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Miguel Prado posted:I found it fantastic from start to finish. It's pretty good. I enjoyed it.
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D-Pad posted:It's pretty good. I enjoyed it. Is it good for people who love Sigsmund, hate him, or both?
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von Metternich posted:Is it good for people who love Sigsmund, hate him, or both? If you love him yes, if you hate him I guess it would depend on why you hate him. The basic premise is similar to the Luther novel in that it's the main character relating a series of stories as a way to show something he believes in. In Sigismund it's a remembrancer interviewing him shortly before the heresy starts wanting to know why he believes the imperium will always be at war eternal because at the time he really stood out as one of the only people who believed that as most thought the crusade was coming to an end and humanity would enter a new golden age. If you like the Fists or want to see where the Black Templars beliefs stem from you'll like it. I particularly liked it because I really loved his portrayal in Warhawk and how between him and Keeler we saw the beginnings of the imperium as we know it today blossom as a reaction to the horror of the siege of the palace. This book basically shows why he was primed to react the way he did and become who we saw in Warhawk.
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I love reading unnerving Ecclesiarchy stuff like vat-grown cherubs flapping useless wings while hovering on anti-grav units. The Beast Arises #10 introduces a "page boy" who has a run down, worn look because he's actually a middle-aged man who from a young age was chemically blocked from undergoing puberty and "the death of innocence" and I was like woah crazy until I remembered the existence of castrati.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I love reading unnerving Ecclesiarchy stuff like vat-grown cherubs flapping useless wings while hovering on anti-grav units. The Beast Arises #10 introduces a "page boy" who has a run down, worn look because he's actually a middle-aged man who from a young age was chemically blocked from undergoing puberty and "the death of innocence" and I was like woah crazy until I remembered the existence of castrati. I think some of the best Ecclesiarchy weirdness like that was in the first of the Shia Calpurnia books, from way way back in the day where all of the BL authors leaned in hard to that stuff. It always disappointed me that Matthew Farrer wrote those and then did nothing for them for like 15 years. I saw his name on the two Urdesh Gaunts Ghosts spin-off books (which were way better than I was expecting) and was very surprised.
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Apr 24, 2022 12:45
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From what I remember he also worked on the expansion book for Dark Heresy that focused on the Arbites.
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One of these days I'm finally gonna tick off the Calpurnia books from the list.
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Apr 24, 2022 14:53
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I should get back to those. I remember enjoying the first one, even if it was a little dull in places.
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I recently picked up most of the Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader source books used just for the lore and there is soooo much interesting stuff in them. I hope they add them to the vault soon. If you get a chance to get any of them for cheap do it they are fun reads.
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D-Pad posted:I recently picked up most of the Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader source books used just for the lore and there is soooo much interesting stuff in them. I hope they add them to the vault soon. If you get a chance to get any of them for cheap do it they are fun reads. I like how the TTS Custodes look was actually canon.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/24/sunday-preview-head-out-on-the-highway-with-necromunda-ash-wastes Turns out I was wrong and the Infantry Manual is just a reprinted Primer/Munitorium Manual collection. Which I'm both happy and disappointed over. Otoh, the Huron Blackheart book goes up for pre-order next weekend.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/24/sunday-preview-head-out-on-the-highway-with-necromunda-ash-wastes These drop at like 11AM EST right?
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Waroduce posted:These drop at like 11AM EST right? 12:55 EST is when the website gets updated and is when I hit the refresh button
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Yup, 12:55-1 PM on Saturday is the time to start refreshing the site.
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Count Thrashula posted:12:55 EST is when the website gets updated and is when I hit the refresh button Ah good I was wondering why there wasn’t an order link with the update.
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https://www.cbc.ca/radiointeractives/docproject/warhammer-40k Just thought I'd share this because I found it interesting and outsider perspectives are entertaining. Not every day I see CBC news publishing an article on 40K and the community's issue with right wing nutjobs.
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I have just finished Ahriman: Exile and found it meh Do I bother with the rest?
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notaspy posted:I have just finished Ahriman: Exile and found it meh I loved them all tbh but I also enjoy the character and the wolves chasing him.
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Ahriman: Sorcerer is nice. Ahriman: Unchanged has some high points, but it's mostly just...decent. I have not read the others.
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Which is the one where Ahriman fights a time traveling Necron?
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Finally something new for Sigmar https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/27/who-is-worthy-of-the-godsbane-find-out-in-dale-lucas-new-black-library-novel
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Well consider me surprised at this. Now they just need to announce like six more.
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Did anyone ever post any proof of all the AoS authors leaving? Someone said something along those lines a while back.
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The only one that left was Reynolds but that was long time ago. If I had to guess, I think it might just be that aos part of BL has 0 management and no road map and stuff is put out in haphazard fashion or hanging in some kind of publishing limbo.
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i repeat my amazement at black library or at least the 40k bit always getting poo poo out on time. how do they do that? what the hell? is there an article or something talking with this? what pact with chaos did kyme and the others intone to get this to happen?
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.cbc.ca/radiointeractives/docproject/warhammer-40k
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bob dobbs is dead posted:i repeat my amazement at black library or at least the 40k bit always getting poo poo out on time. how do they do that? what the hell? is there an article or something talking with this? what pact with chaos did kyme and the others intone to get this to happen? They only announce poo poo when they have it pretty much ready to go is the key I think. Look at varied length between SoT books. I might be wrong though!
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ed balls balls man posted:They only announce poo poo when they have it pretty much ready to go is the key I think. Look at varied length between SoT books. I might be wrong though! That's pretty much it. They get things done, then announce a date.
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Covermeinsunshine posted:The only one that left was Reynolds but that was long time ago. If I had to guess, I think it might just be that aos part of BL has 0 management and no road map and stuff is put out in haphazard fashion or hanging in some kind of publishing limbo. There's also no AoS-equivalent to the Horus Heresy or Dawn of Fire to push things along AFAICT
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Improbable Lobster posted:There's also no AoS-equivalent to the Horus Heresy or Dawn of Fire to push things along AFAICT Is there even any method of progress in the AoS setting? I've not really paid attention to the backstory but the impression I get from the outside is that it's some kind of end-of-history spacetime limbo set up by the gods to produce skirmishes forever without any prospect of decisive military victory. Roller Coast Guard fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Apr 28, 2022 |
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Roller Coast Guard posted:Is there even any method of progress in the AoS setting? I've not really paid attention to the backstory but the impression I get from the outside is that it's some kind of end-of-history spacetime limbo set up by the gods to produce skirmishes forever without any prospect of decisive military victory. Basically yes, they tried (are trying?) to basically have Sigmar or Chaos or Nagash do a big push everyonce in a awhile but because it's a grab bag setting where they basically decided that every fantasy trope is now a faction with their own cities or whatever it's kinda hard to give a poo poo. Honestly it's like they already hit that one point 40k was in until just recently where people just stopped giving a poo poo because everyone knew the story/plot would never move forward. Except it's worse because since it's a relatively new setting people don't have the investment. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Apr 28, 2022 |
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Roller Coast Guard posted:Is there even any method of progress in the AoS setting? I've not really paid attention to the backstory but the impression I get from the outside is that it's some kind of end-of-history spacetime limbo set up by the gods to produce skirmishes forever without any prospect of decisive military victory. Nah AoS actually has storyline progression marked with editions and supplements (how much time passes between events is kinda vague tho). It goes like this 1ed Realmgate Wars where gods of order try to wrest control of the realms from chaos - this ends with forces of order reestablishing cities and kingdoms across the place (firestorm campaign). This leads to Malign Portents and Second edition when some time latter Nagash tries to genocide everyone (again) and gets foiled by skaven (again) in an event known as Necroquake. This leads to events of Forbidden Power, when it turns out necroquake unearthed Sigmars Secret Silos storing artifacts and beings of mass destruction. In those events, the city of Lethis is destroyed and Orpheon Katakros (one of nagashes mortharchs) is fred. Katakros leads the assault on Varanspire (big bad evil place) and manages to establish the foothold there - this was in Wrath of Everchosen (also Archaon is just bad at his job). Second edition ends with 4 supplements called Broken Realms with lead to a number of earlier established tables getting flipped (morathi becomes the godess, few stormhosts wiped out, Chamon wrecked, Excelsis wrecked, Slannesh gives birth to twins). This all leads to 3rd edition
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There is far more plot progression in AoS than in 40k because AoS isn't a huge relic built upon years and years upon cruft. And the moment you shift a piece too much you'll be having angry nerds breathing down your neck. And the same could be said for Warhammer Fantasy tbh. I mean they even had to roll back the clock with 40k because the new crusade took things too far anyway. Although I can't help but to wonder if AoS interest has been waning over the past year considering the slow release schedule of new books and such. Then again, considering how 40k is diving right into atrocious balance while AoS has remained fairly tight there might be a swing around at some point.
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I still think the Indomitus Crusade was originally going to be an AoS style reboot that got cancelled last muinute.
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Well when the Void Dragon erupts from the core of Mars and the Mechanicus all pledge fealty to it you'll have your answer.
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Plot progression in AoS is also easy because AoS is planar fantasy. You can do virtually anything on high magic planar fantasy, because it has no boundaries like “continents” or “planets”. It’s also why narrative stakes are difficult on planar fantasy unless it’s within a set defined area or personal stories. Say the realm of death expands and suddenly the realm of fire is at risk! Oh no! But plot twist actually next week the realm of fire expands! That’s very different to nation A v nation B or similar. Structurally different, narratives without boundaries or stakes.
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Hello again, thread! I've realized after finishing Black Legion 2 that I just really like Chaos stuff, but I've noticed that there's a few themes that keep coming up in ADB's rendition of Chaos, most notably that none of the CSM actually like the Chaos Gods. Even the Word Bearers in The First Heretic seemed put off by the nature of Chaos, and shrugged their shoulders and said, "well, the gods are real, even if we don't like them". Lorgar's crowning moment in that book is even declaring that he serves the gods, but he won't be slaves to them. This made a lot of sense with the Night Lords, who are pretty anti-Chaos even if they cynically see it as a useful tool to smash the Imperium. With the Black Legion, it kiiiiinda makes sense, in that Abaddon not wanting to be bound to any of the gods has always been part of his characterization, the focus is more on a kind of traitor marine solidarity and supremacist ideology (the Imperium is ours, we're gonna come back and take it, and also vengeance) and its all told from Khayon's point of view, so his perspective on Warp shenanigans colors the narrative. But in general, I feel like the gods get a bad rap. Even their champions don't seem to like them. I was wondering if anyone had a recommendation where Chaos itself is given a positive spin, or the gods come across better -- even if they're horrible psychic blobs of pure evil? Alternatively, if there's a writer other than ADB who does a good job with Chaos. Otherwise, I'll just keep going with polishing off the series I have going on. Also Assassinorium Kingmaker is kinda mid so far. There's a comic edge to it that I don't think works as well here as it fit in the Infinite and the Divine, but I like the idea of assassins playing politics, so imma keep at it.
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IIRC Lords of Silence had more of the vibe you're looking for, but now that I'm thinking about it I'm not so sure. It was better than the first Black Legion book at least.
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Lords If silence is very good yeah . It’s kind of a marvel movie in how there is a main story focused on about 10 … sort of people but a lot of the book also moves the meta story forward and flash backs with lore important characters Lots of body horror !! 
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