but they bring in new characters and it gets interesting.
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Apr 23, 2022 18:41
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Mu Zeta posted:For All Mankind gets good in episode 3. The first two kind of suck but they bring in new characters and it gets interesting. Yeah and once it gets going it gets so so good.
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Apr 23, 2022 19:07
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Out of all of those of recommend giving for all man kind another shot
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Yeah, the "give it 3 episodes" rule applies to FAM Parts of S2 were slow but it's still so drat good.
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Apr 23, 2022 20:46
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Shageletic posted:Nah, The Night Of absolutely lost a mass of brain cells as it went along and the plot and script got more ridiculous and stupid. The final episode is a masterclass in the dumbest way to end a miniseries, its kinda magnificant. Did it top The Killing? That has always been the go to for a show that came out on fire and perfect that then dove deep into garbage territory including a requisite mid 2010s "this brown person is suspicious OR ARE THEY"?
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Apr 23, 2022 21:24
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I'm rewatching FAM and after ep two, it really ramps up the pace.
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Apr 23, 2022 21:56
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I’ve finally managed to tear myself away from my compulsive rewatching of our flag means death to watch Russian Doll and like it so far. Natasha Lyonne is great but now that loving song is stuck in my head
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I finished Russian Doll S2 tonight, and it was pretty nuts. No idea if they are going to go for a third season or not. Seems like there could be room for it, but it also tied up a bunch of loose ends and could just end there. I guess I'll never know because I'm cancelling Netflix after I watch Ozark on the 29th.
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Apr 24, 2022 03:43
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Qmass posted:the van of misery is really detracting from my enjoyment of slow horses How is Slow Horses? I'm torn between being a sucker for a gritty UK spy show vs. the first episode having the most insulting premise I can think of for a series premier. Does it get better or is the show pretty untethered from reality?
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Oasx posted:I am curious to know how you guys think The Night Of fell apart, I thought it was pretty consistently great, but I also found the Turturro part to be best part of the series by far, and on my latest re-watch I skipped all the prison stuff. Well the prison stuff was where the ostensible main character was so it being terrible and cliche clearly put a hamper on things. But if you'd don't retroactively lol at the crux of the show being his defense attorney banging him in his cell, and it somehow leading to his release I don't know what to tell you Some absolute amazing storytelling choices in there. That's all I remember really and close shots of incredibly disgusting toes E: looked at the wiki and wow I'm way off. Eh what can you do Shageletic fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Apr 24, 2022 |
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pentyne posted:Did it top The Killing? I peaced out after the first episode but following reactions of the show on the larger net and here was a loving delight. The escalating disappointment and then howling rise in derision was perfect.
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Shageletic posted:I peaced out after the first episode but following reactions of the show on the larger net and here was a loving delight. The escalating disappointment and then howling rise in derision was perfect. I've said it before but season 3 of The Killing is a legit great stand-alone crime drama, and it is a pity that everyone was turned off by the first two season. It was fascinating to see the SA thread turn from a mock thread into genuine admiration. Here are some goon reactions: Alan Smithee posted:So I checked the AVclub and it's all A's what the hell The Killing? Did Veena Sud get the wheel taken from her what's going on ? qbert posted:This season is by far the best of the three and quite standalone. It does feel like a completely different writing staff at times. I've been impressed with some of the story/character choices made this season. Exploder posted:I just checked Wikipedia, and it looks like it's pretty much the same writing crew, including Veena Sud. It's night and day between the Rosie Larsen debacle and this. Like I said earlier, I think the writing staff learned their lessons from the first two seasons, which is very rare in television. I can't think of another show that transformed from quite literally the worst thing on television into must-watch television within a year. Just forget the first two seasons happened, check it out, and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I just hope they don't screw up the final two episodes. Open Source Idiom posted:Oh wow, that was incredible. I had to stop watching for a while and then come back. I don't think I've been that uncomfortable with television since the ending to the first season of Homeland. Listerine posted:Yeah if you ever needed to look to a piece of fiction to convince people the death penalty is a mistake, this would be it. Sarsgaard was exceptional. Number19 posted:This season has redeemed the show in my opinion. It's no longer "watch to see how bad it is". It's really good and bordering on great. Past Tense Ragu posted:That was one of the best episodes of television ever made, in my opinion. Some show called Bar Rescue is stickied but this wasn't?
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Oasx posted:I am curious to know how you guys think The Night Of fell apart, I thought it was pretty consistently great, but I also found the Turturro part to be best part of the series by far, and on my latest re-watch I skipped all the prison stuff. I dunno, it sounds like you found it to be inconsistently great! I liked it overall, but I really hated where the prison stuff went. It just felt like it escalated so quickly, out of nowhere to the lawyer making out with the guy and smuggling drugs to him in her vagina, it just felt ugly for the sake of it. Though I did like how the resolution to the case was a total anticlimax and didn’t satisfy anyone, just hosed up a bunch of lives to no higher purpose. Turturro was a highlight, his feet were not.
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Doing a rewatch of Fringe and gently caress season 4 goes off the rails seemingly every six episodes. Like they had teams of writers that didn't concerse with each other and kept rotating them. Plot lines appear and drop and appear and drop. I know they were in danger of cancellation but it makes it painful to get through. But don't take my word for it. Take... my same post on it from literally a decade ago that I looked up to see if my attitude had changed. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3435580&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=119#post405922709
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I absolutely agree. Fringe will always have a special place I'm Mt favorite shows of all time and it's 100% down to that talented cast. Spoilers! after stepping into the machine, the universe forgets Peter. while he does eventually reenter reality, no one remembers him. this lasts for the remainder of the series with small exceptions but in the finale, Walter pulls him aside and tells him he has regained all his memories and they reconcile and hug. It's one of my favorite scenes of any media.
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This rewatch came about via a different rewatch, The X-Files, which has half aged terribly and half has aged wonderfully. Funnily the parts that have aged terribly are the exact opposite of Fringe's - The X-Files myth arc episodes are universally poor and terrible whereas their monster of the week stuff is still amazing. This has to do with the myth arc being tied directly into 90s conspiracy theory thinking and anti-government ethos. As the decades have gone on the X-Files depiction of the shadowy government hiding secrets for no reason, and conspiracy theorists being harmless stoners and innocents truth seekers, has been thoroughly debunked in every possible way and instead it comes across not only as a relic but an insulting one. The direct questions of "why are they doing this" could be answered because Big Government then, but now its just "who loving knows". Meanwhile all the episodes which are just supernatural poo poo based on fringe experiments and random poo poo, like pyrokinesis for no reason, are loving great. They don't get hung up on cover ups or the big question and avoid so much melodrama. And it's funny because The X-Files started the obsession with myth arcs that decades of TV since has followed - from Fringe to Lost to Orphan Black to Supernatural. And yet it could be jettisoned from the X-Files and the show would now be better for it.
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I miss the FX X-Files Viewer's Choice Thanksgiving Day Marathon more than anything else on TV, honestly. Just the absolute joy at seeing a curated list of awesome episodes, of course always capped off by the unquestionable best episode Bad Blood.
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Clyde Bruckman. Maybe Jose Chung.
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None of which involve the myth arc of course. Even Lost's best episode, The Constant, is myth arc through and through.
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Starting Russian Doll Season 2, am I the only one who half expected in the first episode for her to say "Oh boy" when she looked in the mirror?
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The politics of the X-Files are weird because it is from that pax americana neoliberal dreamworld where politics seemed like a settled question. There is no alternative to capitalist liberalism, and so even if the government is doing bad stuff, it’s just a bad way to go about the only task government can ever have at the end of history: to use market incentives to ensure the optimal flow of capital. Mulder is the enemy of the government but can imagine no alternative to going to work every day and buying more poo poo, paying his rent, catching the game, etc. I’m pretty sure the smoking man gets in his face a few times about how the conspiracy is doing all that evil poo poo to preserve the American way of life, a line that confuses Mulder because he agrees that the American way of life circa 1996 is worth preserving. I guess the show does get into American imperialism a bit with the repeated holocaust imagery and emphasis on nazis stolen from World War II as the origin of modern America, but there’s not really a sense of why America is an empire or what its purpose is. Flashbacks sometimes show the smoking man as a rabid anticommunist, but in the sense of this being an archaic attitude unrelated to what he does in the present. It is interesting that there’s a persistent sense that the status quo will utterly end when the aliens take over, but there’s never so much as a sentence-long description of what that will be like. Will we be slaves building war machines? Will it be genocide? Will there be terraforming? It’s just a total blank, utterly inconceivable except as the end of the only possible state of affairs.
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Lid posted:None of which involve the myth arc of course. The mytharc episodes are rarely good on their own, because the entire point is the serialized growing understanding of the conspiracy. I think with mytharc stuff that needs to be taken into account. Can I point to my favorite mytharc episode in the first two seasons as a terrific standalone episode? Probably not. But the mytharc stuff taken in totality over the course of those two seasons I completely adore because it absolutely nails that 70s political thriller All The Presidents Men vibe and is an engaging, building mystery. It's really difficult to yank one of those episodes out of its larger context.
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